Guess the attendance v Brisbane Lions

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So you're assuming not all of our 11-game members will show up, no 3-game members will show up, no stadium members will show up, no casuals will show up, and no opposition fans will show up? Ok then.

Classic Macca.

Given all the data we have it would be great to see some analysis of attendance vs membership, even in total.
 
There will be a bunch of casual supporters that won't be interested in going twice in 3 weeks, but there will also be those that missed out on the showdown that may want to get there. It is pretty hard to tell if the 50k to the showdown was the "novelty" factors of the first showdown, first game of the year, and first time seeing Adelaide oval or whether people are just that excited. Going off Hawthorn's crowds, I'd say people love to jump on the bandwagon pretty hard and we will get a great crowd.

My over-under would be 38,000 and my guess is 42,781.

On another note, my old man was telling me the other day about how half of AAMI stadiums seats were for members of the stadium itself, which were bought up by crows supporters, which massively affected showdown crowds so that Port home games were 50% Port Adelaide supporters at best. Can anyone tell me how true this is, and whether it would have affected other games at the ground - ie. was our maximum capacity actually 40,000 or there abouts given many tickets weren't available to anyone but AAMI stadium members? At the MCG for example I'd guess that 20,000 seats aren't available to anyone but MCC members.
 
So you're assuming not all of our 11-game members will show up, no 3-game members will show up, no stadium members will show up, no casuals will show up, and no opposition fans will show up? Ok then.

Well its the great unknown isnt it. I'm assuming as its a Saturday afternoon game which we all know is by far our worst timeslot, that a fair proportion of our members, 3 game members, casuals, stadium members, wont be able to make it due to sport or work reasons, just like every other year we've been in the competition and they wouldnt be chosing a game against Brisbane as a cant-miss match (despite the 04 celebrations).

So given this, and given that our Saturday arvo games last year saw us average 21,045, with a peak of 25k against Richmond when we were flying, I dont see how me picking a 30% increase on those figures is understating it by all that much. If it was a Saturday night or twilight game i'd be thinking 35k.

If we can get over 30k to a Sat arvo game against a low drawing team then that is an awesome sign.
 
Well its the great unknown isnt it. I'm assuming as its a Saturday afternoon game which we all know is by far our worst timeslot, that a fair proportion of our members, 3 game members, casuals, stadium members, wont be able to make it due to sport or work reasons, just like every other year we've been in the competition and they wouldnt be chosing a game against Brisbane as a cant-miss match (despite the 04 celebrations).

So given this, and given that our Saturday arvo games last year saw us average 21,045, with a peak of 25k against Richmond when we were flying, I dont see how me picking a 30% increase on those figures is understating it by all that much. If it was a Saturday night or twilight game i'd be thinking 35k.

If we can get over 30k to a Sat arvo game against a low drawing team then that is an awesome sign.


Saturday arvo's in the CBD are an entirely different kettle of fish than Saturday arvo's in the boonies.
 

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There will be a bunch of casual supporters that won't be interested in going twice in 3 weeks, but there will also be those that missed out on the showdown that may want to get there. It is pretty hard to tell if the 50k to the showdown was the "novelty" factors of the first showdown, first game of the year, and first time seeing Adelaide oval or whether people are just that excited. Going off Hawthorn's crowds, I'd say people love to jump on the bandwagon pretty hard and we will get a great crowd.

My over-under would be 38,000 and my guess is 42,781.

On another note, my old man was telling me the other day about how half of AAMI stadiums seats were for members of the stadium itself, which were bought up by crows supporters, which massively affected showdown crowds so that Port home games were 50% Port Adelaide supporters at best. Can anyone tell me how true this is, and whether it would have affected other games at the ground - ie. was our maximum capacity actually 40,000 or there abouts given many tickets weren't available to anyone but AAMI stadium members? At the MCG for example I'd guess that 20,000 seats aren't available to anyone but MCC members.
1997

32747 Essendon Sunday
32074 Geelong Saturday
47256 Crows home game showdown
31757 Brisbane Sunday
36090 Richmond Sunday
32958 Melbourne Friday
40116 Carlton Friday
35669 Sydney Saturday
30826 Fremantle Saturday
37790 Collingwod Saturday
45498 Adelaide Sunday
38589 St Kilda Sunday

In 1998 every game dropped between 3-20%. despite finishing 9th in the first season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Adelaide_Football_Club#Membership_and_attendance

As soon as we dropped to 14th our crowds dropped from 35k to 26k.
3rd 31k
1st 30.5k
1st 32k
1st 30k (2004)
2005 33K

As you can see there is a definite novelty period, even after winning a premiership we couldn't garner the same support as the first season.

However memberships from 1997 to 2012 were mostly ± 4000. 2013; the year of rebirth has seen the largest increase in memberships at our club.

Overall its hard to say how many we will get to games, because we have more members today. I reckon in a good season you should be able to average 80-85% of your membership for average attendances, but in the inaugural year we got 100%.

people may also be unterestimating the city factor. There would have been a point, where at AAMI people would have decided not to bother going because of the traffic/location etc.
Should be interesting.
 
Depends if the scanners are working right. Didn't look like 3,100 people missing to me.


Lol, got to the ground early on Sat. Well before the gates opened. Looked at the lineup at the southern entrance and thought I'm in the Western Stand (Essential Power) wonder if there is another entrance I can enter thru'. Wandered westwards, through some opened gates thinking there will be some scanners/line-up up ahead, before you now it we were in the back of the western stand. Was about 15 min before the ground opened. Asked a couple of 'officials' where we could scan our membership cards to which they pretty much shrugged and said dont worry about it, you can sit anywhere except the red seats.
We nonchalantly wandered all thru the Western stand, picked our seats and settled in. A security guard approached us at about 1.28 and said sorry, we gotta kick you out for a minute or so as the ground hasnt officially opened. Can you please go and line up next the the northern most side of the Western Stand and wait for the siren to blast away. Myself and my entourage walked over to where quite a few others were also lined up (100 or so people) and all of them had a similar experience, no scanning. Siren blew a minute later, we wandered back over to our preferred spots ( 5 or 6 rows just below the Port coaching box, and settled in. I had about 12 people with me and normally I'd get everyone's card and shoot out and re-enter scanning everyone's card. But I got distracted by the bar and got beers and that was the end of that idea. But definitely would have been at least 200 people there that were in the Western Stand that hadn't been scanned in.
 
But check this out

Geelong

Fremantle

Hawthorn

Then we finish with

essendon

Carlton

Excellent draw for crowds. If we can win all games up to geelong, win 1 out of the next three, win the games we should, Crowd numbers will average over 40k
 
Lol, got to the ground early on Sat. Well before the gates opened. Looked at the lineup at the southern entrance and thought I'm in the Western Stand (Essential Power) wonder if there is another entrance I can enter thru'. Wandered westwards, through some opened gates thinking there will be some scanners/line-up up ahead, before you now it we were in the back of the western stand. Was about 15 min before the ground opened. Asked a couple of 'officials' where we could scan our membership cards to which they pretty much shrugged and said dont worry about it, you can sit anywhere except the red seats.
We nonchalantly wandered all thru the Western stand, picked our seats and settled in. A security guard approached us at about 1.28 and said sorry, we gotta kick you out for a minute or so as the ground hasnt officially opened. Can you please go and line up next the the northern most side of the Western Stand and wait for the siren to blast away. Myself and my entourage walked over to where quite a few others were also lined up (100 or so people) and all of them had a similar experience, no scanning. Siren blew a minute later, we wandered back over to our preferred spots ( 5 or 6 rows just below the Port coaching box, and settled in. I had about 12 people with me and normally I'd get everyone's card and shoot out and re-enter scanning everyone's card. But I got distracted by the bar and got beers and that was the end of that idea. But definitely would have been at least 200 people there that were in the Western Stand that hadn't been scanned in.

Send that story with a headline "crowd figure is false" to 5aa. I have no doubt they will go on about 3,000 people not turning up as will their callers.

Email On Air: onair@fiveaa.com.au
 
At least 3. I will be there, and I know 2 others from Melb that will also be there... So 3 is better than 0.

I think though that we should be targeting for 40k or there abouts given the occasion.
 

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