List Mgmt. Hypothetical trades and wishlists thread

[VandoHawk]

As a Delisted Free Agent or a late draft selection I wouldn't mind Lamb. But in terms of trading he's not worth anything.

 

[MasterSamurai]

I'll stand by my status quo call. No need to trade for tradings sake, no need for adventure. No need for sideways trades either. Go for pix and more pix to load up for next year's draft.
Only trade for picks.

 

[MacMace]

Regardless of his personal issues, I wouldn't want Stringer. There is seems to be an unbelievable amount of hype for a guy that has had one great season, averages low disposals and has poor kicking efficiency. Good luck to anyone picks his overrated ass up.

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[sven_inc]

Tristan Tweedie just got delisted by the dogs for those keeping tabs.

As always I think we get worked up when the Hawks don't pick someone we think/hope they should.

Maybe another they got right?

 

[Hodginator]

Trade Possibles: going through the list of uncontracted players in 2017, these appear to be possible diamonds in the rough...

Tom Rockliff (Bris)- contract 3-4 years will give Bris a compo pick
Jake Lever (Adel)- will cost a lot to trade and with contract(maybe too much?)
Caleb Marchbank (Carl)- (uncontracted atm, if Carlton go big on Rockliff, he might be available?)
Jarrod Pickett (Carl)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth picking up for cheap)
Tom Phillips (Coll)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth picking up for cheap)
Harley Balic (Freo)- (uncontracted atm, "on indefinate leave for personal reasons" red flag?)
Darcy Lang (Geel)- (uncontracted atm, read in a paper geelong are considering trading him to make space for stringer and ablett???)
Josh Schoenfeld (GCS)- (uncontracted atm, young outside runner, might be worth a trade for a nothing pick)
Matthew Kennedy (GWS)- (uncontracted atm, could be worth a trade with puopolo?)
Devon Smith (GWS)- (uncontracted atm, i hear we might be into him from trade whispers? idk how to feel about this?)
Jake Batchelor (Rich)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth a late pick)
Tom Lamb (WCE)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth picking up)

some talent going cheap, some of them worth a look, #BriansBargains

Surprise, surprise, the Blues (aka GWS mkII) are trying to nab Smith.

 

[matsta1975]

I wouldn't be surprised by, or unhappy with, a straight swap of Billy Hartung for Tom Lamb.

Tom Lamb (West Coast)
A 20yr old with elite endurance who stands at 193cm. Has strong hands, athleticism and versatility. Played mostly wing and half-forward in the WAFL.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-18/eagle-lamb-could-fly-home-after-limited-opportunities

The grandson of st kilds only ever best on in a grand final Ian Cooper who was going to be an out and out star until his bout of Ross River Feaver

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

People taking far too much out of what Clarkson said on footy classified.

He's never come out and said "we will be very busy in the trade period", and he has no reason to start doing it now.

 

[Mitchell54]

As West Cost supporters should know their player, Mitchell5 you are probably right that a straight swap isn't a fair trade. A swap of Draft Picks is needed: Maybe WC pick 29 for the Hawks pick 39. Which is eq. to Harting for Lamb + Pick 45

If I was Hawthorn i still wouldnt be interested. Would want to net a high as pick as possible for Hartung if we were to trade him or package him with a pick or another player for a better player

 

[Braidz]

What about Anthony Miles? I like the look of him

 

[eldorado]

The Balic train looked headed for Dingley at full speed a week or so ago, now it seems to have disappeared like MH370...

I've been looking him up in the last 2 weeks...I hope we're still in the frame

 

[Alite]

If I was Hawthorn i still wouldnt be interested. Would want to net a high as pick as possible for Hartung if we were to trade him or package him with a pick or another player for a better player

That I understand. If Hartung is to go to West Coast (the basis of my first mention of Lamb), then the Hawks clearly should get the best possible trade terms. If West Coast want him and Gaff wants to come to Vic, then as long as it doesn't cost us too much (2018 picks) then great.

And I appreciate your different point of view on Lamb. It made me look more closely at his recent football form and reviews. I am now more convinced there is a diamond in the rough for the taking.
193cm elite endurance athletes with good pace, nice foot skills and sure hands don't come along every day. Surely Clarko and Co could mould him into a significant player.

Aside: he also interviews very well. He seems a good guy.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

What about Anthony Miles? I like the look of him

Too slow, gets killed going the other way.

 

[bluespooner]

As a Delisted Free Agent or a late draft selection I wouldn't mind Lamb. But in terms of trading he's not worth anything.

What role would Lamb play?

He has played one game in 3 years at West Coast and after seeing him play for East Perth when I was over for the previous two years he looks no more then an average WAFL player.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The Balic train looked headed for Dingley at full speed a week or so ago, now it seems to have disappeared like MH370...

I've been looking him up in the last 2 weeks...I hope we're still in the frame

DINGLEYLAND!!

 

[Rioli the king]

There's a reason that clubs don't just trade away all their older players. Smith won't go anywhere, especially as he's so integral to our game plan (has been for 5 years now).

We probably do have a few too many stars that are the wrong side of 29 - but the club has decided the immediate future and it's called Roughead, Shiels and Smith. Others may be on the way out now but not those three.

Agree with what your saying, but Roughead, Rioli won't be going anywhere not everyone over 25 will be moved, but the fact is Smith is the type of player contending teams would pay for, the combination of speed/endurance is rare. I'm saying that he is 28 and will be during the trade period why not trade him this year and get the best value in return? He will be 29 by the start of next year (30/12) and the whole 30 turns clubs off.
His currency is on a downward spiral and he can get us a pick that can be used for a similar player. He should most definitely be a trade option because I'd be surprised if he's around for our next flag. There will still be senior players around and he would probably command more than Brad Hill.

 

[Rioli the king]

Agree with what your saying, but Roughead, Rioli won't be going anywhere not everyone over 25 will be moved, but the fact is Smith is the type of player contending teams would pay for, the combination of speed/endurance is rare. I'm saying that he is 28 and will be during the trade period why not trade him this year and get the best value in return? He will be 29 by the start of next year (30/12) and the whole 30 turns clubs off.
His currency is on a downward spiral and he can get us a pick that can be used for a similar player. He should most definitely be a trade option because I'd be surprised if he's around for our next flag. There will still be senior players around and he would probably command more than Brad Hill.

also where is that information coming from? Have I missed something?

 

[SSSSSS]

That I understand. If Hartung is to leave, then the Hawks clearly should get the best possible trade terms. If West Coast want him and Gaff wants to come to Vic, then as long as it doesn't cost us too much (2018 picks) then great.

And I appreciate your different point of view on Lamb. It made me look more closely at his recent football form and reviews. I am now more convinced there is a diamond in the rough for the taking.
193cm elite endurance athletes with, good pace, nice foot skills and sure hands don't come along every day. Surely Clarko and Co could mould him into a significant player.

Aside: he also interviews very well. He seems a good guy.

Hearsay is that his attitude/work ethic on the track is not fit for standards. Inconsistency was one of his big knocks as a junior as well.

Certainly has the talent but I'm turned off a lot by what I've heard about him.

 

[Alite]

Hearsay is that his attitude/work ethic on the track is not fit for standards. Inconsistency was one of his big knocks as a junior as well.

Certainly has the talent but I'm turned off a lot by what I've heard about him.

Yep I heard that as well in his draft year. Yet I find it hard to believe that a known endurance athlete has work ethic issues. Attitude issues are another thing. Yet scuttle butt on the W.C. board is that they will be offering him a 1year extension. So his attitude cannot be that bad. Ask Stringer... Haha

What role would Lamb play?

He has played one game in 3 years at West Coast and after seeing him play for East Perth when I was over for the previous two years he looks no more then an average WAFL player.

Role: Wingman straight swap for Hartung.

I'm going off stats and snipits of video and other people's opinions. Eye-witness accounts from an avid AFL watcher trumps me every time.

I have further aguements but I'll cede the point to an eye-witness.

 

[Threadkilla]

DINGLEYLAND!!

 

[Pessimistic]

Regardless of his personal issues, I wouldn't want Stringer. There is seems to be an unbelievable amount of hype for a guy that has had one great season, averages low disposals and has poor kicking efficiency. Good luck to anyone picks his overrated ass up.

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Sounds dumb as too

 

[Hawk_francais]

Agree with what your saying, but Roughead, Rioli won't be going anywhere not everyone over 25 will be moved, but the fact is Smith is the type of player contending teams would pay for, the combination of speed/endurance is rare. I'm saying that he is 28 and will be during the trade period why not trade him this year and get the best value in return? He will be 29 by the start of next year (30/12) and the whole 30 turns clubs off.
His currency is on a downward spiral and he can get us a pick that can be used for a similar player. He should most definitely be a trade option because I'd be surprised if he's around for our next flag. There will still be senior players around and he would probably command more than Brad Hill.

He would be worth a second rounder. Would you rather a second round pick, or Isaac Smith for 3-4 more years?

 

[Burtman]

Trade Possibles: going through the list of uncontracted players in 2017, these appear to be possible diamonds in the rough...

Tom Rockliff (Bris)- contract 3-4 years will give Bris a compo pick
Jake Lever (Adel)- will cost a lot to trade and with contract(maybe too much?)
Caleb Marchbank (Carl)- (uncontracted atm, if Carlton go big on Rockliff, he might be available?)
Jarrod Pickett (Carl)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth picking up for cheap)
Tom Phillips (Coll)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth picking up for cheap)
Harley Balic (Freo)- (uncontracted atm, "on indefinate leave for personal reasons" red flag?)
Darcy Lang (Geel)- (uncontracted atm, read in a paper geelong are considering trading him to make space for stringer and ablett???)
Josh Schoenfeld (GCS)- (uncontracted atm, young outside runner, might be worth a trade for a nothing pick)
Matthew Kennedy (GWS)- (uncontracted atm, could be worth a trade with puopolo?)
Devon Smith (GWS)- (uncontracted atm, i hear we might be into him from trade whispers? idk how to feel about this?)
Jake Batchelor (Rich)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth a late pick)
Tom Lamb (WCE)- (uncontracted atm, might be worth picking up)

some talent going cheap, some of them worth a look, #BriansBargains

How did they get marchbank to come across on a one year deal? Wtf is his manager doing?

 

[Roughies Boys]

The Balic train looked headed for Dingley at full speed a week or so ago, now it seems to have disappeared like MH370...

I've been looking him up in the last 2 weeks...I hope we're still in the frame

I thought he was going to Carlton?

 

[GinniAndTonic]

How did they get marchbank to come across on a one year deal? Wtf is his manager doing?

Marchbank is not out of contract!!!

 

[Alite]

Agree with what your saying, but Roughead, Rioli won't be going anywhere not everyone over 25 will be moved, but the fact is Smith is the type of player contending teams would pay for, the combination of speed/endurance is rare. I'm saying that he is 28 and will be during the trade period why not trade him this year and get the best value in return? He will be 29 by the start of next year (30/12) and the whole 30 turns clubs off.
His currency is on a downward spiral and he can get us a pick that can be used for a similar player. He should most definitely be a trade option because I'd be surprised if he's around for our next flag. There will still be senior players around and he would probably command more than Brad Hill.

Loosing Hill hurt the Hawks greatly.
If Smith is traded... We get the top pick in the 2018 draft.