News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wrong. Hawks did what they had to do by the rules of the AFL.

Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.

I will pin this post, as it seems to be a constant query.

 

[kazzooka]

Uncorroborated statements.

Compared to all the documentation Hawthorn is now presenting in court.

Which holds more weight ?

Yes, and it's up to the court to decide if allegations are true. Courts have the power to get that documentation

The journalist is NOT reporting that events in the allegations occurred. They are reporting that allegations have been made.

It is 100% undeniable fact that the allegations were made to the club in the Egan report, to the journalist and they have continued to peruse it in mediation and in federal court.

It is absolutely in the public interest to report that serious allegations are being made.

Also while it looks like Hawthorn have provided some evidence to counter some of the allegations. Some have been admitted to like Clarkson saying "why do they all have darker skin than you", Birchalls comments and others.

There are many responses from Hawthorn that are simply "the club denies this" or "does not know"

What we've seen from the statement of claim and response, are both very biased accounts of events and this is months and months later with 100s of hours of work done by both sides to prepare their arguments and much of what is alleged or denied is still without proof.

They still need to go to court to test the claims in the original claim and test Hawthorns response.

 

[unitedhawk]

it’s at the fed court and people still complaining about the ABC

I sometimes wonder if we have some Murdoch Media muppets infiltrating this thread.

 

[Harper_Hawk]

I sometimes wonder if we have some Murdoch Media muppets infiltrating this thread.

I have thought that myself on a number of occasions reading this thread.


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[DogDaySonny]

I have thought that myself on a number of occasions reading this thread.


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And here I thought the thread was full of ABC NPCs.

 

[Harper_Hawk]

And here I thought the thread was full of ABC NPCs.

No media alignment here. Never will be. Question everybody and anything including those so called legal eagles in the forum. Only positive from this saga is that ALL player and staff welfare in the organisation moving forward will hopefully be front and center when communicating. Not PC but with empathy.


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[Suntory Boss Coffee]

No media alignment here. Never will be. Question everybody and anything including those so called legal eagles in the forum. Only positive from this saga is that ALL player and staff welfare in the organisation moving forward will hopefully be front and center when communicating. Not PC but with empathy.


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Just follow your ABCs when reading any news tbh.
Assume nothing Believe nothing Check everything

 

[seysearles]

Not PC but with empathy.

I like this way of putting it. There should always be a place for empathy but at the same time one can not allow emotional blackmail. Dancing that line is tricky but is what needs to be done by all parties. It also means not flinching when the inevitable insults are flung in your direction. This seems to be where clubs struggle because the label of “racist” seems so toxic and has been weaponised. We really have to move past that dynamic but as you say do so with a fair and empathic mindset. Not easy.

 

[hawkinoz]

Has this been posted here, Well done to Roughy for showing the Hawks way to a younger team mate

 

[Randy Campbell]

Has this been posted here, Well done to Roughy for showing the Hawks way to a younger team mate

There's nothing you can do that can't be done
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung
Nothing you can say, but you can learn how to play the game
It's easy

Nothing you can make that can't be made
No one you can save that can't be saved
Nothing you can do, but you can learn how to be you in time
It's easy

Nothing you can know that isn't known
Nothing you can see that isn't shown
There's nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be, it's easy

All you need is Rough
All you need is Rough
All you need is Rough, Rough
Rough is all you need.