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If only for 2011, make ANZAC Day a GF replay.
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GF replay should not and will not be R1, you want to build the suspense for the replay, not get it over and done with in R1.
r1 should be prelim finalists vs each other or something similar
r1 should be prelim finalists vs each other or something similar
Awesome idea. Take the replay which is always going to get a really healthy crowd (you would think minimum 60k up to possibly 90k) and put it on the day you are always going to get a guaranteed 90k, ANZAC day.
Common sense says put it on a round when there isn't much else happening to ensure a big crowd where there wouldn't have been one.
Common sense says put it on a round when there isn't much else happening to ensure a big crowd where there wouldn't have been one.
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The GF replay is this Saturday... 
ANZAC Day should stay Coll/Ess. Even when one or both teams are shizen, it draws and makes moneyz.
ANZAC Day should stay Coll/Ess. Even when one or both teams are shizen, it draws and makes moneyz.
Yeah the GWS v Gold Coast at the MCG on ANZAC Day will be massive.
What the AFL should be looking to do is create Blockbusters that don't involve Essendon and Collingwood.
Hawthorn and Geelong on Easter Monday is a good example. Brisbane building Easter Thursday (tried with Collingwood and St Kilda, now Carlton) needs longer to develop, and a regular opponent.
Port Adelaide and St Kilda have ANZAC Day Round going, although the fact it is always in Adelaide with Port's support base leaves it wanting. Freo do well in this round also.
What we don't need is manufactured events that have nothing to do with football, like the Dreamtime at the G and Eureka Game. It should be about the football.
Hawthorn and Geelong on Easter Monday is a good example. Brisbane building Easter Thursday (tried with Collingwood and St Kilda, now Carlton) needs longer to develop, and a regular opponent.
Port Adelaide and St Kilda have ANZAC Day Round going, although the fact it is always in Adelaide with Port's support base leaves it wanting. Freo do well in this round also.
What we don't need is manufactured events that have nothing to do with football, like the Dreamtime at the G and Eureka Game. It should be about the football.
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Bullsshitt...always was a big drawing day before the afl gave it to collingwood...
Whatever maglies ask for they get
For the sake of an even comp this has to change
I was furious when it was first given to them...now with time you think it belongs to you...get fckked..we all play in the same comp and should have the same opportunities, unless of course you only want a 6 team comp. But then you would complain about subsidising the teams that fill the unwanted days/games that collingwood avoid.
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Keep it.
Supporters of other clubs are just jealous, and this guy who started the thread barracks for Richmond, so their is no biased skewed view with my opinion.
Clubs have to lobby hard to start a tradition, and when they establish this, they deserve to keep it.
Richmond have worked hard to start up round one as a tradition, and its massive while we are down, so imagine how massive it will get once we are up?
I don't think the on field performance should have anything to do with certain blockbusters, they are blockbusters because of the clubs, not the players.
Supporters of other clubs are just jealous, and this guy who started the thread barracks for Richmond, so their is no biased skewed view with my opinion.
Clubs have to lobby hard to start a tradition, and when they establish this, they deserve to keep it.
Richmond have worked hard to start up round one as a tradition, and its massive while we are down, so imagine how massive it will get once we are up?
I don't think the on field performance should have anything to do with certain blockbusters, they are blockbusters because of the clubs, not the players.
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Just like north and friday nights...well if collingwood can draw bigger crowds they should get them all....who cares about the comp
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I'd quite like a Saints v Port ANZAC day weekend match in Melbourne as I head over for the Pies v Bombers match and would like to see my team play on that weekend!
Yeah everything is Collingwood's fault, big crowds, big ratings on TV.
Why would the AFL and the Networks want the Pies on prime time?
Mate, it is all about the dollars.
Do you think that the networks would be offering a Billion next time around if North were on every Friday night?
And by the way where does that Billion dollars go?
Pumped back to ALL the clubs equally.
So before bagging Coll, you need to realise the AFL are using Collingwood for their own benefit.
What are you talking about- you dumb ass- games were played on ANZAC day by other teams for years.
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If you listen to most Collingwood and Essendon supporters you'd think that Anzac Day was only invented in 1995 when they began playing their annual games against each other.
Of course they were you idiot, however it was not the recognized modern day tradition that it is (in which medals are handed out to honour the best player on the ground) until 1995. Since THEN, it has always been Essendon and Collingwood, and it will always remain this way.
This was what Zahki was implying, but you were too thick to realize this.
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oooooooohhhhhhhhh medals!!!!!!!!!
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In 1995 Collingwood & Essendon MADE Anzac Day a tradition. It is now one of the biggest games of the year, regardless of which day of the week it is played.
In 1989 Anzac Day was a Tuesday, 2 games with crowds of 41,000 & 33,000. In 1990 Anzac Day was a Wednesday, 2 games with crowds of 25,000 & 24,000.
In 1991 Anzac Day was a Thursday, 2 games with crowds of 56,000 (Collingwood) & 16,000.
In 1992 Anzac Day was a Saturday, 3 games with crowds of 73,000 (Collingwood), 41,000 (Essendon) & 34,000.
In 1993 Anzac Day was a Sunday, 3 games with crowds of 51,000, 17,000 & 13,000.
In 1994 Anzac Day was a Monday, one game with less than 38,000.
So come to 1995 - Anzac Day was on a Tuesday - no club wanted to play because mid week games proved to be unpopular and difficult to manage as too quick a back up from previous weekend or before following weekend.
It took two great clubs like Collingwood & Essendon to make something of the day. Not just a normal game but a day of reverence to remember something great about our country.
1995 - 95,000 people
1996 - 88,000 people
1997 - 84,000 people (this was a Friday - one other game drew 23,000)
1998 - 81,000 people (a Saturday - 2 other games drew 26,000 & 22,000)
1999 - 73,000 people (a Sunday - 2 other games drew 43,000 & 24,000)
2000 - 88,000 people (a Tuesday - 1 other game drew 20,000)
2001 - 84,000 people
2002 - 85,000 people
2003 - 63,000 people (a Friday - one other game 24,000)
2004 - 57,000 people (a Saturday - 2 other games 35,000 & 27,000)
2005 - 70,000 people
2006 - 91,000 people
2007 - 90,000 people
2008 - 89,000 people (a Friday - one other game 38,000)
2009 - 85,000 people (Saturday - 3 other games 18,000, 33,000 & 29,000)
2010 - 90,000 people (Sunday - 2 other games 16,000 & 38,000)
So really what it all boils down to to is that originally others clubs played Anzac Day and they couldn't get crowds, especially if mid week.
Only once in more than 20 years has a club other than Collingwood & Essendon drawn a crowd of more than 50,000 on Anzac Day, but yet on most years there are in fact other games.
It p!sses me off when supporters from other clubs see the success of Anzac Day - say they want a piece of the pie when in reality they had their chance and either didn't capitalise by having poor crowds, or simply didn't want to play on Anzac Day at all when it was mid week.
The Collingwood / Essendon Anzac Day tradition was created by the 2 clubs and its success is directly resulting from their brilliant marketing and hard work.
2011 Anzac Day in on a Monday. Other clubs will winge and moan they want to play as well.
2012 Anzac Day is on a Wednesday. The silence from the other clubs will be deafening.
If they want their own blockbuster, it is obvious their supporters won't come and watch them mid week, so they should try to get a yearly event on a weekend - Good Friday, Mother's Day.
In 1989 Anzac Day was a Tuesday, 2 games with crowds of 41,000 & 33,000. In 1990 Anzac Day was a Wednesday, 2 games with crowds of 25,000 & 24,000.
In 1991 Anzac Day was a Thursday, 2 games with crowds of 56,000 (Collingwood) & 16,000.
In 1992 Anzac Day was a Saturday, 3 games with crowds of 73,000 (Collingwood), 41,000 (Essendon) & 34,000.
In 1993 Anzac Day was a Sunday, 3 games with crowds of 51,000, 17,000 & 13,000.
In 1994 Anzac Day was a Monday, one game with less than 38,000.
So come to 1995 - Anzac Day was on a Tuesday - no club wanted to play because mid week games proved to be unpopular and difficult to manage as too quick a back up from previous weekend or before following weekend.
It took two great clubs like Collingwood & Essendon to make something of the day. Not just a normal game but a day of reverence to remember something great about our country.
1995 - 95,000 people
1996 - 88,000 people
1997 - 84,000 people (this was a Friday - one other game drew 23,000)
1998 - 81,000 people (a Saturday - 2 other games drew 26,000 & 22,000)
1999 - 73,000 people (a Sunday - 2 other games drew 43,000 & 24,000)
2000 - 88,000 people (a Tuesday - 1 other game drew 20,000)
2001 - 84,000 people
2002 - 85,000 people
2003 - 63,000 people (a Friday - one other game 24,000)
2004 - 57,000 people (a Saturday - 2 other games 35,000 & 27,000)
2005 - 70,000 people
2006 - 91,000 people
2007 - 90,000 people
2008 - 89,000 people (a Friday - one other game 38,000)
2009 - 85,000 people (Saturday - 3 other games 18,000, 33,000 & 29,000)
2010 - 90,000 people (Sunday - 2 other games 16,000 & 38,000)
So really what it all boils down to to is that originally others clubs played Anzac Day and they couldn't get crowds, especially if mid week.
Only once in more than 20 years has a club other than Collingwood & Essendon drawn a crowd of more than 50,000 on Anzac Day, but yet on most years there are in fact other games.
It p!sses me off when supporters from other clubs see the success of Anzac Day - say they want a piece of the pie when in reality they had their chance and either didn't capitalise by having poor crowds, or simply didn't want to play on Anzac Day at all when it was mid week.
The Collingwood / Essendon Anzac Day tradition was created by the 2 clubs and its success is directly resulting from their brilliant marketing and hard work.
2011 Anzac Day in on a Monday. Other clubs will winge and moan they want to play as well.
2012 Anzac Day is on a Wednesday. The silence from the other clubs will be deafening.
If they want their own blockbuster, it is obvious their supporters won't come and watch them mid week, so they should try to get a yearly event on a weekend - Good Friday, Mother's Day.
I think the GF rematch should close round 1. Openning with it means the most anticpated game is done with too early. Nothing wrong in principle with Carlton v Richmond as a season openner on a Thursday but the games have been rubbish. 2011 might be different though.
I would also be just as happy to throw the season into a random draw and even match schedule so long as those that whinge about the draw and schedule don't then whinge about reduced AFL dividend and greater gulf between the haves and have nots in a few years time.
I would also be just as happy to throw the season into a random draw and even match schedule so long as those that whinge about the draw and schedule don't then whinge about reduced AFL dividend and greater gulf between the haves and have nots in a few years time.
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It should be during a split round, if possible, somewhere between round 5 to 8, with only a few games on in melbourne that weekend. Should be either a friday or saturday night game..., or saturday afternoon...
It should be during a split round, if possible, somewhere between round 5 to 8, with only a few games on in melbourne that weekend. Should be either a friday or saturday night game..., or saturday afternoon...
could have fooled me he was saying that. Besides there were ANZAC ceremonies before then as well and thats what the day is about, not Collingwood and Essendon cashing up so they can pay untried favorite sons outrageous amounts of money to coach their teams. How many ANZAC days did you attend prior to 1995. I doubt you were even born.
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