Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

[faible]

Yes, the majority of palestinian population within israel dont want to kill everyone in gaza. I recognise that. A minority of the jewish population do. That evaluation is supported by surveys.

And as I've noted previously, Israel's basic law states that Israel is a state for jews.

You're going down a very ugly path, one that I'd encourage others not to follow.

Israel is not all Jews. All Jews are not Israel.

Don't confuse the two.

 

[Saint]

Israel has completely obliterated the Syrian military capability "so it doesn't fall into the hands of terrorists".

Yet they are the ones who point to 1948 when the Arab armies attacked them as being a gross violation. All the leaders of the original IDF were declared terrorists.

Another case of OK for me, but not for thee. Killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people because of a theoretical threat posed by a Government which doesn't exist yet. And they'll be upset if the new Government is anti-Israel?!?!?!

Operation 'Bashan Arrow': IDF destroys over 350 Syrian Military targets

IDF says most of Syria's military capabilities were destroyed within 48 hours.

www.jpost.com

 

[Markfs]

On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates – the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." – Genesis 15:18–21

I will establish your borders from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea, and from the desert to the Euphrates River. I will give into your hands the people who live in the land, and you will drive them out before you. Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. Do not let them live in your land or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you." – Exodus 23:31–33

Seems the lord is worse at giving directions than my mother was.

I wonder where the hittites are hangiing out these days. We really need to get everyone in the middle east on an ancestry subscription so they can find out where their ancestors were 2000 years ago...

 

[peetoo]

I wonder where the hittites are hangiing out these days. We really need to get everyone in the middle east on an ancestry subscription so they can find out where their ancestors were 2000 years ago...

That sort of talk is suppressed in Israel and countries around

 

[QuietB]

Israel has completely obliterated the Syrian military capability "so it doesn't fall into the hands of terrorists".

Yet they are the ones who point to 1948 when the Arab armies attacked them as being a gross violation. All the leaders of the original IDF were declared terrorists.

Another case of OK for me, but not for thee. Killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people because of a theoretical threat posed by a Government which doesn't exist yet. And they'll be upset if the new Government is anti-Israel?!?!?!

Operation 'Bashan Arrow': IDF destroys over 350 Syrian Military targets

IDF says most of Syria's military capabilities were destroyed within 48 hours.

www.jpost.com

Israel are to the USA what the Wagner Group is to Russia.

Israel's ambitions do not clash with the USA so America does not care how many people Israel kills or how many countries it destroys. The list of countries the USA either has destroyed or tried to destroy is long.

Israel invading Syria wakens Russia and weakens Iran. So the USA says have at it - we'll supply the weapons.

Israel is basically nothing more than the USA's mercenary army in the Middle East.

 

[Markfs]

You're going down a very ugly path, one that I'd encourage others not to follow.

Israel is not all Jews. All Jews are not Israel.

Don't confuse the two.

Obviously, the israelis havent been told....

1. The State of Israel
a) Israel is the historical homeland of the Jewish people in which the state of Israel was established.
b) The state of Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, in which it actualizes its natural, religious, and historical right for self-determination.
c) The actualization of the right of national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.

Israel's Basic Laws: Israel - The Nation State of the Jewish People

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

And dont worry, your support of the israelis has been noted...

 

[Markfs]

That sort of talk is suppressed in Israel and countries around

well government ministers havent been suppressing themselves in recent times. I dont see anything controversial in it. It would be like a christian denying that his ultimate goal was to get to heaven. Do christians deny that Jesus was god? Some might but I would argue that it is fundamental to the religion, just as the promised land is fundamental to judaism. I see the Torah as a document which reveals what the israelis are trying to achieve in the middle east.

Having said that, I can understand why israel supporters like to keep it quiet. Talk of a 2 state solution within the context of a wider israel seems a bit ridiculous if you think about it.

 

[Markfs]

A significant proportion of americans are evangelicals. Evangeligals give money and support to israel because they believe that israel needs to establish its promised land, before jesus will return to earth for the second coming.

So the support for israel's territorial expansion is strong in the US. When joe biden says that he is a zionist, he means it. This goes far beyond the US wanting to control the oil fields or to counter Russia etc etc.

 

[peetoo]

well government ministers havent been suppressing themselves in recent times. I dont see anything controversial in it. It would be like a christian denying that his ultimate goal was to get to heaven. Do christians deny that Jesus was god? Some might but I would argue that it is fundamental to the religion, just as the promised land is fundamental to judaism. I see the Torah as a document which reveals what the israelis are trying to achieve in the middle east.

Having said that, I can understand why israel supporters like to keep it quiet. Talk of a 2 state solution within the context of a wider israel seems a bit ridiculous if you think about it.

About dna showing the lot of them are more closely related than they preach

 

[treeebeard]

On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates – the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." – Genesis 15:18–21

I will establish your borders from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea, and from the desert to the Euphrates River. I will give into your hands the people who live in the land, and you will drive them out before you. Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. Do not let them live in your land or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you." – Exodus 23:31–33

Seems the lord is worse at giving directions than my mother was.

Maybe God need to come back and clear up his messaging

 

[Markfs]

About dna showing the lot of them are more closely related than they preach

I dont understand that and I dont think dna is relevant...

 

[treeebeard]

You're going down a very ugly path, one that I'd encourage others not to follow.

Israel is not all Jews. All Jews are not Israel.

Don't confuse the two.

You'd better tell Dutton that because apparently asking Israel to stop occupying Palestine is an affront to all Jewish Australians.

 

[Markfs]

It's a bit like the last year, just when you think things cant get any worse, Dutton becomes PM and Australia is engaged in the next episode of the crusades...

 

[faible]

Obviously, the israelis havent been told....

1. The State of Israel
a) Israel is the historical homeland of the Jewish people in which the state of Israel was established.
b) The state of Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, in which it actualizes its natural, religious, and historical right for self-determination.
c) The actualization of the right of national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.

Israel's Basic Laws: Israel - The Nation State of the Jewish People

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

And dont worry, your support of the israelis has been noted...

As I said:

You're going down a very ugly path, one that I'd encourage others not to follow.

Israel is not all Jews. All Jews are not Israel.

Don't confuse the two.

 

[faible]

You'd better tell Dutton that because apparently asking Israel to stop occupying Palestine is an affront to all Jewish Australians.

Dutton is a moron. He does a disservice to the Jewish community by continually conflating Israel and all Jews, meaning other morons hold regular Jewish folk in Australia accountable for the actions of a rogue nation state.

It would be like blaming all Muslims in Australia for the actions of Iran.

 

[Markfs]

Here's another moron.....evidently they're growing on trees...

Mike Huckabee will be the new ambassador to Israel. He is evangelical.....

Mike Huckabee: There’s No ‘Occupation’, It’s the ‘Promised Land’​

Mike Huckabee: There’s No 'Occupation', It’s the 'Promised Land'

Soon-to-be U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee stated in an interview: "I oppose the two state solution, that's a position that Trump has held and I expect that he will continue to."

collive.com

 

[FreoRicci]

The Project

Jews or Israelis considering travelling to Australia are being told to "exercise extreme caution" after an arson on a synagogue was declared a likely terrorist attack.

www.facebook.com

Really? Australia, travel warning?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Obviously, the israelis havent been told....

1. The State of Israel
a) Israel is the historical homeland of the Jewish people in which the state of Israel was established.
b) The state of Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, in which it actualizes its natural, religious, and historical right for self-determination.
c) The actualization of the right of national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.

Israel's Basic Laws: Israel - The Nation State of the Jewish People

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

And dont worry, your support of the israelis has been noted...

The. Israelis have no right to speak on behalf of Jews who choose not to be there.

 

[Saint]

The Project

Jews or Israelis considering travelling to Australia are being told to "exercise extreme caution" after an arson on a synagogue was declared a likely terrorist attack.

www.facebook.com

Really? Australia, travel warning?

All of what the Israeli Govt does is for political reasons, not for safety reasons. They will lie, cheat and steal if they get a political benefit out of it.

 

[peetoo]

I dont understand that and I dont think dna is relevant...

I was responding to a poster who was definitely referring to dna

 

[Not Important]

I think we can do and be better than Netanyahu when we speak of such things.

‘Jews’ are not a homogenous entity where each member is responsible for the actions of a nation state any more than all Arabs should be the direct of hatred for the actions of extremist groups.

Netanyahu and co try to conflate the two in order to use antisemitism as a shield from legitimate criticism of a nation state. We’re smart enough to see through that and separate the two.

terrific post.

 

[Not Important]

pure and simple. and spot on

 

[Not Important]

the complicit u.s gov’t won’t arrest the creature charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. they are zionist bedfellows.

 

[Markfs]

pure and simple. and spot on

i'm still trying to work out how we're officially happy to have officially designated terrorists in charge in syria......and israel killing and starving children...although i've been instructed to ignore that

 

[Markfs]

I was responding to a poster who was definitely referring to dna

Fair enough.