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Martin is uncontracted, GC hold the least amount of power, it's that simple
Delisted Jack Martin [Selected by Carlton in the PSD]
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I don't need to read a post
Martin is uncontracted, GC hold the least amount of power, it's that simple
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Why do opposition posters Feel the need to meddle/interfere in deals not involving their own clubs. This deal has nothing to do with the Crows, yet Adelaide fans keep on butting in (for example)
Unless Casboult triggered his contract clause he is an unrestricted free agent. Suns can get him for free and independently of Martin trade. Correct, Carlton fans?
Not that I heard Suns would be interested in Casboult.
He triggered the games based clause in his final game of the year.
Think whatever you like one way or another Martin is gone and if he doesn't end up at Carlton, he will be at another club
Suggesting otherwise is delusional.
Let that sink in
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Gold Coast hold no power.
Jack is out the door. The only unresolved and unknown is what return GCS will get.
It won't be a first without something very significant coming with him. It won't be a third as he is worth more than that.
He won't go into the PSD. Even if Jack did, GCS will never use a PSD pick to force him to stay. He'll walk out (McCarthy) or involve AFL mediation (Ryder).
Simple as that.
Jack is out the door. The only unresolved and unknown is what return GCS will get.
It won't be a first without something very significant coming with him. It won't be a third as he is worth more than that.
He won't go into the PSD. Even if Jack did, GCS will never use a PSD pick to force him to stay. He'll walk out (McCarthy) or involve AFL mediation (Ryder).
Simple as that.
Because they got fair value for both Lynch and GC were happy to trade May to move on from having to constantly have leadership problems , They wanted to keep May if he was prepared to commit to a longer deal.
I think if the shoe was on the other foot you would be demanding your club hold its ground, A deal will get done and it will be a fair price and neither club wants to screw the other as there will be Carlton players wanting to move in a few years time which normally happens for 1 reason or another.
Just a question if SPS was wanting to move what would you think a fair price for him would be if he was uncontracted
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Lol what? They went through this all before with O'Meara and got a top 10 pick + a future second rounder. O'Meara was coming off two season-ending knee injuries too.
You are delusional if you believe Gold Coast hold no power. Delusional.
I reckon Martin is worth half as much as Lyons but think Carlton should pay what the Lions payed for Lyons last year. How much was that? We should just pay it.
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I trust my club would get what they can and move on the player that doesn't want to be there.
I've got no idea what SPS is worth, if he had a few more games like the Bulldogs game a top 10 pick but he isn't consistent enough to be worth near that at the minute.
Not sure why people think a fair and reasonable deal won't be done for an uncontracted player
But if it doesn't and he doesn't end up at Carlton, GC can't stop him leaving, it is that simple
At a guess it's because most carlton posters on here seem to think they are entitled to another Settlefield, Kennedy, Pickett and Plowman type trade where they pay a very moderate price for a player that was very highly touted in his draft year. Martin has shown more then those 4 players at AFL level and you're still getting him on potential rather than actual output.
Correct, GC can't stop him leaving but they can determine which club he goes too, outside of Melbourne with pick 2 in the PSD.
All clubs pick the eyes out of each club, when it comes to undervalued talent, it's part of the strategy
GC have no power in determining where Martin goes, so even if a deal with Carlton falls over, unlikely, then Martin has a number of options
GC with limited control, only have 2 options, trade him for fair value, not overs, or lose him for nothing, which is extremely unlikely
JMHO, he will be traded for a total value in the 20-26 range
Which I have indicated many times, of course just an opinion, unlike most here, where their sticking point is one club will screw over the other
He is not worth a 1st rounder uncontracted, nor is he worth a 3rd with his talent
I know Casboult has been mentioned before but being a free agent has he re signed ? I have read he has a extension trigger in his contract but these things still need to be activated by the player agreeing to stay. If he was to be traded why would he agree and not just go as a free agent which would give him a choice of club and possibly more money.
They do though. If Gold Coast decide they don't want to trade him to carlton, for whatever reason, he doesn't get traded there. That's fact. To try and dictate that a team has no say in where one of their players goes, is factually incorrect, unless that player is a unrestricted free agent or delisted free agent. Martin is neither. You can talk all you like about probabilities and likelihood, but Gold Coast have a hand in where he goes, should they so choose.
Yes, Gold Coast have limited control, but control nonetheless. carlton must trade a value that Gold Coast is happy to accept for the trade to be done. If carlton offer something that they are not happy with, it is still Gold Coasts decision whether they accept that deal.
They are all givens though, I just can't see where a deal falls over
One way or another, GC lose Martin, so in that aspect they have limited to no control in keeping him
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Their options are trade with Carlton or lose him for nothing. If you think they have the balance of power then I dont think I can help you.
