Oppo Camp Jack Ginnivan (Traded to Hawks 2023)

[Jen2310]

Jack's focus in the off season should be getting as fit and strong as he can. So he'll come back day 1 of pre-season raring to go.
Another pre-season in the gym will do wonders too.

 

[JLC]

Worked at the Tunnel nightclub in the 80's. If people are struggling to handle Ginnivan's alleged indiscretion, they'd be having kittens if they knew what footy players got up to back then.

GW and Ned Kelly are both well versed with what happened in the late 80s and early 90s

I think in the AFL there is a pecking order. You can be a cowboy off field but need to be Buddy/Swanny, Wayne Carey or Dusty like in ability to get away with it.




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[Mollythedolly]

GW and Ned Kelly are both well versed with what happened in the late 80s and early 90s

I think in the AFL there is a pecking order. You can be a cowboy off field but need to be Buddy/Swanny, Wayne Carey or Dusty like in ability to get away with it.




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Clubs will remain supportive more often than not as long as they see potential in the player and there’s some level of remorse.

 

[Kappa]

For all the chatter, it's obvious the coaching staff don't rate Jack as a best 22 player this year, which is a concern for a 3rd year player. I assume he's contracted for next year, so will get more chances but has to improve his contested work and defensive efforts to make it.

 

[soreplums]

Leigh Matthews views on this last week just made it simple. Why has the game evolved where we make it much easier for the tackler, and harder for the player with the ball. The stupid interpretation of one of the fundamental rule of the game has made umpires jobs impossible and prone to error, which I believe Ginnivan has been the victim here.

Regardless of where the tackle starts, or if the player buckles his knees at the time of the tackle or any other stupid interpretation, if the tackle goes above the shoulder anytime, its a free kick to the player with the ball. Simple, clear cut, and black and white (excuse the pun)

Now of course players will try and draw free kicks - but so what. If the tackle goes above the shoulder its a free kick. We need to make it harder for the tackler, not the guy with the ball

I agree. Need to protect the player making the play. Tackler needs to earn a turnover

 

[soreplums]

Apparently been told he will have a month in the VFL

 

[leon123]

Apparently been told he will have a month in the VFL

We will see, if true, more to the story

I hope not though

 

[Jen2310]

A game in the vfl won't do him any harm. Has been out of form for a bit, low on confidence, so hopefully should help with that.
And looks like they are training him to play higher up the ground, and more around stoppages. Maybe this is a way to experiment that. A way to get him involved more.

Looking forward how he goes tomorrow. Hopefully kicks a couple.

 

[KinderSmock]

A game in the vfl won't do him any harm. Has been out of form for a bit, low on confidence, so hopefully should help with that.
And looks like they are training him to play higher up the ground, and more around stoppages. Maybe this is a way to experiment that. A way to get him involved more.

Looking forward how he goes tomorrow. Hopefully kicks a couple.

Will help for sure.

Apparently been told he will have a month in the VFL

Aligns with what I've heard/read. Professionalism is a key area of growth for Jack and there's only so long he can keep using the "I'm young" card. He's well-liked at the club, no question about that, but does like to party (as they all do).

 

[BigVic]

He is still a young man only 20. Give him time to develop.

 

[Bianconeri]

Apparently been told he will have a month in the VFL

That’s good, better than being the sub every second week.

 

[Kirby]

More unsubstantiated rumours.

“Apparently” - “I’ve heard”.

Yeah right!

 

[BigVic]

Get game time in the VFL and build his confidence

 

[TheFreshBinnivan]

Not disputing the validity of him spending time in VFL to improve aspects of his game or professionalism, but are people able to post how they heard/read this?

Even if it's an article you read online or whispers you've heard from someone in the know etc. Would be nice to have some context.

 

[soreplums]

Not disputing the validity of him spending time in VFL to improve aspects of his game or professionalism, but are people able to post how they heard/read this?

Even if it's an article you read online or whispers you've heard from someone in the know etc. Would be nice to have some context.

i didn’t take it that it was for punishment.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

We will see, if true, more to the story

I hope not though

There’s no story. He needs to work on his game and perhaps a different position. The main reason he’s not best 22 is Bobby Hill.

Kreuger was given the same “ month in the VFL “ story. It’s working a treat because he can build his confidence slowly knowing he doesn’t have to showboat to get picked next week.

 

[stormskye]

Attitude in the vfl game has been poor so far. He might be spending a long time in the vfl.

 

[legendstatus]

He is so far from AFL standard it ain’t funny, that said, so are a few of the known ones

Number 59 goes ok

Below- should we be concern ?

 

[sr36]

A game in the vfl won't do him any harm. Has been out of form for a bit, low on confidence, so hopefully should help with that.
And looks like they are training him to play higher up the ground, and more around stoppages. Maybe this is a way to experiment that. A way to get him involved more.

Looking forward how he goes tomorrow. Hopefully kicks a couple.

Good. The thing he needs to work on is his passing to teammates. It's sloppy. He doesn't wheel around - just does one step round the body stuff.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Good. The thing he needs to work on is his passing to teammates. It's sloppy. He doesn't wheel around - just does one step round the body stuff.

He's no midfielder I think. Forward goal sneak only.

 

[sr36]

He's no midfielder I think. Forward goal sneak only.

I don't think they want to play him that deep, as Cox and McStay are also slow. It'll leave us in trouble when the defence gets their hands on it.

 

[Kappa]

He is so far from AFL standard it ain’t funny, that said, so are a few of the known ones

Number 59 goes ok

Below- should we be concern ?

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Allan has been pretty poor since he got covid TBH, people talking him up way too much.

 

[Kappa]

A game in the vfl won't do him any harm. Has been out of form for a bit, low on confidence, so hopefully should help with that.
And looks like they are training him to play higher up the ground, and more around stoppages. Maybe this is a way to experiment that. A way to get him involved more.

Looking forward how he goes tomorrow. Hopefully kicks a couple.

He seems to play worse in the VFL and hasn't appeared to have a great attitude at this level. It could do him a lot of harm if he struggles to get his form back even at VFL level and sulks it up.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Allan has been pretty poor since he got covid TBH, people talking him up way too much.

Since covid he got the coaches points for best at Collingwood in one game.
Also a 17 disposal game after that.
Problem is we have midfielders and also wing doing OK.
He will get his chance eventually and with better players around him.

 

[Copeland]

Allan has been pretty poor since he got covid TBH, people talking him up way too much.

Remember all those ppl predicting him to be in the AFL round 1?