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Adil Rashid bowled beautifully as well.
Don't mean to derail the thread but gee, the future of Cricket looks pretty grim when you have over two months of the International Cricket calendar on pause for the IPL followed by another full month of the T20 World Cup.
What's even the point when the best players for the most part just got done playing a two month tournament? Obviously we know the answer but it doesn't feel very meaningful.
I don't believe most fans of Test and even ODI to an extent just jump onto T20 as an alternative. It feels like T20 as it's currently played serves a completely different audience and over time traditionalists will just ditch the sport entirely.
Anyway, for those who enjoy this I hope it's a good tournament and the minnows do well.
What's even the point when the best players for the most part just got done playing a two month tournament? Obviously we know the answer but it doesn't feel very meaningful.
I don't believe most fans of Test and even ODI to an extent just jump onto T20 as an alternative. It feels like T20 as it's currently played serves a completely different audience and over time traditionalists will just ditch the sport entirely.
Anyway, for those who enjoy this I hope it's a good tournament and the minnows do well.
Stop being a pompous doomsdayer. T20 cricket has grown the game hugely. Look at the diversity of the nations playing at this world cup. Cricket is also back in the olympics thanks to T20.
It's a thing because it's baseball. That's because it needs that kind of novely to overcome the utter boredom of it being - baseball.
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Never been all that big on T20 as a format, but do like that an emerging market like USA is hosting matches.
Pooling them with Canada, India and Pakistan should ensure strong crowds too.
Pooling them with Canada, India and Pakistan should ensure strong crowds too.
The ICC has ftfy.
To be fair to the ICC, they never pretended that it was a random draw.
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Going off the rankings at the time the groups were released (6 Jan), and styling the groups according to the FIFA WC, we have this
So the four groups in accordance to their pots
| Pot 1 | Pot 2 | Pot 3 | Pot 4 | Pot 5 |
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| USA (23) West Indies (7) India (1) England (2) | New Zealand (3) Pakistan (4) Australia (5) South Africa (6) | Sri Lanka (8) Bangladesh (9) Afghanistan (10) Namibia (11) | Ireland (12) Scotland (14) Netherlands (15) Nepal (16) | Oman (18) PNG (19) Canada (20) Uganda (22) |
So the four groups in accordance to their pots
| Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D |
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| India (Pot 1) Pakistan (Pot 2) Ireland (Pot 4) Canada (Pot 5) USA (Pot 1) | England (Pot 1) Australia (Pot 2) Namibia (Pot 3) Scotland (Pot 4) Oman (Pot 5) | New Zealand (Pot 2) West Indies (Pot 1) Afghanistan (Pot 3) Uganda (Pot 5) PNG (Pot 5) | South Africa (Pot 2) Sri Lanka (Pot 3) Bangladesh (Pot 3) Netherlands (Pot 4) Nepal (Pot 4) |
| Heavily biased towards Ind v Pak making it through, considering USA are ranked 23 | Most realistic group out of the 4, one from each pot | This shows no hope for the Pot 5 teams, could have swapped out Ned or Nep for Uga or PNG to make this group perfect | The group of death, mid range teams, probably dealt due to prioritizing Group A |
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Logistical issues popping up. Sri Lanka, South Africa and Ireland have lodged a formal complaint with the ICC over travel arrangements.
Sri Lanka had to wait 7 hours for a chartered flight from Florida to NYC, which was supposed to arrive at 8pm on Friday but instead got in at 5am the next day, effectively wiping out a day of practice. Their hotel is also apparently 1.5 hours away from the practice facility while India’s is just around the corner from the practice facility and stadium.
Sri Lanka had to wait 7 hours for a chartered flight from Florida to NYC, which was supposed to arrive at 8pm on Friday but instead got in at 5am the next day, effectively wiping out a day of practice. Their hotel is also apparently 1.5 hours away from the practice facility while India’s is just around the corner from the practice facility and stadium.
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I watched the start of that video and thought "man what an overreaction from AtW" then a few seconds later was like "man what an overreaction from American Police" which i guess is standard procedure
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How often do they plan on doing a World Cup?
There definitely over doing it at the moment
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Wasn't 2021 the COVID delayed 2020 WC. So every two years would seem to be the case. Which for a fast food form of cricket is probably fine.
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Seems too much to me... every 3 or 4 years it should be.
Yep, every two years.
2026 in India and Sri Lanka
2028 in Australia and New Zealand
2030 in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland
Oh, this has nothing to do with making inroads in the US. It's about taking money from the large south asian despora that live in the US and have a very high income. Nothing more.
If the ICC cared about exposing the game to wider Americans, they would not have sold the rights exclusively to willow TV, a specialist cricket streaming platform which no one in the US has any access to, beyond those who already love the sport.
If the ICC cared about exposing the game to wider Americans, they would not be starting the matches at 10am local time to maximise TV revenue from India.
Basically, the average American has NFI this is on, and no access to check it out even if they did!
The ICC don't even give a stuff about the West Indies fans, scheduling the home teams first match in Guyana at 10:30 am on a Sunday, when the locals are all in Church, at a time of year where its too hot to schedule anything in the daytime, for $75USD a seat in a country with the average income is $1.2k a month. Sure, no one is showing up, but it works great to have a match every morning and prime time in India tho.
It's a joke of a tournament, which is a real shame as there have been some real crackers so far, and its a format where anything can and does happen when it comes to the associates, which has massive potential to grow the game both inside and outside existing markets.
But the ICC has sucked it dry. I have no idea why they are even trying to make so much money though; they clearly don't give a shit about developing the sport so whats it all even for? They are behaving like a private company which has to pay out shareholders.
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T20 is more about entertainment than prestige. And it's a more volatile game, which means it's more prone to upsets and the best team not winning. Therefore I don't mind it as a coming together of international teams every two years. If anything, I'd cut back on any bilateral series outside of World Cup warm-ups. Players get enough games in the IPL, their own nation's T20 tournaments and increasingly on the circuit.
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Couldn't have summed it up better. ICC has absolutely zero intention of selling the sport to the seppos, and if they did it would not be behind a cricket-specific paywall streaming service.
I think one thing I'd say is that with the Windies games, it's clear they are actively trying to lose money, so I have no ****ing idea what the strategy is given they are trying to cash in on America. Surely 1000 people paying $10 a ticket is better than 15 people paying $75?
It feels like a tale of two organisers. It's all incredibly disappointing and I say this as someone who only watches this wheely bin bullshit because there's no good cricket on.
Not that I'm here to shill for the ICC, but the base price for matches involving West Indies at Guyana was/is US$22. Meanwhile the highest you'll pay for PNG vs Uganda at the same venue is $25, and they start at $6. I suspect the highest prices are aimed at tourists more than locals.
And as has been pointed out previously, sporting competitions routinely schedule matches to suit the primary TV markets - the Olympics shifted swimming finals to the morning in Tokyo for the US broadcasters, for instance.
And as has been pointed out previously, sporting competitions routinely schedule matches to suit the primary TV markets - the Olympics shifted swimming finals to the morning in Tokyo for the US broadcasters, for instance.
