News Jack Dyer Stand -Demolition Has Begun

[Aristotle Pickett]

How is it not valid? You clearly can’t fit any proper facilities there currently. We have the AFLW rooms in portables, I had better facilities at every ground I played at in the VAFA

You could base all the women and community programs elsewhere but the club has identified that having everyone in the same location builds the type of connection that has allowed our club to thrive. I think the positives of having that one club mentality far outweighs anything you get from a stand you can’t sit in

It's invalid because we aren't going to stop any programs.
At worst, the AFLW can have their meetings somewhere else.They've only been around 5 minutes anyway.

 

[Profop]

It's invalid because we aren't going to stop any programs.
At worst, the AFLW can have their meetings somewhere else.They've only been around 5 minutes anyway.

Yeah so you are putting an unusable stand above our AFLW team in terms of importance to the Richmond Football Club

Glad you’re not in charge

 

[Profop]

No it won’t that wouldn’t be allowed

I dunno looking at the plans it definitely looks like at least a bit of the existing car park is being turned into part of the building

 

[Tiger2709]

Do we really need this it doesn't really have much of its old look anymore, didn't the roof once have a tiger or something on it that you could see from the train, I seem to recall it back in my youth?

I remember going to the disco under the stand back in the day, that was grubby as hell.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Keep the stand and don't destroy Melbourne's history.
Richmond historian Rhett Bartlett, lift your game and do your job.

Get Ray Morgan involved.Do a Poll.
Bet hardly noone knows outside us would know what the JD stand stands for.
it maybe part of Richmond history but hardly Melbourne history.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Have you got a proper argument or are you just drinking a tinnie yelling 'knock it down'.
An American citizen like Peggy O'Neil should not be allowed to make a decision to destroy some important Melbourne history.

Underarm is right though.lol

 

[Tiges1229]

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Get Ray Morgan involved.Do a Poll.
Bet hardly noone knows outside us would know what the JD stand stands for.
it maybe part of Richmond history but hardly Melbourne history.

I don't think doing a poll for people who know eff all about the stand would have any weight.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Do we really need this it doesn't really have much of its old look anymore, didn't the roof once have a tiger or something on it that you could see from the train, I seem to recall it back in my youth?

I remember going to the disco under the stand back in the day, that was grubby as hell.

It looks much better than the bland concrete mess that could replace it.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I know it's all a joke to you but there are good people out their trying to preserve Melbourne's cultural heritage for future generations and Melbourne doesn't have a heap of preserved cultural heritage because we are a young country .

Outside us who knows about the stand?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Outside us who knows about the stand?

Everyone knows about it. You see it everytime you go to the MCG or drive down Punt rd.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I don't think doing a poll for people who know eff all about the stand would have any weight.

Which would be about 98% of Melbournians.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Everyone knows about it. You see it everytime you go to the MCG or drive down Punt rd.

They see a stand.
Just like they'll see the new one.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Which would be about 98% of Melbournians.

Lol no way Hose`

 

[DickieKnee]

Do we really need this it doesn't really have much of its old look anymore, didn't the roof once have a tiger or something on it that you could see from the train, I seem to recall it back in my youth?

I remember going to the disco under the stand back in the day, that was grubby as hell.

Check out that conduit work lol. Which sparky did that?

 

[PetterdHoisted]

What's the cost of keeping the stand and pursuing another option of equivalent value and function to the club, vs the current plan?

If this is even physically possible.

well I guess council will have the numbers, but generally it costs twice as much to build below ground than above ground.

It can cost 200k to build an underground carpark for a family home, imagine a four storey, commercial capacity version...!

 

[Muddiemoose]

Check out that conduit work lol. Which sparky did that?

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Have some respect that is heritage conduit

 

[SunshineBoy]

thread needs a poll

This

 

[theyellowsash]

Check out that conduit work lol. Which sparky did that?

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Thats pretty neat compared to what I see normally

 

[SunshineBoy]

Chill out guys and girls, one thing that hasn’t been spoken of , once they demolish the stand and start building an underground car park and all the centres for the various community groups are we going to relocate to craigeburn?

 

[theyellowsash]

None, but I accept the view of those experts who have studied it and worked in the area all their lives.
I know we live in the trump era but expert opinion still counts.

Are they the experts that say we can't fix the flinders st underpass because there are tiles with 'do not spit' on them, yet allow the palais theatre to be gutted and torn down?

 

[theyellowsash]

Not in architecture though or anything related to culture/history.

Yes architecture, including heritage/history/cultural studies, and currently a working regiatered architect having to deal with heritage preservation constantly.

Whats your expertise?

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Are they the experts that say we can't fix the flinders st underpass because there are tiles with 'do not spit' on them, yet allow the palais theatre to be gutted and torn down?

there will always be a balance between retention and renewal

but in Yarra Park precinct, renewal has won every battle so far, all the other old stadia are long gone

surely in this one instance we can retain the heritage structure, the score would still be 10-1 in favour of the bulldozers overall!

 

[theyellowsash]

there will always be a balance between retention and renewal

but in Yarra Park precinct, renewal has won every battle so far, all the other old stadia are long gone

surely in this one instance we can retain the heritage structure, the score would still be 10-1 in favour of the bulldozers overall!

Personally I am in favour of retention. My point is that we don't necessarily know why retaining it isn't viable, very likely there are significant structural etc issue which mean it couldn't be brought up to current safety and accessibility standards, without knocking it down and rebuilding it, or gutting it so completely that its barely there anymore anyway.

On face value I don't think its to do with the ground size, as its located on a flank not the ends, and the new building is aligned with it so logically if the stand had to go to increase the ground, so would the other buildings. Theres also room to the south to extent the ground.

 

[Tiger2709]

Can we take a photo of it and strategically place it on a billboard so it looks like its still there, or maybe just a hologram in the new museum?