News Hawthorn Racism Scandal

[Handyandy]

lol clarko is never coaching again

Fagan shouldn’t be either

 

[gbear]

So in summary great job AFL but now we're off to get some dollars.

This statement clearly says alot about you and your intellect.

 

[Handyandy]

The goal of most civil litigation isn't to go to trial though, it's to settle before trial. Ben Roberts-Smith ran into a bunch of people who just said 'nah screw you, we're going to go to court and prove this'. It's possible the ABC just reach a financial settlement to quietly make it all go away.

You are dreaming if you think the abc will give them one red penny. Dreaming

 

[MrPower]

So in summary great job AFL but now we're off to get some dollars.

What sort of alternative universe do you live in?

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

AFL and the Vic boys club: we would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for that pesky WADA Human Rights Commission.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Gill really tried to sweep this under the rug and quit

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

When you threaten to name your victims and their families but they go and out themselves.

 

[Handyandy]

I predicted this on the main board. Afl will try their best to sweep it under the carpet but it’s too big a mess and will get taken to a higher court/ authority

 

[Handyandy]

Hahaha 2 days to reply before an incoming missile destroys your otherwise happy your life.

It’s more notice than the players got when Clarkson and co knocked on their door for a surprise, unsolicited meeting. I really hate when people drop in at my house without notice

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

AFL and the Vic boys club: we would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for that pesky WADA Human Rights Commission.

How NBA handles racism: actively kicks someone out no matter what status of (search Donald Sterling)

AFL: Burries the incident and actively helps a club hire the accused

 

[davesnothere]

What I don't get is the AFL statement during the week that came across as the most delusional case of obvious denial I think I have ever seen?

The Rioli situation at Hawthorn now being beyond just Kennet now makes a bit more sense. It's not just 1 boofhead who everyone thought was a joke anyway.

 

[Phar Ted]

Not at all, there is no money in this for them. There is potentially a lot of grief for the AFL and Hawthorn, but no big payday for the complainants. It is clearly about them wanting to be heard. Taking away the dash for cash element, makes it even more powerful.

If they get proven to be correct they will rightfully be compensated very well. Whatever happens it's going to be a very long process with no real winners at the end of the day.

7.1 Section 46PO(4) of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 (Cth)​

Section 46PO(4) of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 (Cth) ('HREOC Act') provides:

If the court concerned is satisfied that there has been unlawful discrimination by any respondent, the court may make such orders (including a declaration of right) as it thinks fit, including any of the following orders or any order to a similar effect:

1. an order declaring that the respondent has committed unlawful discrimination and directing the respondent not to repeat or continue such unlawful discrimination;
2. an order requiring a respondent to perform any reasonable act or course of conduct to redress any loss or damage suffered by an applicant;
3. an order requiring a respondent to employ or re-employ an applicant;
4. an order requiring a respondent to pay to an applicant damages by way of compensation for any loss or damage suffered because of the conduct of the respondent;
5. an order requiring a respondent to vary the termination of a contract or agreement to redress any loss or damage suffered by an applicant;
6. an order declaring that it would be inappropriate for any further action to be taken in the matter.

 

[Handyandy]

What I don't get is the AFL statement during the week that came across as the most delusional case of obvious denial I think I have ever seen?

The Rioli situation at Hawthorn now being beyond just Kennet now makes a bit more sense. It's not just 1 boofhead who everyone thought was a joke anyway.

It’s called institutionalised racism

 

[Jimmy95]

The coaches will say they were trying to help the indigenous players get the most out of their football career. The indigenous players will say you caused us immense hurt and pain.

Who's most culpable here? The Hawthorn Football Club for not having adequate support for its indigenous players.

 

[PowerBaz]

So I still wonder if you had nothing to hide - literally, wouldn’t you have had a chat to your accusers?

 

[Handyandy]

Given his role at our club, I would love to hear Shaun Burgoynes take on all this

 

[Handyandy]

So I still wonder if you had nothing to hide - literally, wouldn’t you have had a chat to your accusers?

Supposition

 

[Powertron]

How NBA handles racism: actively kicks someone out no matter what status of (search Donald Sterling)

AFL: Burries the incident and actively helps a club hire the accused

Hmmm Sterlings racism was well known for decades in the NBA, it was only the audio tapes being leaked to TMZ that got the NBA to take action. Same with Danny Ferry’s firing from Atlanta (leaks to the press forced them to take action).

The NBA only makes a stand when it hurts their bottom line and/or when the players force their hand.

The difference here is even when it is leaked the AFL still stuff it up.

 

[Handyandy]

The coaches will say they were trying to help the indigenous players get the most out of their football career. The indigenous players will say you caused us immense hurt and pain.

Who's most culpable here? The Hawthorn Football Club for not having adequate support for its indigenous players.

Interesting.
Or is the afl responsible? as per the 7-eleven argument.
Or the individuals?
Generally you go after the one with the most $$$
But this feels different

 

[sobrave]

What sort of alternative universe do you live in?

This is the guy who was complaining last week about the AFL being "woke" during reconciliation week.

 

[OneGreatClub]

A hell of a lot more disastrous for Hawthorn, who knows what they told the AFL. If this was my club I would hand in my membership.

Did any Crow hand in their membership with the Walker scandal? Or with the Camp scandal? Nup. Members nearly always back their own club.

 

[OneGreatClub]

This is the guy who was complaining last week about the AFL being "woke" during reconciliation week.

So there’s the usual pattern.

 

[Flash of power]

If they get proven to be correct they will rightfully be compensated very well. Whatever happens it's going to be a very long process with no real winners at the end of the day.

7.1 Section 46PO(4) of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 (Cth)​

Section 46PO(4) of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 (Cth) ('HREOC Act') provides:

What do you call compensated very well? the average award payment is less than $20k not exactly a cash grab IMHO. And even then they consider the financial loss of the applicant, i can't see how Cyril Rioli will be flying that flag, the others might, and good luck to them that is probably the least they deserve. But do you think $20k is a massive cash grab for what they will endure??

 

[Flash of power]

Did any Crow hand in their membership with the Walker scandal? Or with the Camp scandal? Nup. Members nearly always back their own club.

Maybe you are right, but I wasn't talking about others, I was only speaking for me.

 

[Flash of power]

Given his role at our club, I would love to hear Shaun Burgoynes take on all this

He has already come out and stated he was aware of nothing. doesn't mean it didn't happen, just he was unaware.