List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

[Gralin]

Ned needs a muzzle or he needs to be taken to the pound.

Ok so that one went completely over your head

 

[wahawk]

Awesome post.

Yes
It had no spelling mistakes , good punctuation & well paragraphed.


They should be proud to receive my Gold Star as I just don’t hand them out willy-nilly

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I heard it was reported he had an offer from Pies but is not signed so if we offered more coin and an extra year or 2. He showed he can play forward and back

There's no way the pies would be dumb enough to let this guy go.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

You’d imagine Hendo would get another year to provide cover for Scully - particularly as he mightn’t start the season.

Hendo deserves two years.
Has been great since coming across. really hasn't put a foot wrong. Also probably our most accurate kick for goal.

Give him two years.

 

[Mitchell54]

That's because Sam Collins signed with gold coast

I know. I got it wrong.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Hey is the mid season draft a real thing?

 

[TheFourPillars]

Hendo deserves two years.
Has been great since coming across. really hasn't put a foot wrong. Also probably our most accurate kick for goal.

Give him two years.

LP no one gets a two year deal after they turn 30

 

[eldorado]

Even if he wasn't 30, I wouldn't want a 2 year deal for Henderson

Ideally, this is the year he is increasingly challenged for his spot in the 22 by younger players.

 

[grumbleguts]

Yes
It had no spelling mistakes , good punctuation & well paragraphed.


They should be proud to receive my Gold Star as I just don’t hand them out willy-nilly

What do they need to achieve to get a brown and gold star?

 

[eldorado]

What do they need to achieve to get a brown and gold star?

Quite a few Bigfooty posters certainly deserve my brown star award.

 

[grumbleguts]

Quite a few Bigfooty posters certainly deserve my brown star

SO if they paint gold stripes on it, they'd be doing everyone a favour?

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Wingard(playing between mid and forward). 28 goals
Roughead 44 goals
Gunston 48 goals
Bruest 49 goals
Poppy 22 goals
Smith 14 goals

1.3 + 2 + 2.2 + 2.2 + 1 + 0.6

= 9.3 goals a game from those 5
= 56 points

No way Rough kicks mid 40s.

 

[aussie80s]

If the club select guys on their character then this guy is no chance

I remember everyone on here wanted us to draft Kieren Collins in 2015. He had some hype on him at the time that people thought he could replace Lake. The Bulldogs were rated as draft winners when he fell to pick 26 and we had picked Burton and Lovell instead.

At 194cm and 100kg he was either not tall enough or agile enough to fill key defensive posts at the Bulldogs (although similar dimensions to Lake), but was good at reading the ball. He was delisted after managing just 1 game in 3 years, although it is never as easy for kpp to jump straight in at that age.

What is this "character" reference? I know he was involved in a car accident last season, along with Roarke Smith. I thought the Bulldogs had said that the players were not at fault but can't recall the details. Is it linked to that or is there something else?

 

[Mitchell54]

If Sam Frost struggles to get games this year at Melbourne due to Steven May then I wouldn’t mind looking at getting him in. Wouldn’t cost too much either.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Ned needs a muzzle or he needs to be taken to the pound.

Self-awareness. Look it up. And then go buy some. Everyone you know will thank you for it.

 

[wahawk]

What do they need to achieve to get a brown and gold star?

I don’t have that sort of authority

Gold stars are my limit

 

[Dewnior]

Has Townsend been delisted yet? I wouldn't mind picking up as a DLA.

 

[Dewnior]

Many of us seem to believe we paid overs for Wingard. I don't like to disrespect any Hawthorn player, past or present, so I've gone along with most people's assessment of Burton. It is only overs if Burton is as good as most of you seem to think. I really like the character of the kid and his resolve to overcome a very bad injury to play at the elite level. However, I think he is being overhyped and overrated. Please go back and watch when and where he got his possessions and marked the ball. He has not lived up to the expectations that were placed on him. He is far too slow, does not read the ball as well as you would expect and does not impact the game in any substantial way. He is a decent lock down defender on a very particular type of forward. Someone who is slow and can't jump.

He has not made an impact like a Worble (lol) or Hardwick who have made a bigger contribution in less time than him. If you look at decent players like Stratton, Sicily, Breust, Smith who were not all high picks, they made an impact and showed promise within 12-18 months. Burton was given every opportunity but could not do that. He is not worth a first pick. Do you guys think if were trading Burton for a pick we would have got a first round pick? I certainly don't think so. We paid the equivalent of a first and two seconds and got a third back. So just shy of two firsts. Is Wingard worth that? ABSOLUTELY!!!

How quickly we forget. Burton was runner-up in the Rising Star last year. He copped an injury early this year which he carried for most of the season. On top of that most players get the 2nd year blues. To say he has not live up to expectation and hasn't made an impact like Worpel is just plain BS.

 

[cyrilicious]

Try the mind altering substances. It might help you relax a bit.

Try taking ur own advice

 

[marklar]

SO if they paint gold stripes on it, they'd be doing everyone a favour?

 

[Brant]

Smith and Scully starting with Henderson as the third option coming off the bench = winning!

Smith & Hendo on the wings & Scully playing HHF role. He'll run the ground like a wingman either way, but this is a guy you want within reach of goals as well.

The beauty is that all 3x (Smitty, Hendo & Scully) love a goal & Hendo & Smitty (maybe Scully as well, not sure) can run off HB if required.

 

[becalm]

Hey mate, I don't know much about Scullys issue specifically other than it was a nasty one with a secondary setback. I believe he broke his Fibula (not too big of a deal as its not a weight bearing bone) and also injured his Syndesmosis (a big deal as it essentially joins the Tibia and Fibula together).

From what I see day to day, an elite Athlete like Scully shouldn't have too much trouble healing his injuries - particularly if the Hawks have assessed him and approved his medical. That gives me great confidence.

The huge hassle for most traumatic ankle injuries is that they become really stiff due - in part - to a need to immobilize it to help it all mesh. Ankle stiffness is a little cheeky because its potentially linked to a huge amount of other niggles - navicular issues, Achilles dysfunction, shin spints, ACLs, plantar fasciitis, cartilage issues etc. None are guaranteed of course but his risk may increase depending on how he goes. Scully is a beast so id imagine hed have no trouble getting the conditioning side of it right.

Essentially I have no idea without getting a hold of him myself, but clinically Id guess the stiffness might be a challenge. Or it may not haha. Either way they seem confident at the club!

Thanks Sven

 

[burnside5]

Can you give us a bit more info for supporters not in the know?

Yes also not sure what you mean?

I am not sure what sort of bloke Scully is off the field and the social scene and don't really care but I heard he is very professional (almost fanatical) in regards to his preparation and training so would be doing everything possible to get his ankle right.

That's probably why the Hawks took a chance even with pick 53 because a very serious injury to get right and maybe a toss of the coin.

I would also give Henderson a two year deal regardless if Scully plays or not as deserves it.

 

[eldorado]

Yes also not sure what you mean?

I am not sure what sort of bloke Scully is off the field and the social scene and don't really care but I heard he is very professional (almost fanatical) in regards to his preparation and training so would be doing everything possible to get his ankle right.

That's probably why the Hawks took a chance even with pick 53 because a very serious injury to get right and maybe a toss of the coin.

I would also give Henderson a two year deal regardless if Scully plays or not as deserves it.

It was about Kieran Collins, not Scully

 

[burnside5]

It was about Kieran Collins, not Scully

okay sorry thanks.