News Insightful and Inciteful - 2022 Media Thread

[Into The Black]

Because as a traditional football state the people there should have had a representative in the national competition over 30 years ago.

The people of Tasmania also deserve to be treated better by the sport's administration than as a means to provide a sugar hit to parasitic Victorian clubs that struggle to generate their own support.


Financially they make more sense than arguably a third of the Melbourne clubs and (TV rights aside) the two recent expansion clubs into Rugby territory.

While I agree with your initial sentiment, the fact is , TAS 1/2 million people NSW 8 mil, Qld 5 mil. Simply about the money, except when it comes to "traditional" Melbourne clubs.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Well these former VFL teams would feel entitled to their place in the league since they were there before all the other "expansion" clubs.
Although I haven't really looked into the circumstances for it, Fitzroy was "merged" with Brisbane and South Melbourne was relocated to Sydney, so there is a some sort of precedence for it.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Tassie lacking a team is bullshit.

We might have to do 19 teams for a while, until we get a Darwin/NT team. What's done is done, but Gold Coast shouldn't exist.

Make it so.

 

[ziad]

While I agree with your initial sentiment, the fact is , TAS 1/2 million people NSW 8 mil, Qld 5 mil. Simply about the money, except when it comes to "traditional" Melbourne clubs.

It gets worse, Biggest economy is Sydney, Second is Melbourne, Third is Western Sydney, then its SEQ. GWS and GC are here to stay.
The Clubs and Melbourne influences (its a shit hole of an old boys club) run the AFL so the VFL teams are here to stay.

 

[larrikin]

It gets worse, Biggest economy is Sydney, Second is Melbourne, Third is Western Sydney, then its SEQ. GWS and GC are here to stay.
The Clubs and Melbourne influences (its a shit hole of an old boys club) run the AFL so the VFL teams are here to stay.

I tend to agree. GWS and Gold Coast were the right choices IMO. Tas is an alternative to an old VFL club, not one of those two.

 

[The wily weagle]

I have never really understood this whole Tasmanian North/South divide

You would think they would be 100% behind Hobart being the logical choice about being the base for their AFL team but there is still bickering about games being played in Launceston

 

[Ochre]

Well these former VFL teams would feel entitled to their place in the league since they were there before all the other "expansion" clubs.
Although I haven't really looked into the circumstances for it, Fitzroy was "merged" with Brisbane and South Melbourne was relocated to Sydney, so there is a some sort of precedence for it.

What happened to Fitzroy was an utter disgrace and the only precedent it should set is what not to do.

 

[bzparkes]

I have never really understood this whole Tasmanian North/South divide

You would think they would be 100% behind Hobart being the logical choice about being the base for their AFL team but there is still bickering about games being played in Launceston

Until you've lived there, you'll never understand.

Consider this: you live in Margaret River, yet the plebs in Busselton make all the decisions regarding events you get to host, even though your population region, whilst being less centralised, is actually larger(just pretend if this isn't actually the case)

Instead of leveraging that, Busselton wants to horde all the events to themselves, even though they know everyone in both areas are too lazy to travel more than 30 minutes at the best of times and by doing so, you're excluding a greater portion of the population from attending those events.

On top of that, the people in Busselton are perceived to be self-loving, arrogant twerps, who think they're better than everyone and thus, are entitled to getting the Lions share of events south of Perth, even though it's harder to travel to for the majority of people, the stadium is older and shitter, the city in general is harder to get in and out of and just generally a pain in the arse.

Oh, and their beer is also shit.

Hope this helps you understand the divide a bit better.

 

[KERRPOW]

Wether taswegians are norf or south.

They're both cousin fkrs amirite?

 

[MrKK]

What happened to Fitzroy was an utter disgrace and the only precedent it should set is what not to do.

It was done terribly but the ex VFL teams shouldn't be perpetually immune to being cast off to diminished suburban roots the same way that SANFL and WAFL clubs have been.

 

[MrKK]

Until you've lived there, you'll never understand.

Consider this: you live in Margaret River, yet the plebs in Busselton make all the decisions regarding events you get to host, even though your population region, whilst being less centralised, is actually larger(just pretend if this isn't actually the case)

Instead of leveraging that, Busselton wants to horde all the events to themselves, even though they know everyone in both areas are too lazy to travel more than 30 minutes at the best of times and by doing so, you're excluding a greater portion of the population from attending those events.

On top of that, the people in Busselton are perceived to be self-loving, arrogant twerps, who think they're better than everyone and thus, are entitled to getting the Lions share of events south of Perth, even though it's harder to travel to for the majority of people, the stadium is older and shitter, the city in general is harder to get in and out of and just generally a pain in the arse.

Oh, and their beer is also shit.

Hope this helps you understand the divide a bit better.

Busselton = Hobart in this analogy?

 

[bzparkes]

Busselton = Hobart in this analogy?

Yes

 

[bzparkes]

Wether taswegians are norf or south.

They're both cousin fkrs amirite?

No, heaps of them are mainlanders who moved there.

You'd be surprised at how many people migrate to Tasmania from the mainland.

 

[KERRPOW]

No, heaps of them are mainlanders who moved there.

You'd be surprised at how many people migrate to Tasmania from the mainland.

Old white people?

 

[ziad]

Wether taswegians are norf or south.

They're both cousin fkrs amirite?

Tragically yes, the only spot on earth where red hair is not regressing

 

[GlennTwenty]

Wouldn’t waste time on either of them.. one has no footballing ability and the other one wouldn’t be playing forward anyway and hasn’t played a decent four quarter game for years and is unfit.

Bit harsh on Yeo i would have thought, and Waterman is plenty fit ...

 

[FKASC]

I tend to agree. GWS and Gold Coast were the right choices IMO. Tas is an alternative to an old VFL club, not one of those two.

Gold Coast makes sense but gee their performance, list management and recruiting have made it very hard to get behind them to date.

 

[Keys]

It was done terribly but the ex VFL teams shouldn't be perpetually immune to being cast off to diminished suburban roots the same way that SANFL and WAFL clubs have been.

I wonder how many of the Victorian clubs would satisfy the financial modelling requirements that a proposed Tasmanian team is being asked to prove

 

[bzparkes]

Old white people?

No, a lot of people in their 30s/40s these days.

The oldies all come to qld, where its warmer.

 

[tigger_ferret]

I wonder how many of the Victorian clubs would satisfy the financial modelling requirements that a proposed Tasmanian team is being asked to prove

I understand what you are saying, however, just because a bad precedent has already been set with broke Vic clubs, does not mean that new teams should follow that precedence. It might not be fair, but doubling done on a stupid idea, just makes it more stupid.

 

[Into The Black]

Until you've lived there, you'll never understand.

Consider this: you live in Margaret River, yet the plebs in Busselton make all the decisions regarding events you get to host, even though your population region, whilst being less centralised, is actually larger(just pretend if this isn't actually the case)

Instead of leveraging that, Busselton wants to horde all the events to themselves, even though they know everyone in both areas are too lazy to travel more than 30 minutes at the best of times and by doing so, you're excluding a greater portion of the population from attending those events.

On top of that, the people in Busselton are perceived to be self-loving, arrogant twerps, who think they're better than everyone and thus, are entitled to getting the Lions share of events south of Perth, even though it's harder to travel to for the majority of people, the stadium is older and shitter, the city in general is harder to get in and out of and just generally a pain in the arse.

Oh, and their beer is also shit.

Hope this helps you understand the divide a bit better.

Not sure if just taking the piss but that couldn't be further from the truth. Busselton is a complete different shire to Margs so I don't know how Busselton make any decisions for them. Everything else you wrote is total dribble.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Old white people?

Greenies.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Not sure if just taking the piss but that couldn't be further from the truth. Busselton is a complete different shire to Margs so I don't know how Busselton make any decisions for them. Everything else you wrote is total dribble.

It's an analogy using WA places in place of Hobart and Launceston to explain the hatred between the two, not a description of the actual Busselton/Margaret River relationship.

 

[bzparkes]

Not sure if just taking the piss but that couldn't be further from the truth. Busselton is a complete different shire to Margs so I don't know how Busselton make any decisions for them. Everything else you wrote is total dribble.

 

[Into The Black]

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