Gumby to Freo

[Zach Package]

I would because I believe he will be a great player and he has a long term future at the club.

In the same way that we believe that gumby will be a great player and have a long term future at the club...

 

[apuchar]

Freo fans would be up in arms if we were only offering a 3rd rounder for Morabito, yet his situation is no better than Gumby's.

Gumby at least was fit for majority of last season and kicked almost two goals a game.

Morabito's 20 not 25. No where near as long a history of injury. Morabito's knee was also a complicated injury and hence his surgery was never quite right from the start.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Morabito's knee was also a complicated injury and hence his surgery was never quite right from the start.

Kinda like Gumbleton's back, then.

 

[Gumbletrain]

Of course he's worth something, otherwise the Bombers wouldn't have persisted with him.

I have no say in the clubs decisions. The club is doing a medical assessment on him now. It's risk versus reward. He has a chance to be good. Where we differ is our view of the amount of risk.

If your beamer had been rusting on blocks for the last 6 years and had no tires, windscreen, rego or brakes, I'd want my mechanic to take a long hard look at the suspension, the engine, the electronics, the sub frame and the transmission before I would even think about making an offer of $20k.Those issues can be fixed, but we'd want to make damn sure that there are no surprises when we are looking at a fixer upper.

The club will offer what they think he's worth. I'm not saying the club thinks the same as me. But I'd be disappointed if we parted with too much more than a 3rd rounder.

As I said, you don't have to make an offer. We are happy to keep him. But if you want him you may have to stump up. What I am getting sick of is Freo supporters telling us we must take whatever crappy offer you have for him. If the price is right you can have him, but if we are not getting overs for him we may as well give him another season and revisit it in a year. May come out and kick 40 goals next year which means we will get a lot more than what you are offering. We don't care either way, not desperate to sell but happy to look at it if the price is right. If you are not willing to pay overs than you won't have Gumby in the purple and pink or whatever colours you guys where over there at Fremantle now.

Your first round pick for Gumby and pick 32 sounds about right for me, anything less and we may as well try and get him right ourselves, which from all reports we have and he will complete a full preseason this year, barring any new injuries.

 

[jusjoshin]

Freo fans would be up in arms if we were only offering a 3rd rounder for Morabito, yet his situation is no better than Gumby's.

Gumby at least was fit for majority of last season and kicked almost two goals a game.

Lol, if we traded Mora now, we probably wouldn't get much more than that, and if he comes back into more injuries (as Gumby has), then we'd probably get nothing for him. So we'll bring him back as slowly as we can, and try and make sure his recovery is as smooth as we can. Some players just don't have a body that can stand up to AFL. If Morabito doesn't make it, we'll be gutted.

Just curious, but if Gumby was fit for most of the season, why did he only play 6 games? Was he not good enough to push anybody else out of your side? I wasn't following the Don's too closely, so I'm not sure why he wouldn't get a game. It just looks like he either wasn't fit enough, or wasn't good enough to displace anyone.

 

[go_the_dockers]

In the same way that we believe that gumby will be a great player and have a long term future at the club...

Then why havent you offered him a multiple year contract?

 

[apuchar]

Kinda like Gumbleton's back, then.

Except for the 5 extra years.

 

[Zach Package]

Lol, if we traded Mora now, we probably wouldn't get much more than that, and if he comes back into more injuries (as Gumby has), then we'd probably get nothing for him. So we'll bring him back as slowly as we can, and try and make sure his recovery is as smooth as we can. Some players just don't have a body that can stand up to AFL. If Morabito doesn't make it, we'll be gutted.

Just curious, but if Gumby was fit for most of the season, why did he only play 6 games? Was he not good enough to push anybody else out of your side? I wasn't following the Don's too closely, so I'm not sure why he wouldn't get a game. It just looks like he either wasn't fit enough, or wasn't good enough to displace anyone.

had back surgery when everyone else was doing pre-season.
Rehab and strength work for the early part of the year, we were very cautious and gave him a month or so in the vfl to find a bit of touch, he could have come back a week earlier than he did (everyone on here was screaming for it) but yeah, we were just a bit cautious. For me, gumby picks himself when fit, not even a question.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Lol, if we traded Mora now, we probably wouldn't get much more than that, and if he comes back into more injuries (as Gumby has), then we'd probably get nothing for him. So we'll bring him back as slowly as we can, and try and make sure his recovery is as smooth as we can. Some players just don't have a body that can stand up to AFL. If Morabito doesn't make it, we'll be gutted.

Just curious, but if Gumby was fit for most of the season, why did he only play 6 games? Was he not good enough to push anybody else out of your side?

LTI, then needed some VFL continuity to build up match fitness, complicated by the VFL's insane fixture where you had what seemed like a bye every third week, hence when he did come back out of sheer necessity (Hurley going down with a Weapons-grade hamstring) he still didn't have the fitness required, so he only really worked in fits and starts.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Except for the 5 extra years.

4.

And considering Morabito's now had 2 full seasons where he hasn't played a senior game, he's comfortably on Gumbleton pace. I hope not, as it's a waste, but the difference isn't that stark.

 

[TylerDurden]

Gumbleton for a pick in the 20's is robbery. He is still unproven. A pick in the 20's is back end of first round, and he ain't worth a first rd pick. Neither is Dawes for that matter.
If Tippett is being bandied about for pick 22, then can someone tell my why Gumbleton command a similar amount? I didn't see him kick 4 goals against Hawthorn in a Prelim final..

 

[Zach Package]

Then why havent you offered him a multiple year contract?

It's more a list managment issue for mine, we offered him 1 when there was only fleeting interest, we didn't need to offer him any more than that. I have a strong feeling that we are just waiting to see what other teams officially bring to the table, so we can then adjust our offer accordingly.

Except for the 5 extra years.

Morabito is 2 weeks short of 21, gumby is 24 now i'm not fancy big city mathematician, but....

 

[Lord Nicholson]

I didn't see him kick 4 goals against Hawthorn in a Prelim final..

Did in the regular season though.

Ah, Schoey...

1st round would be exorbitant, 2nd round would be disappointing. I'd only be happy with the club giving him up for a handy player or to someone offering a (kinda stupid) 3 year deal.

 

[Taylor]

In two years, hopefully both Gumbleton and Morabito are tearing it up for Fremantle

Is Gumbleton a restricted free agent next year?

 

[jusjoshin]

Your first round pick for Gumby and pick 32 sounds about right for me

They must have better drugs on the East Coast. Freo haven't traded a first round pick out for a long time (we were going to for Mitch Clarke, but we weren't going to sell the Farm to get him, and he made the AA 40 man squad). First round pick won't be on the table. If your club is going to hold out for a first round pick for him, I don't think he'll be going anywhere.

Are there any neutral supporters who think that Gumby as it stands is worth more than a 3rd round pick, or maybe a 2nd round pick upgrade? Genuinely interested.

If the Bombers rate him this highly, and seriously think his injury woes are over, he'd be getting a 2 year deal. The 1 year deal looks like they are getting ready to cut their losses anyway.

 

[Belnakor]

no it's not.

Delisting is when the club doesn't want a player, walking out is when a player doesn't want a club.

Couldn't be more different

makes absolutely no difference to the draft process

 

[yakka man]

This has Pre-Season draft written all over it. Happens almost every year. Player out of contract with their club not wanting to give him the contract he wants. Yet still demanding ridiculous trade compensation. And their supporter base in BF acting all high and mighty.

 

[Gumbletrain]

Gumbleton for a pick in the 20's is robbery. He is still unproven. A pick in the 20's is back end of first round, and he ain't worth a first rd pick. Neither is Dawes for that matter.
If Tippett is being bandied about for pick 22, then can someone tell my why Gumbleton command a similar amount? I didn't see him kick 4 goals against Hawthorn in a Prelim final..

Ummm... He kicked 4 goals against Hawthorn in round 18. Boom tish.

And Adelaide want a lot more than pick 22.

What did you get Gunston for - pick 24 and a few downgraded picks in the third and fourth rounds. Mate Gumby, Tippett and Dawes are worth a lot more than Spudston, who's efforts may have cost you a flag.

But at the end of the day this doesn't really concern you so why are you here?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

makes absolutely no difference to the draft process

ah... yes it does. Absolutely it does.

A delisted player becomes a free agent and can go to the club of their choice. A player who walks out must go into the draft and is at the mercy of the draft process.

Sheesh, do try and keep up!

 

[apuchar]

4.

And considering Morabito's now had 2 full seasons where he hasn't played a senior game, he's comfortably on Gumbleton pace. I hope not, as it's a waste, but the difference isn't that stark.

If Mora's second knee reco works ok, they are nowhere near on the same pace. He played most of last year in the wafl and was almost ready for selection when his knee went again.

If it happens that Gumby chooses to come to Freo (which may not happen if Malthouse is sniffing around) the clubs will work it out. I hope it is reasonable from both sides considering his potential worth but also taking into account his potential risk. You've had a good trade period. Be happy. I would be happy to take Danahir over Gumby and Goddard for free ain't bad.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Not much point getting Goddard "for free" if it forces others out. Doesn't impress me at all.

I want us to keep an Essendon player. Who happens to be our highest draft pick ever and, if Hurley is switched to defence, becomes pretty damn vital to our structure. Not an unreasonable stance, I'd argue.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

This has Pre-Season draft written all over it. Happens almost every year. Player out of contract with their club not wanting to give him the contract he wants. Yet still demanding ridiculous trade compensation. And their supporter base in BF acting all high and mighty.

High and mighty as opposed to Fremantle supporters acting pompous and arrogant... All different shades of shit.

The supporters obviously don't want him to go. If he does we don't want to get rogered with a pick we won't even use.

 

[apuchar]

It's more a list managment issue for mine, we offered him 1 when there was only fleeting interest, we didn't need to offer him any more than that. I have a strong feeling that we are just waiting to see what other teams officially bring to the table, so we can then adjust our offer accordingly.



Morabito is 2 weeks short of 21, gumby is 24 now i'm not fancy big city mathematician, but....

I did study accounting. I think they call it creative accounting.
Gumby does have a longer history of injury though doesn't he?

 

[apuchar]

High and mighty as opposed to Fremantle supporters acting pompous and arrogant... All different shades of shit.

The supporters obviously don't want him to go. If he does we don't want to get rogered with a pick we won't even use.

Don't worry about it, some Freo supporters were convinced we would get Clark in the PSD last year. We know how that worked out. Let's just see what happens when/if the clubs start talking.

 

[TylerDurden]

Did in the regular season though.

In a 92 point loss