Autopsy Groundhog day averted! Swans defeat Cats by 30 infront of a packed SCG

[Ticky009]

i was talking generally, not specifically about sunday, although using the grundy thing as an example ... he has always been reluctant to offer any praise or credit to teams that beat his

Yep, Scott has always been that way. Faint praise for the opposition and never acknowledges a weakness.

 

[Bandicoot]

Damn …
Imagine if we had drafted Caleb Serong and kept Jordan Dawson.

There wouldn't be room for them all. Not drafting Serong is the one that really disappoints me. He made it quite clear before the draft that he was hoping to be drafted to Sydney, who he barracked for. At a time when the risk of players wanting to go "home" is always prevalent to interstate clubs, I thought Serong was a no brainer. Obviously our recruiting gurus thought otherwise.

 

[SM]

There wouldn't be room for them all. Not drafting Serong is the one that really disappoints me. He made it quite clear before the draft that he was hoping to be drafted to Sydney, who he barracked for. At a time when the risk of players wanting to go "home" is always prevalent to interstate clubs, I thought Serong was a no brainer. Obviously our recruiting gurus thought otherwise.

Funnily just had this conversation with a mate at the pub tonight who didn't realise Serong barracked for us. Look at the top 30 players drafted in 2019, it's unbelievable how poorly we drafted that year outside Chad.

 

[Bandicoot]

I'm wondering whether our Game Day thread was as calm and relaxed as the live audience on Sunday?

Seems to me that the confidence and composure our boys are showing on a weekly basis has spread into the supporters. Without doubt it is helped by the fact that dropping the game made no difference to our standing atop the league, but I've been to games where we have been three goals up and you can feel the tension... not last week even at 6 goals down.

When Joelly kicked the first, it was like "Okay here we go".... Hayward walks one thru that was payback for some crap umpiring in Q1. Chaddy doing Chaddy things gets the adrenaline going and then Heeney goes BANG, BANG, off goes the roof of the stadium, Cat's fans resign to the inevitable, and the all-of-Sydney Swans love in kicks into full gear.

I had hoped for a 10-12 goal thumping to completely demoralise them, but to allow them to get their hopes up and then contemptuously dismiss them was equally satisfying.

Thought the cues went in the rack when JJ put us 4 goals up 4mins into the fourth. That cool heads responded, not just competently but emphatically, when the Cats sniffed a comeback late on, a further sign of how this team has developed so completely.

In seasons past it would not have surprised to drop any of the following: Opening round, the reigning premiers, a post-bye vs the Weagles in Woop Woop, the hyped-up Blues and a derby, a dangerous pre-bye, and a testing post-bye. There will be another coat of polish added after giving up a 6 goal start on Sunday.

Equally satisfying for me was Chris Scott's delusional take on the game and his insistence that they are strongly positioned for the run home. Will relish watching him starve himself while servings of humble pie are on offer.

I'm too invested in watching the game to be worried about reading comments about it.

 

[Kiama Chris]

There wouldn't be room for them all. Not drafting Serong is the one that really disappoints me. He made it quite clear before the draft that he was hoping to be drafted to Sydney, who he barracked for. At a time when the risk of players wanting to go "home" is always prevalent to interstate clubs, I thought Serong was a no brainer. Obviously our recruiting gurus thought otherwise.

KB has admitted not drafting Serong is probably his greatest regret.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Pretty tough words there keyboard warrior DeathlyAccurate . I live in Sydney, watch virtually every match and made an observation on a player in your side.

If your ego feels better to chip me and name call like you have on this board, I think it’s says plenty about your personality. You are the polar opposite of my many Swans friends, who incidentally agree with my thoughts on how McDonald is playing 4 years into his career.

Wow great. You can leave now.


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[SBD Gonzalez]

I'm too invested in watching the game to be worried about reading comments about it.

I don’t know how Kingy does it. Presumably holds the phone with his feet.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Wow great. You can leave now.


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Super gracious.

 

[The King!]

I don’t know how Kingy does it. Presumably holds the phone with his feet.

I find it watching us makes me nervous/tense. I know that sounds silly. But quickly letting it all out just helps me relax. Just punch it on my phone basically while I watch .

 

[the hypnotoad]

To be fair, I was suffering from PTSD in the first quarter after the 2022 AFL Grand Final

you're not alone, i think most of us are still suffering a bit from that
fortunately, the players might now have put their trauma behind them

 

[the hypnotoad]

He vanished

he did indeed ... but players like stengle really only look good when their team is firing, they're not going to carry the team on down days ... to be fair, the position hardly allows for that

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Super gracious.

Do I have a reason to be?

Not really interested in the "well thought out" discussion from someone who trolls us on other boards and yet wants to be mature here.

Keep falling for it, though.


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[TheGoatBaron]

you're not alone, i think most of us are still suffering a bit from that
fortunately, the players might now have put their trauma behind them

Let’s hope so if they make it this year.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

I don’t know how Kingy does it. Presumably holds the phone with his feet.

I use Bigfooty on my pc. The first TV is mostly used as a PC monitor unless I want to watch another of my team that’s playing at the same time as the football like it was on Friday night

 

[the hypnotoad]

He makes rookie errors even though he’s got a few years experience. I can recall 2 pretty bad mistakes in the second half. Handballing it Lloyd who when he had no pressure on him, they both ballsed up a certain inside 50. Then the kick out of defence over the head of a swans teammate trying to get him to run onto it when there’s a Cat 10m ahead of the teammate. Result a Cats mark and goal. Do you see him breaking the lines from the back much? Does he do what Mcinerniery or Blakey do? And when he does the subsequent kick its 50:50 to our advantage. He doesn’t lack effort or toughness though.
Defensively his pace to catch opposition ball carriers but he’s like a dog to a ball. Ball carrier can just show him the ball then step away and lose him when he’s chasing.

yes!!

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I find it watching us makes me nervous/tense. I know that sounds silly. But quickly letting it all out just helps me relax. Just punch it on my phone basically while I watch .

Yeah me too, but with the nervous tension and my fat fingers (and a bit of alcohol) most of my replies jevsjbw cksben adm wkdnem.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Yeah me too, but with the nervous tension and my fat fingers (and a bit of alcohol) most of my replies jevsjbw cksben adm wkdnem.

you're quoting brian taylor!?!

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

HTB rule for AFL is like the scrum rules in NFL. There is just no simple way to adjudicate it. The NRL decided to dump all rules as a response and do ‘play’ scrums instead.

The HTB will always be subjective and as a result, will be vulnerable to cognitive bias. We just have to play better so the umps don’t get a chance to sway the result.

I understand there is a level of subjectivity, but most of the problems come from the AFL trying to interpret the rule the make the game faster, rather than just interpret the rule.

It started around 2016-17 when you could see Longmire becoming ncreasingly confused and frustrated by how the game was being officiated.

It killed killed players like Kennedy, who rightfully when they had no prior just to wrestle their arms free to dispose correctly, and then were suddenly being told that they took too long or incorrectly disposed - while bulldogs players who would just pretend to drop the ball (in their team’s favour) would get off Scott free.

The AFL loves it because the game is faster now and crowds and audiences are up. This makes me a minority, but I used to like it when tension would build before goals and your team had to really earn it. You don’t get the Nick Davis game today. You don’t get the final against Port Adelaide where Hall rucked on the wing for several minutes, stoppage after stoppage, to wind down the clock for an unbelievably tense win. You don’t get the Eagles rivalry.

The holding the ball adjudication should actually be very simple to adjudicate.

Did the player have prior? If so, did they dispose correctly? If not, ball. NB: dropping the ball is not correct disposal!

If they didn’t have prior, did they TRY to dispose of the ball correctly? If so, play on (even if incorrect disposals). NB: deliberately dropping the ball is not trying to dispose the ball correctly.

And if they want to make it simpler still, count a tackler knocking the ball out is incorrect disposal when the player with the ball has prior.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Titus O'Reily:

"The 65-point turnaround was sparked by Chad Warner

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1.5

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and Isaac Heeney

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Isaac Heeney

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28

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88kg

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, who might be the greatest combination since Gin and Tonic."

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

you're quoting brian taylor!?!

You know you've had one drink too many when BT starts making perfect sense.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Do I have a reason to be?

Not really interested in the "well thought out" discussion from someone who trolls us on other boards and yet wants to be mature here.

Keep falling for it, though.


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I have to say Deathly I thought you were being a bit harsh, but I don't read any other boards apart from this one so I had no idea there's issues with him elsewhere. Apologies.

 

[Kirkswan]

We let Miers play his natural game in the first quarter should of clamped him down better.

We also panicked as the pressure from both sides was over 200.

Plenty still to work on.

Sorry, but there was no panic... we didn't play well, didn't cope well with Geelong's pressure, didn't get the umpire calls (in fact, both umpires and players seemed a bit confused in the first), but there was no panic. I don't know about anyone else, but at the ground, even when we down by 30, I never felt the boys weren't in it... I was just waiting for them to click! Their first quarters have been iffy, but I don't think they've lost a second quarter all year...

The spectators may have been panicking, but the players weren't!


(PS. Isn't panicking a weird word, only has a 'k' in extensions!)

 

[Swan4Life]

Melicans maturity is massive.

Not sure maturity has ever been an issue with Lewy.

His issues have always been - for me at least - closing speed and/or ability to go with his opponent on a lead + injury/fitness.

Those with a good memory will tell you that in 2017 (when we started 0-6) that he was brilliant that season.

He has always been a bloody good defender - he just needs to stay on the park.

 

[Tesla Tenet]

Melican is physically fast, however was mentally slow in reading the play or reaction to his players lead.

So much better now and really dependable and occasionally does a beautiful short kick into the F50.

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[Kiama Chris]

Not sure maturity has ever been an issue with Lewy.

His issues have always been - for me at least - closing speed and/or ability to go with his opponent on a lead + injury/fitness.

Those with a good memory will tell you that in 2017 (when we started 0-6) that he was brilliant that season.

He has always been a bloody good defender - he just needs to stay on the park.

What looks like closing speed was, I think, reaction time and anticipation. He is one of the quickest guys in the club. The rest 100%. Great to see him doing so well.
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