Huge AFL Meeting This Week - The Game Changer Has Arrived

[jackster83]

people laughed at the time but Dominos have crushed their competitors

I haven't had a pizza from them for at least five years.

Local pizza bars in my area are too damn good.

 

[WideOpenRoad]

Oh stop talking out your butt will you

This is the union moronic argument that without them workers would be treated like scum and get zero.

Well many countries in Europe have next to no unionisation and they have better systems than ours that dont shut down when someone doesn't get what they DEMAND and everyone strikes.

Have you EVER considered the pay rises that unions demand yearly actually raise the cost of living and therefore are actually not pay rises at all? Obviously coz raising wages doesn't raise anything else the money just appears out of the sky.

I guess the unions have no blame on us going from a medium priced country to one of the dearest in the entire world?

Yeah unions have been friggin brilliant and let's not even start on the corruption of the CFMEU.

But yeah thank god for unions coz without them "mates" with no qualifications can't earn $50 an hour as a "labourer" on a work site and not work if it's wet or too hot.

Or shall we discuss the hospitality union that have allowed the casino to actually lower wages in the casino. They pay LESS now for a dealer than they did when it opened neary 20 years ago. And have been stripped of half their rights.

Or how unions squeeze smaller businesses out of union sites to get kick backs from bigger companies!

Lests not point the finger at the unions for raising the wages and costs of making cars on this country to such a point even the government couldn't subsidise it. Destroying the car industry and then blaming the government for companies having to pay people $60 an hour coz they "deserve" it.

And god no let's not mention the wharf wages that are beyond a joke and costs us billions extra in import/export costs because the union can hold the government to ransom and shut it down costing us further billions.

Nah let's not mention that shall we this country is going backwards at warp speed and the unions are as much to blame as anyone.

Didn't know Andrew Bolt was on Bigfooty

 

[deltablues]

Living in the US has taught me that every western country has the corporate shills who claim that their country is the most expensive in the Western world to do buisiness in.

It simply isn't true.

So you live in the USA. So what. So do I. Your comment fails to address the specific point I made about Oz. Which I repeat, based on business analyses and also from my own experience in international major projects over a period of 35 years in 9 different countries, including Australia. Australia is uncompetitive due to all of its on-costs. The only thing currently in its favor is the low exchange rate.

 

[Running Dog]

Thank God for employers! We would never have received annual leave, penalty rates, maternity leave, superannuation, equal pay for women, OH&S, workers' compensation, sick leave, long service leave, redundancy provisions, allowances, meal and rest breaks, unfair dismissal protections, leave loading and maximum hours' provisions.

Australia's fantastic working conditions are all thanks to the generous nature of employers here. High five for bosses!

You would never have enjoyed any of those things if employers didn't create jobs. Before unions have a role in a workplace someone else has to generate the idea of developing a resource, making a product, providing a service etc. Someone else raises capital investment. Someone else does the research, development, innovation etc. Someone else assumes the risk of potential failure. Someone else has to trust that a market will sustain a business. Then, when a business is viable, then you can start employing workers. Not to diminish the fact that unions have often ameliorated harsh conditions, but you can't just blithely assume there will always be jobs (unless you're a public sector employee). Someone has to create them. If I'm stating the obvious- why didn't you think of it?!

 

[Mattdougie]

Didn't know Andrew Bolt was on Bigfooty

Let me guess

Work in a union site and probably cfmeu

 

[WideOpenRoad]

Let me guess

Work in a union site and probably cfmeu

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

And then as usual the players headed by the AFLPA will sook

Just wait until the girls start demanding equal pay..

 

[Fire]

So you live in the USA. So what. So do I. Your comment fails to address the specific point I made about Oz. Which I repeat, based on business analyses and also from my own experience in international major projects over a period of 35 years in 9 different countries, including Australia. Australia is uncompetitive due to all of its on-costs. The only thing currently in its favor is the low exchange rate.

You're way too aggressive, and are arguing a point I've already said I wasn't addressing.

You need to get laid son.

 

[Scotland]

I want to see more money going to grassroots footy.

Not NSW or Qld or silly pet projects for migrants or Indigenous lesbian muslims or whatever, just good old fashioned junior footy in Vic, SA, WA, NT and Tassie.

The players deserve more, but we don't need to see the salary cap go up a few million while local footy clubs continue to struggle.

 

[Belnakor]

I haven't had a pizza from them for at least five years.

Local pizza bars in my area are too damn good.

dominos is 25% of the pizza market, eagle boys just went out of business. Before the "game changer" i think it was more like 20/10%. So dominos did actually change the game. 60% of the pizza market is local pizza bars.

 

[Kwality]

people laughed at the time but Dominos have crushed their competitors

Anyone laughing could not have known Jack Cowin was in there day#1.

 

[Kwality]

I want to see more money going to grassroots footy.

Not NSW or Qld or silly pet projects for migrants or Indigenous lesbian muslims or whatever, just good old fashioned junior footy in Vic, SA, WA, NT and Tassie.

The players deserve more, but we don't need to see the salary cap go up a few million while local footy clubs continue to struggle.

... well said.
Be interesting to se if the AFL release details of what was decided or drip feed a select few media types.

 

[Established1870]

Not NSW or Qld or silly pet projects for migrants or Indigenous lesbian muslims or whatever,

Greatest one liner of all time.

 

[Laverde2Smack]

- Lower the minimum salary cap to 90%

The cap is going to go to a full 100% with no minimum provisions.

 

[Damon_3388]

Oh stop talking out your butt will you

This is the union moronic argument that without them workers would be treated like scum and get zero.

Well many countries in Europe have next to no unionisation and they have better systems than ours that dont shut down when someone doesn't get what they DEMAND and everyone strikes.

Have you EVER considered the pay rises that unions demand yearly actually raise the cost of living and therefore are actually not pay rises at all? Obviously coz raising wages doesn't raise anything else the money just appears out of the sky.

I guess the unions have no blame on us going from a medium priced country to one of the dearest in the entire world?

Yeah unions have been friggin brilliant and let's not even start on the corruption of the CFMEU.

But yeah thank god for unions coz without them "mates" with no qualifications can't earn $50 an hour as a "labourer" on a work site and not work if it's wet or too hot.

Or shall we discuss the hospitality union that have allowed the casino to actually lower wages in the casino. They pay LESS now for a dealer than they did when it opened neary 20 years ago. And have been stripped of half their rights.

Or how unions squeeze smaller businesses out of union sites to get kick backs from bigger companies!

Lests not point the finger at the unions for raising the wages and costs of making cars on this country to such a point even the government couldn't subsidise it. Destroying the car industry and then blaming the government for companies having to pay people $60 an hour coz they "deserve" it.

And god no let's not mention the wharf wages that are beyond a joke and costs us billions extra in import/export costs because the union can hold the government to ransom and shut it down costing us further billions.

Nah let's not mention that shall we this country is going backwards at warp speed and the unions are as much to blame as anyone.

There's plenty of non-unionised jobs out there too...

 

[treefingers]

Have you EVER considered the pay rises that unions demand yearly actually raise the cost of living and therefore are actually not pay rises at all? Obviously coz raising wages doesn't raise anything else the money just appears out of .

Wait so the unions are the sole cause of inflation lol?

 

[Mattdougie]

Wait so the unions are the sole cause of inflation lol?

No but they are a big part of it and to suggest that everything they do is positive a laugh

They do as much harm as good

 

[treefingers]

No but they are a big part of it and to suggest that everything they do is positive a laugh

They do as much harm as good

Agree, but they'd have almost no impact on the cost of living

 

[Mattdougie]

Agree, but they'd have almost no impact on the cost of living

No they do mate

They continue to ask for pay rises in industries that really don't need more money right now.

That cost to employers is passed on and on and eventually effects everyone's bottom line.

 

[GreyCrow]

SRP board is thataway >>>> if you want to talk unions. If you want to talk players union then go right ahead

 

[deltablues]

You're way too aggressive, and are arguing a point I've already said I wasn't addressing.

You need to get laid son.

Bud, you seem to have some text comprehension issues. Try to address the point instead of playing the man.

 

[coerced]

Wait so the unions are the sole cause of inflation lol?

Which is puzzling, because inflation is nearly non existent and union membership is in the toilet. The 70s want their economic arguments back.

 

[Tas]

The cap is going to go to a full 100% with no minimum provisions.

It is just stupid, all clubs do is if their list is only worth 85% is bring future contracts forward, if that is allowed you may as well allow clubs to pay under the cap.

 

[mikeythemoocow]

Well many countries in Europe have next to no unionisation

Many have high Unionisation rates including countries like Switzerland and Germany which are held up as world leaders in high quality manufacturing.

But yeah thank god for unions coz without them "mates" with no qualifications can't earn $50 an hour as a "labourer" on a work site and not work if it's wet or too hot.

I see you have gone to the Herald Sun school of payment comparisons. The rate of $50 is for a highly skilled labourer, who will hold a high risk tickets to operate Diggers, sling crane loads or other such work as a casual employee. That means their annual leave, super sick leave etc. is payed up front. If they were to be employed full time (Which they all want, but companies wont offer) their hourly pay rate is somewhere in the mark of $28-$34 an hour.

Or how unions squeeze smaller businesses out of union sites to get kick backs from bigger companies!

Im a smaller company in construction and this has never happened to me. I have only had trouble because I pay my workers better that Union awards, but it has been sorted out pretty easily.

Nah let's not mention that shall we this country is going backwards at warp speed and the unions are as much to blame as anyone.

Why dont we not blame the average punter, that just wants to provide a decent upbringing for their kids, for the greed that is destroying the fabric of our country.

 

[Mancey]

Was Mancey on his pink phone when he arrived?

Don't make me shift your paradigm