How has Brisbane and Leppitsch escaped scruitny?

[Scotland]

There are rational, measured reasons why people aren't expecting much from Brisbane right now but at the end of the day there's wayyy more mileage in sticking the boots into Richmond and Collingwood - which is why they are the ones the media are hunting. Even Port Adelaide aren't that interesting.

 

[Roylion]

Should expectations be low for a coach coming into his 3rd year at the helm after taking over a mid ladder side?

Why not.

1. Youngest list in the competition in 2016.
2. There's been a significant rebuild over 2014 and 2015. Brisbane have made 34 changes to the playing list since the end of 2013. A few have been forced, the majority deliberate. There's still work to do at both ends of the ground. Need at least one established KPD to replace Clarke and Merrett and preferably an established KPF.

 

[OniAu]

He's tactically inept so not sure why he escapes the heat. Seems to be good at motivating the players to work hard and give effort though.

Such great motivation like the time he strangled a player up against the wall in the ressies

So brave

 

[Scotland]

I'd like to see a bit more from Brisbane (like yesterday, which I didn't see) but I'd also like to see their best team play more often.

Last year they had Redden (17 games, now gone), Beams (16), Rockliff (16), Hanley (11) plus other less knowns missing games. Teams like Brisbane can't cover that.

 

[getgaff]

Been mentioned a few times but it helps being based in QLD and not Victoria.

Ross Lieon not based in Victoria either, but hasn't escaped that critcism because he is a seasoned coach with arguably more at his disposal and his team happens to be anchored to the bottom where as the Lions aren't

 

[dlanod]

Should expectations be low for a coach coming into his 3rd year at the helm after taking over a mid ladder side?

Have a look at our list in 2013. Most of those guys are out of football now. We may have been a "mid ladder side", but we were never heading up the ladder. Eighteen guys from 2013 are no longer in football at all, so we're not even counting the likes of Adcock, Leuenberger, Yeo, Longer, Docherty, Crisp, Redden and Polec who are playing for other clubs. Leppa basically sold the club on a tear down rebuild, and that's what's happening.

 

[Hollow Knight]

He hasn't escaped scrutiny. He was under the blowtorch big time last year.

That said, the pressure has dropped because his contract was extended and we have shown genuine improvement this year despite a horror early fixture and the youngest list in the comp. If you don't see that, you haven't been watching.

 

[gavaniacono]

For all of the bluster about Lyon, Hardwick, Buckley and even Hinkley in terms of their performance as coaches, surely Leppa needs to be grouped in the group too.

Brisbane's performances, yesterday notwithstanding, haven't exactly set the world on fire with Leppa at the helm. In fact, I would hazard a guess that his winning percentage would be incredibly low.

Budget vs actual.
Expectation vs result.
It's all in the negative variance.

 

[vide0n]

Expectations aren't high

From what I've seen they almost always look like they're giving their all - I can't recall a time where a coach has been sacked when people feel that this is consistently the case

 

[gavaniacono]

Because journalists are afraid if they criticise Leppitsch he'll come round to their house and put a brick through their window.

Noones visited me for years. A brick through window would be most welcome. A Molotov cocktail would also suffice.

 

[lionshine]

I think the OP looked at the results and thought to himself "wtf! the lions are 1-5 why isn't leppa gettin some heat??" Without actually looking at our fixture and watching us play. We have definitely improved this year and despite being the youngest team in the comp we have competed well against some quality, experienced sides. The scoreboard doesn't do our games against the Eagles and North justice and obviously we were 1 more goal away from beating the Swans and we put in an impressive performance that lead to a win against the Suns who were 3-0 and full of confidence at the time. Leppitsch has the playing group in his corner and he is leading them on the right path. Simples.

 

[calyam]

Leppa has won 24 per cent of his games as coach (12 out of 50), the 7th lowest win percentage among coaches with 50 games or more experience. So the statistics obviously aren't great.

Nevertheless, coaches should be judged against expectations. If Clarkson was coaching Carlton there is a fair chance they would still be a bottom dweller but Clarkson would be the same quality coach. In this case the argument is simply that Leppa is doing sufficiently well given the players he has to work with; whether that is a fair assessment is an entirely different manner.

 

[Mr Mister]

**** off. If anything, we are playing under our talent level. We have Beams (top 20 in the league), Rockliff (All Australian), Stephan Martin (All Australian), Hanley (arguably an elite player) Rich (Elite on a good day) and yet we have only won 5 games in the past 28 or so games.

Deluded. You have the youngest list in the league and have been plundered by opposition recruiters for the past five seasons. You also gave up far too much for injury prone Beams who wasn't a priority in the first place.

Unless the league intervenes, Brisbane won't be anywhere the top 8 for many years to come. It's a harsh reality, at least you're playing some attractive footy this year.

 

[Pugz89]

- the turnover of players we have had since the end of 2013 is enormous.
- unlike other clubs, we also had to overhaul our off-field stuff just to get it to a passable standard.
- injuries, whilst not an absolute excuse are a reality when in 2015 we literally had a few players on our list available to play in the reserves. Gives you an idea as to the extent of injuries.
- this year we have the youngest list in the comp.
- this year we have been given one of if not the toughest draws, especially to start the season.

Leppa hasn't been perfect but assessing his performance as coach is, I guess, relative to where you think we should be at. Where do you think Brisbane should be on the ladder or just generally at the moment?

I don't get why Lyon is under pressure when you consider the context of his list and what he's trying to do.

Ross is under pressure, due to his inability to play kids until now. They were on the edge as it was, playing kids over the previous year or two could have minimised the damage, but he's waiting until they've gone over the cliff to play them. Also most people just hate his dour defensive style tbh.

 

[Kwality]

For all of the bluster about Lyon, Hardwick, Buckley and even Hinkley in terms of their performance as coaches, surely Leppa needs to be grouped in the group too.

Brisbane's performances, yesterday notwithstanding, haven't exactly set the world on fire with Leppa at the helm. In fact, I would hazard a guess that his winning percentage would be incredibly low.

What are you asking, the Melbourne media talking about Melbourne clubs?

 

[Kwality]

Ross is under pressure, due to his inability to play kids until now. They were on the edge as it was, playing kids over the previous year or two could have minimised the damage, but he's waiting until they've gone over the cliff to play them. Also most people just hate his dour defensive style tbh.

Pressure you reckon, from who? No one that's credible that's who. Who do listen to that represent pressure, arrant nonsense !!

 

[Kwality]

Such great motivation like the time he strangled a player up against the wall in the ressies

So brave

Got 3 x premiership medals suggests bravery is in his DNA. Now look at Bucks .... is he cut out for coaching?

 

[BRAB]

Such great motivation like the time he strangled a player up against the wall in the ressies

So brave

we've upgraded to "strangled" now...

In 6 months it'll be choke slammed, 12, decapitated.

 

[Pugz89]

Pressure you reckon, from who? No one that's credible that's who. Who do listen to that represent pressure, arrant nonsense !!

Not blowtorch pressure but there was pressure on him given this was definitely his last trip to the well with this group. Pressure to try and eek out that flag.

 

[Heaps of fun]

I don't see how Leppitsch is supposed to keep up with the rest of the competition when nearly all of Brisbane's high draft picks have walked out on him. They're perpetually rebuilding until the club can put a stop to this.

 

[Heaps of fun]

**** off. If anything, we are playing under our talent level. We have Beams (top 20 in the league), Rockliff (All Australian), Stephan Martin (All Australian), Hanley (arguably an elite player) Rich (Elite on a good day) and yet we have only won 5 games in the past 28 or so games.

What year did Stefan Martin win his All Australian in?

 

[Kwality]

Not blowtorch pressure but there was pressure on him given this was definitely his last trip to the well with this group. Pressure to try and eek out that flag.

What rubbish, he is just getting on with it. Realists not optimists.

 

[cotter101]

For all of the bluster about Lyon, Hardwick, Buckley and even Hinkley in terms of their performance as coaches, surely Leppa needs to be grouped in the group too.

Brisbane's performances, yesterday notwithstanding, haven't exactly set the world on fire with Leppa at the helm. In fact, I would hazard a guess that his winning percentage would be incredibly low.

We're a bloody young side. Leppa is safe for this year.

We've shown some signs, just haven't been able to compete for 4 qtrs and our goal accuracy has killed us early in games. Were still missing Green, Paparone, Beams and Cutler yesterday.

His game plan is interesting as has taken a while for the players to even come close to implementing it. They are getting there though. Think we'll improve a lot in the second half of the year.

We've had a pretty tough fixture so far this year too. We've played North(1st), Dogs(2nd), Swans(3rd), West Coast(6th) in Perth and then our only win against Gold Coast who are 10th.

Last couple of years we've been ravaged by injuries too. Hell Rocky and Beams, our two best players either haven't played this year or been injured. Rockliff played forward pretty well all this year apart from the Swans game and missed all pre season. A young side with poor depth can't cover those sort of losses yet.

Plus the departures recently of Yeo, Docherty, Polec, Longer and Redden. Puts a big hole in our list age brackets.

 

[dlanod]

I don't see how Leppitsch is supposed to keep up with the rest of the competition when nearly all of Brisbane's high draft picks have walked out on him. They're perpetually rebuilding until the club can put a stop to this.

Aish is obvious but it's not like there's been any other "high draft pick" walkouts on Leppa. Redden wasn't a high draft pick but you'll probably find most of Brisbane wishing him best of luck elsewhere as he hadn't seemed like he was going beyond a solid second stringer at Brisbane compared to Hanley, Beams and Rocky.

 

[lionshine]

We're a bloody young side. Leppa is safe for this year.

We've shown some signs, just haven't been able to compete for 4 qtrs and our goal accuracy has killed us early in games. Were still missing Green, Paparone, Beams and Cutler yesterday.

His game plan is interesting as has taken a while for the players to even come close to implementing it. They are getting there though. Think we'll improve a lot in the second half of the year.

We've had a pretty tough fixture so far this year too. We've played North(1st), Dogs(2nd), Swans(3rd), West Coast(6th) in Perth and then our only win against Gold Coast who are 10th.

Last couple of years we've been ravaged by injuries too. Hell Rocky and Beams, our two best players either haven't played this year or been injured. Rockliff played forward pretty well all this year apart from the Swans game and missed all pre season. A young side with poor depth can't cover those sort of losses yet.

Plus the departures recently of Yeo, Docherty, Polec, Longer and Redden. Puts a big hole in our list age brackets.

You missed the 4th placed Cats when listing our opponents