Autopsy Groundhog day averted! Swans defeat Cats by 30 infront of a packed SCG

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Fantastic win and a great crowd too we are close to the hottest ticket in town as we play good footy.

Only thing I will say and please don't take this as a negative...

We can't keep giving sides 4+ goal starts eventually it will come back to bite us. I'll give them an out this week as it's after a bye and we were flat to start. However, next week against the Crows away we CANNOT give them a big lead. Us starting better is so important going forward.

Grundy should be the AA ruck.
 
Heeney2Franklin said:
Really from all the advantages your club enjoys spare me
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So a disgruntled Geelong supporter says "Switch the colours of the academy players today and the margin probably flips." the reply from Heeny2Franklin was spot on. Geelong have been exempt from the salary cap with all the rorting being carried out by their sponsor CottonOn but that's ok. Unlike them, everything we have done in recruiting is within the laws of the game.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Fantastic win and a great crowd too we are close to the hottest ticket in town as we play good footy.

Only thing I will say and please don't take this as a negative...

We can't keep giving sides 4+ goal starts eventually it will come back to bite us. I'll give them an out this week as it's after a bye and we were flat to start. However, next week against the Crows away we CANNOT give them a big lead. Us starting better is so important going forward.

Grundy should be the AA ruck.
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As I mentioned before, we lost 50% of first quarters last year. By coincidence we've also lost 50% of first quarters this year. Yet our win/loss ratio has changed enormously. Our Q1 win/loss seems to have f_all corrolation with winnig or losing a game.

I suggests to me that teams who get a break on us in Q1 are putting in too much pressure to do so.
High pressure ratings demand hard running, chasing and tackling. When teams go out too hard in Q1, they can't sustain the pace over the duration of the game. It's like they're running a 10k pace for the first quarter of a marathon. They can't sustain it. A marathon is won by the runner who finds the highest pace they can sustain for the entire race. Accurate pacing is so important that multiple pacers are often used to help a runner reach a new PB or break a record. Roger Bannister used several such pacers to break the four-minute mile for the first time.

Footy is also an endurance sport. As a very fit team we can set a higher pace (sustain a higher level of pressure) for the better part of two hours than other teams can. That's a big part of how we win. Last year we didn't have the fitness. We'd try to beat teams with pressure then we'd fade late when we couldn't sustain it.

If we focus too much on winning first quarters we risk overdoing it. We should play at the best pace we can sustain, knowing we will haul any team in eventually.
 

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LukeParkerno1 said:
Fantastic win and a great crowd too we are close to the hottest ticket in town as we play good footy.

Only thing I will say and please don't take this as a negative...

We can't keep giving sides 4+ goal starts eventually it will come back to bite us. I'll give them an out this week as it's after a bye and we were flat to start. However, next week against the Crows away we CANNOT give them a big lead. Us starting better is so important going forward.

Grundy should be the AA ruck.
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Think Gawn is head and shoulders above, but Grundy could make the bench.
 
RubbaDuck said:
As I mentioned before, we lost 50% of first quarters last year. By coincidence we've also lost 50% of first quarters this year. Yet our win/loss ratio has changed enormously. Our Q1 win/loss seems to have f_all corrolation with winnig or losing a game.

I suggests to me that teams who get a break on us in Q1 are putting in too much pressure to do so.
High pressure ratings demand hard running, chasing and tackling. When teams go out too hard in Q1, they can't sustain the pace over the duration of the game. It's like they're running a 10k pace for the first quarter of a marathon. They can't sustain it. A marathon is won by the runner who finds the highest pace they can sustain for the entire race. Accurate pacing is so important that multiple pacers are often used to help a runner reach a new PB or break a record. Roger Bannister used several such pacers to break the four-minute mile for the first time.

Footy is also an endurance sport. As a very fit team we can set a higher pace (sustain a higher level of pressure) for the better part of two hours than other teams can. That's a big part of how we win. Last year we didn't have the fitness. We'd try to beat teams with pressure then we'd fade late when we couldn't sustain it.

If we focus too much on winning first quarters we risk overdoing it. We should play at the best pace we can sustain, knowing we will haul any team in eventually.
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I generally agree with you BUT (isn't there always one of those?) I hope that the team is looking at ways to blunt opposition fast starts without burning ourselves out. Perhaps an extra behind centre? A different setup at stoppage? Different CBA? I think Horse said as much in his presser.
 
RubbaDuck said:
As I mentioned before, we lost 50% of first quarters last year. By coincidence we've also lost 50% of first quarters this year. Yet our win/loss ratio has changed enormously. Our Q1 win/loss seems to have f_all corrolation with winnig or losing a game.

I suggests to me that teams who get a break on us in Q1 are putting in too much pressure to do so.
High pressure ratings demand hard running, chasing and tackling. When teams go out too hard in Q1, they can't sustain the pace over the duration of the game. It's like they're running a 10k pace for the first quarter of a marathon. They can't sustain it. A marathon is won by the runner who finds the highest pace they can sustain for the entire race. Accurate pacing is so important that multiple pacers are often used to help a runner reach a new PB or break a record. Roger Bannister used several such pacers to break the four-minute mile for the first time.

Footy is also an endurance sport. As a very fit team we can set a higher pace (sustain a higher level of pressure) for the better part of two hours than other teams can. That's a big part of how we win. Last year we didn't have the fitness. We'd try to beat teams with pressure then we'd fade late when we couldn't sustain it.

If we focus too much on winning first quarters we risk overdoing it. We should play at the best pace we can sustain, knowing we will haul any team in eventually.
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Fine unless we get to a final & get “2022 GF’ed” in Q1.

Pressure tends to be up for longer in finals.

We need to cope.
 

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Coaches votes:

Sydney v Geelong​

9 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
8 Errol Gulden (SYD)
7 Chad Warner (SYD)
3 Tom Papley (SYD)
2 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
1 Jeremy Cameron (GEEL)

5-4
3-5
4-3
2-1
0-2
1-0

Total
80 Isaac Heeney SYD
67 Nick Daicos COLL
59 Caleb Serong FRE
55 Chad Warner SYD
53 Marcus Bontempelli WB
51 Zach Merrett ESS
50 Max Gawn MELB
49 Patrick Cripps CARL
48 Errol Gulden SYD
46 Sam Walsh CARL
45 Noah Anderson GCFC
45 Jordan Dawson ADEL
45 Matt Rowell GCFC
 
Cameron?

Maybe I was watching a different game, he was awful. Thought Holmes was Geelong's best by a distance. Couple of junk goals late for Cameron shouldn't change that.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Cameron?

Maybe I was watching a different game, he was awful. Thought Holmes was Geelong's best by a distance. Couple of junk goals late for Cameron shouldn't change that.
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Cameron was quite good late forward. Stengle was good early. Stanley is Geelong's perpetual whipping boy so Scott didn't want to give Grundy any credit for pantsing him over 3 quarters, otherwise he'd look bad for the selection.
 
Millky95 said:
Coaches votes:

Sydney v Geelong​

9 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
8 Errol Gulden (SYD)
7 Chad Warner (SYD)
3 Tom Papley (SYD)
2 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
1 Jeremy Cameron (GEEL)

5-4
3-5
4-3
2-1
0-2
1-0

Total
80 Isaac Heeney SYD
67 Nick Daicos COLL
59 Caleb Serong FRE
55 Chad Warner SYD
53 Marcus Bontempelli WB
51 Zach Merrett ESS
50 Max Gawn MELB
49 Patrick Cripps CARL
48 Errol Gulden SYD
46 Sam Walsh CARL
45 Noah Anderson GCFC
45 Jordan Dawson ADEL
45 Matt Rowell GCFC
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These votes scream "Let's get one of our boys the AFLCA award this year" to me.
 
A few other observations I had:

1. Blakey starting on the wing and spending large portions of the first and second term there. Makes me wonder if he went into the game carrying something so we wanted to maybe manage him a little bit in-game. We know he was subbed off eventually as well.

2. For all the talk about our star mids getting us back into the game, I actually think we were already back into the game by the time they started firing. It was a handful of fierce tackles that won us HTB calls (which were ironically ignored in the first quarter) that led to the Amartey & Hayward goals in quick succession. That's when the game opened up and our mids started to go bonkers.

3. Roberts to me looked a little slow. And not in a laconic, casual sort of way, but actually slow. Rigid in his movements and even just getting up off the turf seemed to take him a while. Maybe there was more to his "managed" break than we knew.
 
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kneecapper said:
Cameron was quite good late forward. Stengle was good early. Stanley is Geelong's perpetual whipping boy so Scott didn't want to give Grundy any credit for pantsing him over 3 quarters, otherwise he'd look bad for the selection.
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The game was over when Cameron actually did anything. Stengle was the Cats best forward and Holmes probably the only Cat that won his position apart from Stengle.
 
momentbymoment said:
Yeah I get what the Pool Room is.
But how do you take the game there?


Oh.
The TV is there.
I get it …

Slow day :sick:
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Its a quote straight from The Castle. Everything he thought was marvelous went 'straight into the pool room."
 
By the way I found that part in the 2nd quarter where Horse said the crowd was getting up and and about but he looked at the scoreboard and we still a fair bit behind.

Heeney's goal we've now kicked 4 and we're still down 29-41 but you can feel the energy of the crowd and then after his next one the Sydney chant went up.
 
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caesar88 said:
1. Blakey starting on the wing and spending large portions of the first and second term there. Makes me wonder if he went into the game carrying something so we wanted to maybe manage him a little bit in-game. We know he was subbed off eventually as well.
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I think Blakey was manning up on Cameron who they put on the wing
 
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