Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 6

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Pfizer tried to fu** us over. They are a ruthless company and by all accounts, difficult to deal with.

Given how complacent and easy going Australians are ( you know, the “she’ll be right” attitude), do you honestly believe Australians would have reached over 80% double vaccination by the end of 2021 if we had ample vaccination from Day 1? Very few countries achieved that. UK hovered around 65-70% for ages. USA was less. And as we know, even with high vaccination rates Covid can still infiltrate
1000000 in the first month as promised would have given us some pretty good headway - plus vaccinated all the vulnerable and their carers before winter and Delta though.
 

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I think I did explain it.

Umm-- I don't think you did, you're just making a claim that's got no evidence or rationale behind it.

Are you of the view we’d have exceeded 90% in Victoria if there had been ample doses from the outset?

Yes.

Because at the start of Lockdown #4, #5 & #6 lead to an increased uptake of vaccinations within the older community. Unfortunately the vaccine was only available to those aged 40+.

If we had sufficient vaccine supply in May we would have seen a higher uptake during those three occasions and would have sat at 60-70% in May rather than the last week of September. Half of the Australian population was denied a vaccine for most of winter because of lack of supply.

I don’t and as eddiesmith pointed out you only have to look at how slow QLD and WA were in their take up rates

But QLD and WA have had different experiences with the pandemic than Victoria did. We would have still faced lockdowns even if we were vaccinated.

Victoria didn't reach COVID zero from Delta, we vaccinated our way out. So the 'stragglers' that only did it because of mandates, etc would have been required in August rather than October and Victoria would have had less time in lockdown.

Vaccination ended lockdown.
 
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you could leave aswell, dont let the door hit your arse on the way out

Why am I always suspicious of someone who joins BigFooty to post almost exclusively about politics :thumbsu:
 
you can talk your all over this forum with your 13,000 posts, do you have any hobbies bet not

Let’s have a bet?

If I have more posts in another sub-forum than the SRP board, then you have to nuke your BigFooty account.

I’ve got hobbies outside of correcting fools like you. Remember Victoria does NOT have half the population of NSW, no matter how many times you say it.
 
your most likely correct, i dare say they are just waiting to pounce on any little thing i say, cant have too many posters who don't go along with the group think
I think once they work out yours is an alt troll account you will be toast
 

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Let’s have a bet?

If I have more posts in another sub-forum than the SRP board, then you have to nuke your BigFooty account.

I’ve got hobbies outside of correcting fools like you. Remember Victoria does NOT have half the population of NSW, no matter how many times you say it.
champ i am actually a football person , i have been to 100's of richmond games over the years and many local footy games, i bet quite a few of the posters here wouldnt know a football from a soccer ball.
 
champ i am actually a football person , i have been to 100's of richmond games over the years and many local footy games, i bet quite a few of the posters here wouldnt know a football from a soccer ball.

Oh no-- I've been "champed" :$

Anyone who's a "football person" doesn't join BigFooty in December & post almost exclusively in the SRP board unless you're an alt account, have previously had an account deleted by Chief or a straight up troll.
 
Oh no-- I've been "champed" :$

Anyone who's a "football person" doesn't join BigFooty in December & post almost exclusively in the SRP board unless you're an alt account, have previously had an account deleted by Chief or a straight up troll.
Mr. Football has only 1 football-related post 😂
 
No surprises with my ratings, or maybe there are?

For handling pandemic - 2/10
For leadership - 6.5/10
For melts - 7/10 ( not enough melts)
For cult following - 9.5/10
For embracing social media- 10/10
For likeability - 2/10
For sincerity - 4/10
For transparency - 3/10
For fashion sense - 7/10
To many ratings i give your review 3 stars
champ i am actually a football person , i have been to 100's of richmond games over the years and many local footy games, i bet quite a few of the posters here wouldnt know a football from a soccer ball.
The soccer ball is the round orange one yeah?
 
jakey jakey jakey I've already asked you about not embarrassing our name so this time can you please listen?

Was held up for about 20 mins at Latrobe & Swanston St today while the crybabies had a bit of a tantrum in the street - quite a few children which is a shame to see so many cooked parents

One point they were chanting "Sack Dan Andrews" so I asked them "Then what?? The virus disappears??"

They didn't answer that specific question I think they were too busy making sure they didn't trip over their superman flag capes
 
Anyone with a half functioning brain can see this is ALL political.

It's an absolute joke, and an embarrassment to this country.

Both the State and Federal Governments should be ashamed of themselves, an all round appalling effort from both sides
Anyone with even a degree of political acuity and/or, to use your words, "a half- functioning brain" could see the politicisation by Scummo. However, even a cursory look around via the medya, forums , personal contacts should make you aware that reasonable political acuity isn't as prevalent as you appear to believe whereas "half-functioning" political brains are.

There is an abundance of peeps who don't believe Scummo's intervention was purely political. And that it was not a means of diverting attention from his myriad of stuff-ups (the latest being RAT) that moved him to make Novaxx politically front and centre. At least 3 tennis connected peeps have now been subsequently pursued as his boyos in an attempt to mop them up so it doesn't look so politically obvious.

And, believe it or not, there is an abundance of peeps who don't see Scummo as a pathological liar, are oblivious to his successive job failures, think he's trustworthy, and is doing a shipshape job. Why one character indicated on this forum only recently all's well cos peeps can still buy fuel and other items.
 
Umm-- I don't think you did, you're just making a claim that's got no evidence or rationale behind it.



Yes.

Because at the start of Lockdown #4, #5 & #6 lead to an increased uptake of vaccinations within the older community. Unfortunately the vaccine was only available to those aged 40+.

If we had sufficient vaccine supply in May we would have seen a higher uptake during those three occasions and would have sat at 60-70% in May rather than the last week of September. Half of the Australian population was denied a vaccine for most of winter because of lack of supply.



But QLD and WA have had different experiences with the pandemic than Victoria did. We would have still faced lockdowns even if we were vaccinated.

Victoria didn't reach COVID zero from Delta, we vaccinated our way out. So the 'stragglers' that only did it because of mandates, etc would have been required in August rather than October and Victoria would have had less time in lockdown.

Vaccination ended lockdown.
You are such a massive hypocrite on 2 fronts. Firstly the view I expressed lacks plausibility according to you because there is no evidence to support it. Yet your opinion, which also cannot be proved to demonstrate we’d have hit 90+%, is supposedly credible? We will never know, but if experience in other states and overseas is any indication we’d have struggled.

Secondly, you had a go at me tandem others for name calling and using offensive language, yet here you are liking posts from others that are well and truly o uncalled for, no matter what your leaning.
 
You are such a massive hypocrite on 2 fronts. Firstly the view I expressed lacks plausibility according to you because there is no evidence to support it. Yet your opinion, which also cannot be proved to demonstrate we’d have hit 90+%, is supposedly credible? We will never know, but if experience in other states and overseas is any indication we’d have struggled.

Victoria hit 90% double dose 16+ on the 25th November. What is not credible or plausible about suggesting that the SAME people would have still have gotten vaccinated if we had vaccine supply earlier?
 
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