yep exactly. so much overrating of the list - which is driven by the media, and i can't help but think that drive originally comes from the club. I would think the coaching staff know exactly where you're at but the external noise is deafening. Rather than sack your coach as you have in the past, I really hope you're current admin can be strong and stay the course, and irrelevant of the win/loss record, give Voss and his list a chance to grow and develop together. Your list is almost there, but these things take time as does building connection etc.
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Opinion Is this where Carlton drops away? 2023 version
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Some Carlton supporters said they had a top 4 list ya know
This hilarious post from their autopsy thread after the Eagles game
Remember when you could score 60?
Remember when you could score 60?
You’ve got plenty of mates.Damn, that means I'm not a true footy supporter
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Yeah I had them winning 2 of the last 5.
History shows I was too bullish.
Disappointing considering they went the hardest of scorched earth rebuilds and their fans went through years of pain.
2023 should have been a finals year and a platform for sustained success. Instead they look like a middling side.
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I tend to agree. In an 18 team comp it's easy to write off 17 teams and look like the freaking oracle at the end of the day. Something isn't right, especially with how they were playing in the first half of 2022.
Their 8 and 2 record after 10 games in 2022 isn't as impressive as it seems when you consider they were yet to play 4 of the eventual top 5 teams - Geelong, Collingwood, Melbourne and Brisbane - by that stage of the season (and they lost all 5 games played against these teams once they eventually played them).
I mean.. the club make the list decisions they hope will make them more competitive, media will write what they like. Its not like Vossy is gonna call Robbo up and say hey whoa back there on the hype big fella, bizarre connection you've drawn there imo.
Hmm you may be falling into the same trap you say the club have here. I think the list is miles away personally.
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Yeah so on form they were probably a 6-10 team. Most people expected their trajectory to continue going up this season. Now they are playing like a 13-15 team.
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They look devoid of confidence. If they just get one win I get the feeling they can turn it around. If they can beat Gold Coast then they would get some confidence and back themselves in games such as Port/St Kilda at Marvel, Gold Coast away etc.
Like i've said, I think it's the faceless men of your club who do the pumping up to the media, nothing to do with the footy department.
And i'm certainly not falling into any trap. I dont think your list is premiership (or even top 4) material, but it's certainly better than your ladder position currently, hence why i thought at the start of the year they'd finish between 8-10. I just think your current players need more time with the coach, and talent wise you actually need to draft and develop more mids - not half back running types.
Port/St Kilda at Marvel, just no lol
If it was you might think there'd be a few stories with quotes from these blokes floating around?
Agree there, when I say miles away I mean from top 4/contending. But yep its not a bottom 4 list either, something is clearly very wrong in addition to the list composition.
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Right now I agree
What if you win the next 2, then go over to Freo and knock them off? 3 wins on the trot and 45K at Marvel cheering the boys on... anything can happen
I put my hand up and was thinking Carlton would be top 4.
Simply put, you would expect a side with two Coleman medalist, a brownlow medalist and their core players in their primate bracket would and should do much better than bottom 4.
Kinda the point mate - 'what if'.
Fantasy land imo, we will lose 2 of those games, all 3 most likely.
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Cause 22 a side, thats why.
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Never, playing so many Friday night games and losing them has been incredibly hard for the players and even worse for the supporters it just signals that they have been pushed forward prematurely by the AFL yet again despite the lack of success
Personally i think SoS is the main culprit in destroying Carltons list
His 66 game rebuild has really killed the list
Love to see a list of the picks he had and the players he brought into the club and which players remain after this season
Sos has been an utter failure as a list manager
His 66 game rebuild has really killed the list
Love to see a list of the picks he had and the players he brought into the club and which players remain after this season
Sos has been an utter failure as a list manager
beaten a few flat tracks
got the bottom 2 teams coming up, but also Dees, Port, Pies and Saints on the way home.
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