News Hawthorn AGM 2022

[Alite]

If Jeff Kennet truely loves the club … then he will help Andrew Gowers in every way he can

Let’s see what he does

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

If Jeff Kennet truely loves the club … then he will help Andrew Gowers in every way he can

Let’s see what he does

Can not see Kennett being graceful at all, he let him self down with his speech.

Gowers on the other hand was all class, thanking Jeff and the board for all there work done to date.

 

[Rioli2Gunstall]

I suspect it was more than just an "edging"

Dont say it don't say it don't say it don't say it

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[Alite]

Can not see Kennett being graceful at all, he let him self down with his speech.

Gowers on the other hand was all class, thanking Jeff and the board for all there work done to date.

Yes Kennet wanted a differed outcome, yes Kennet strongly advocated for a different outcome, and Yes… his preference lost out. But I do dot think (hope) he is as bad as he seemed tonight. If he is a true hawthorn man (which I think he is) he will support Andy. If he does Not, we should all turn on him..… without mercy. He has enough baggage already.
But an ungracious speech should not condemn him. Let’s see if, in the light of day, he becomes a supporter of the new look Hawthorn or a denigrator. (Jeff being Jeff will always say how he thought it should have been different…)
I’ll be the first to pile onto him if he takes pot shots from the outer. But until he does, he deserves time to make his choice on whether he is a Hawthorn man or a man who wants control of the Hawthorn FC And damned be the rest of us.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Hoping Maria Lui takes the open board position. Was widely supported by both camps, she’s both a lawyer and an accountant and an extremely impressive candidate.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Yes Kennet wanted a differed outcome, yes Kennet strongly advocated for a different outcome, and Yes… his preference lost out. But I do dot think (hope) he is a bad loser. If he is a true hawthorn man he will support Andy. If he does Not, we should all turn on him..… without mercy. He has enough baggage already.
But an ungracious speech should not condemn him. Let’s see if, in the light of day, he becomes a supporter of the new look Hawthorn or a denigrator.
I’ll be the first to pile onto him if he takes pot shots from the outer. But until he does, he deserves time to make his choice on whether he is a Hawthorn man or a man who wants control of the Hawthorn FC And damned be the rest of us.

I think Kennett will be supportive in time, needs to lick his wounds first.

Really should take a break for 12 months an then return to offer his support.

 

[Alite]

I think Kennett will be supportive in time, needs to lick his wounds first.

Really should take a break for 12 months an then return to offer his support.

Thank you CatpainW. A moderate thought with a considerate outlook. Good on you.

Another side: if Jeff Kennet became an enemy of the Hawks out of spite… how much damage could he do?

I am glad that we have a fundamentally changed club from the players to the coaches to the management.

If the Hawks are to become a powerhouse of the comp post 2025 then we need Renewal in every part of the club.

And If the old part of the club truely ever cared then , like a father, they will still help when not in control.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Thank you CatpainW. A moderate thought with a considerate outlook. Good on you.

Another side: if Jeff Kennet became an enemy of the Hawks out of spite… how much damage could he do?

I am glad that we have a fundamentally changed club from the players to the coaches to the management.

If the Hawks are to become a powerhouse of the comp post 2025 then we need Renewal in every part of the club.

And If the old part of the club truely ever cared then , like a father, they will still help when not in control.

No disrespect to past players, coaches and board members, how ever it was time for change on and off field. They all did an amazing job, but time catches us all.

I love our new on field and off field set up. An Bec Goddard what a crack up, strait foreward, Honest, full of energy and a touch of humour, i get why our AFLW had a streak of wins. A bresth of fresh air....

An i love Bec and Sams banta and working relationship.

At training there opposition to each other, to get the best out of each other as coaches an their teams.

Come game day they are one, the Hawks V the World. I am so bloody excited with how this new chapter is unfolding. There will be bumps, there will be highs and lows, but were all on the page all working together to develop and reach premiership glory.

 

[flinchfree]

I'd like to see Conan brought on to the board.
Not just a Hawthorn man but been involved in the game continuously since his playing days, and I personally would love more player representation.
Would be an incredible representative of the Club.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Kennett is a piece of s**t.

A true narcissist sees every rejection as an entirely unjust personal attack.

Kennett was not likely to be gracious.

More confusing to me are the people who are somehow drawn to the personality type, rather than embarrassed for them and repulsed.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Loving Jeff's comment about the $25M now being slavishly used by his sycophants on the socials. Like any miserable partisan clown (this goes for any partisan hack by the way), the nuance always escapes them. All Gowers said was that the Time to Fly foundation was, based on information provided to Gowers, underfunded by $10M. He didn't say he was going to secure said funding - merely that distaste for Jeff had kept it out of the coffers and it was another issue with the club's governance. Kennett himself admitted he cost the club $15M. But yeah - hang the $25M instantly on Gowers before he's even started his first day.

So accurate.

Jeff is embarrassing to watch, always has amazed me that he has no short supply of non thinkers to affirm his nonsense.

Partisan hacks of any persuasion need to GTFO of everywhere, especially our footy club.

 

[Alite]

A true narcissist sees every rejection as an entirely unjust personal attack.

Kennett was not likely to be gracious.

More confusing to me are the people who are somehow drawn to the personality type, rather than embarrassed for them and repulsed.

Toomany …. Kennett is not a full narcissist. He believe in what he says and cares when it does not work out.

 

[Dewnior]

Vanders has resigned.

I reckon he saw the writing on the wall and chose to fall on his sword. Wouldn't have survived next year's re-election.

Who's left on the board that has the credentials to be footy director? If they need to be brought in from outside then I can't see Liu being the answer.

 

[Flukey!]

Vanders has resigned.

Does that mean no more member wine specials?
A case of his extra fruity chablis would have been a hit this time of year.

 

[hawker11]

What a sour and awkward event…from outward petulance demonstrated by Board members to ugly remarks shouted from the floor. It did not need to play out that way and I wish Gowers the best as you cannot doubt his passion.

 

[peetoo]

Surely the applicant with the next highest vote takes the vacancy

 

[Blackhawk42]

Does that mean no more member wine specials?
A case of his extra fruity chablis would have been a hit this time of year.

Hopefully somebody new can move us into the craft beer space instead.

 

[dermott]

I imagine Vandenberg’s resignation post election will be deemed a casual vacancy and allow the board to appoint someone rather hold another election. If so, the choice will be fascinating. Will it be a “football” director, a lawyer, Maria Lui, Ed Sill or someone from left field.
For what it is worth having a lawyer on the board means they bring that skill set to their deliberations but they will still use a law firm to do any legal work that is required. In many cases the director will also be a partner in that firm.
I am not suggesting anything wrong with that, but merely to point out that having a lawyer on the board does not mean he or she personally does all the club’s legal work.
My bet is that a “ balanced “ board will have a senior lawyer in it’s ranks.

 

[BobHawk]

I don't think we should kid ourselves believing that Kennett will just go away or even support Gowers now. He will use the media to keep himself relevant (as he has done all his life) and will take pot shots at Gowers and individuals at the club at every opportunity. Also keep in mind that he has strong legacy support within the club and monied up members. There may need to be a bit of a clean out at the club. It is unfortunate but that is the stench of Jeff Kennett wherever he goes.

 

[Mississippi]

Surely the applicant with the next highest vote takes the vacancy

No. Footy boards have been seconding directors onto the board, without going to elections, since Moses wore short pants.

They will most definitely invite someone who they regard as fit for purpose. It could even be Nankivell (although I doubt it).

 

[peetoo]

No. Footy boards have been seconding directors onto the board, without going to elections, since Moses wore short pants.

They will most definitely invite someone who they regard as fit for purpose. It could even be Nankivell (although I doubt it).

Nank is well embedded in the dingley thing. That’s the downside here. I’d be ok with that. He stated he would be a transition president anyway

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Yes Kennet wanted a differed outcome, yes Kennet strongly advocated for a different outcome, and Yes… his preference lost out. But I do dot think (hope) he is as bad as he seemed tonight. If he is a true hawthorn man (which I think he is) he will support Andy. If he does Not, we should all turn on him..… without mercy. He has enough baggage already.
But an ungracious speech should not condemn him. Let’s see if, in the light of day, he becomes a supporter of the new look Hawthorn or a denigrator. (Jeff being Jeff will always say how he thought it should have been different…)
I’ll be the first to pile onto him if he takes pot shots from the outer. But until he does, he deserves time to make his choice on whether he is a Hawthorn man or a man who wants control of the Hawthorn FC And damned be the rest of us.

It’s actually hilarious to me that we have answers to all these questions as evidenced by his past behavior, and what we’ve seen him do both inside and outside of the club but you’re still asking “How will the real Jeff Kennett act now that he didn’t get his way?”

We know already.

His behavior last night was cringeworthy, and it was true to form.

 

[KermitJagger]

I don't think we should kid ourselves believing that Kennett will just go away or even support Gowers now. He will use the media to keep himself relevant (as he has done all his life) and will take pot shots at Gowers and individuals at the club at every opportunity. Also keep in mind that he has strong legacy support within the club and monied up members. There may need to be a bit of a clean out at the club. It is unfortunate but that is the stench of Jeff Kennett wherever he goes.

Honestly, as someone who spent a while being a Jeff centrist, I couldn't care less about what he says or does outside of the club as the chances of it having any real impact is minimal. I'd love to see the voting numbers because I don't think that legacy support is as strong as it would have been at the end of his last tenure. Hell, I hinge further to the right side of the political spectrum and voted for Gowers and even Merlino.

Were I in his electorate during his political career there's no way I'd have voted Merlino but, like me, I don't think there'd be many who would care if he does what Jeff couldn't and leave the politics at the door while using his connections to secure funding and good relationships. As for the rusted on Jeff fans, I don't understand how they still exist, but on field and off field success is going to be the sugar to help that medicine go down.

 

[StillAtLarge]

Does that mean no more member wine specials?
A case of his extra fruity chablis would have been a hit this time of year.

I have it on good authority that Vandenberg + alcohol is a terrible combination

 

[MrPremiership]

That was such a poor end from Kennett. Couldn't have been worse.

The Board needs to unite. It's a big job for Gowers from here.

Vanders going is disappointing, but if he is a petulant little campaigner, it's probably for the best. I'd like to see Lui or Sill get up.