Gumby to Freo
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Can't find a link, but it definitely happened, although it may have just been a fracture.
The good signs were...
1. got on the park (even if he didn't do anything i still would have cracked a smile)
2. looked a lot stronger through the legs and the core, hopefully that helps keep the back strong.
3. Still hasn't lost the ability to read the play and take a grab (which is most pleasing considering he hadn't played in 18 months)
4. His goal kicking has improved out of sight since the 2010 run.
Admittedly the ship on him being the superstar we thought he would become has most likely sailed, but who knows what will happen if he gets a pre season and some confidence under him, be that at essendon or elsewhere.
I thought he definitely showed good signs. Only went goal-less once. To be fair, at times he looked a long way off it as well. The thing about Gumby is, and I know it's a horrible cliche, but he does have massive upside. KPPs don't grow on trees, much less ones who are 200+ cm and very mobile.
I can understand the perspective that he's not worth much on the trade market, in a way I kind of agree, and that's why I want to keep him. But on the other hand, if you put yourself in the shoes of a list manager looking for some forward line structure, he could, could, be extremely valuable. But it's a massive gamble. List managers I think see the value of players very differently to supporters, and I would be equally unsurprised if he commanded a third round pick or a low first round
do you think essendon would offer him a multi year deal to keep him? or would they still baulk at a 2 or 3 year deal even if losing him in the PSD became a real possibility.
And I agree - I would not mind the Roos taking the punt for 3 years. If he breaks down after round 1 and never plays it is not going to cut deeply into the salary cap - he will at a budget price. If he comes good it is a massive win - my opinion is the reward is greater than the risk. Especially if Hansen walks I would think he should be seriously looked at.
I would be amazed if he went for a low first round - actually I would buy an Essendon membership and sit in the cheer squad for all home games in full Essendon attire.
But comments like he now owes the club and we have invested too much is not correct. It is wishful thinking on behalf of one eyed supporters. We are the same with Hansen - he owes, we invested, pick 3 - all rubbish.
This is a big "if".
I tend to think, if someone wants him, they will be in love with what he could/will/might be; and pay accordingly - highly.
Rather than see him as (cold hard light of day) what he is, a pretty long shot.
Can't see anyone chasing him half-heartedly.
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You would only really say that as an Essendon fan.
Sure the potential is there and it could be a massive win for someone, or alternatively it could be over and done with after one week or pre-season.
I really can't see anyone chasing him full balls to the wall because he just isn't worth someone throwing a first round pick or even possibly a second round pick away for.
Right now he is about as specualtive as someone you would draft at pick 50 in the draft cos you just don't know what your getting regardless of what medical testing you have done with him.
FWIW, fully expect him to come to terms in a week or so.
It will take a full-blooded offer for him to want to move, at least until we tell him we don't want him.
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Reports have been that we have offered him a 3 year deal, compared to your one year.
Further more with your cap squeeze i would imagine we have probably offered him a few extra $$$ as well even if it is just on a two year deal.
With his history you would think he would want some job security for two years at least.
I think we probably would but it's really hard to say given we haven't so far. I personally think there is an enormous amount of goodwill between Essendon and Gumbo, and that the club have put forward an offer knowing that he will explore his options. If something comes up and the chance to keep him is by giving him a 2 year deal I hope we'd do it, but who knows. The other side of the equation is Essendon testing the market - if something comes up that's too good to refuse, and it works for Gumbo, we'd probably go with it too.
Yeah exactly. I think that's the opinion many clubs would have.
God I'd be holding you to that if it happened!
I completely agree with you there. I've always had massive man-love for Gumbo, but I totally agree with you on the loyalty side of things. If he leaves for a better deal for him it will be with my blessing, and I'll never, ever boo him
Having said that, it's been reported today he does in fact feel loyalty to the club, and I can understand that too.
Probably right.
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theres no more of a cap squeeze than there was last year.
monfries, mcviegh, slattery out, goddard, daniher and a draft pick in. roughly equitable in salary.
if it's a money issue, a prismall or a lonergan or even hille will go before gumby is squeezed out
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Who's 200+ cm?
Gumby in high heels
So now we know how he did his back.
You may be mean spirited. But glad to know you are one of the nice guys.
I don't believe he will fail at any club - except for injuries.
Essendon fans have invested a lot of hope in Gumby, hence why most would be keen to keep him, even if he fizzles out in 24 months.
Considering it does not seem that we are going to be getting serious currency, surely the Bombers will just offer 2 years. Reports are that Gumby is keen to stay at the Bombers, so I can't see him walking if we offer the two he is after.
To compensate Freo for their lost time, and as a good will gesture, they can have Steinberg.
Considering it does not seem that we are going to be getting serious currency, surely the Bombers will just offer 2 years. Reports are that Gumby is keen to stay at the Bombers, so I can't see him walking if we offer the two he is after.
To compensate Freo for their lost time, and as a good will gesture, they can have Steinberg.
I would like Essendon to persist with Gumby till we know he has failed but if his only chance of success was for him to be traded to another club then yes I would want him to succeed at another club.
Essendon ship may have sailed, Gumby has a three year deal on the table and trip back to WA. It might be too late for them for such on offer accepted.
You can keep Steinberg.
Doubtful. If Essendon still want Gumby and offer the two years, i'd expect him to stay. He is not asking to leave, just wants two years. I think both Essendon and Gumby are testing their worth on the market, if Ess get offered stuff all, I'd imagine they will re-sign him.
How about Steinberg and a swap of second rounders?
Slattery as a Key Forward. Make it happen Lyon!
I can understand Essendon only wanting to give a 1 year contract. If he has a major injury next year, he'll probably want to chuck it in for good if he is still at the Bombers. A different club and environment might not be so tedious or feel as bad to Gumby if he's in recovery again. Relocating back home might be even better as atleast he'd have his family to support him if his woes continue.
3 years contract is a risk for Freo but only really for 1 year, as we can then discard Jack Anthony and Gumby could have the non playing KPF spot for a couple without breaking list model.
3 years contract is a risk for Freo but only really for 1 year, as we can then discard Jack Anthony and Gumby could have the non playing KPF spot for a couple without breaking list model.
Josh Kennedy didn't want to leave Carlton during the Judd deal but seems to absolutely love being home now.
Our risk is money only as long as we recruit a young KP player in the draft in case things don't work out with Gumby
Well this thread is well and truely going in circles... Anyhow here is an interesting post from Seppo- one of the dockers boards mods.
To put it bluntly unless he went to the PSD I don't want Gumby at all.
If Essendon serious about keeping him then I hope they keep him and I truely hope he is past his injuries and fulfills some of the potential he had as a junior and has a successful career with you guys, you both deserve it.
I am very much of the opinion that the dockers should trade their first round pick to get a KPF but Gumby is not the one we should be trading it for, Hansen is the player we should be gunning for.
To put it bluntly unless he went to the PSD I don't want Gumby at all.
If Essendon serious about keeping him then I hope they keep him and I truely hope he is past his injuries and fulfills some of the potential he had as a junior and has a successful career with you guys, you both deserve it.
I am very much of the opinion that the dockers should trade their first round pick to get a KPF but Gumby is not the one we should be trading it for, Hansen is the player we should be gunning for.
Freo or Melb have to weigh up the risk/reward
From what i've seen Hansen & Dawes are known quantity's, good second talls is the best you'll get.
Gumby is a risk no doubt, but the reason he's wanted at Ess is because his ceiling is unknown, could be a star, but if not, when healthy the minimum you'd get is at least as good as Hansen/Dawes.
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