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Traded Jackson Macrae: To Saints p/of 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB
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Reckon this is an excellent result all-round.
Macrae gets to play midfield, Dogs get his excessively high and long contract off their books and get a cheaper version of him- for a fraction of the contract size and length- and we get someone who will be a big help for us for probably a year or two- albeit on said excessively high and long contract.
All that said, if I’d known we could have gotten Kennedy for just 7 picks higher than Macrae, I would have preferred him. In particular because of his vastly more appropriate contract.
For that reason, the Dogs IMO ought to be very pleased with the overall result of the Macrae and Kennedy trades.
Macrae gets to play midfield, Dogs get his excessively high and long contract off their books and get a cheaper version of him- for a fraction of the contract size and length- and we get someone who will be a big help for us for probably a year or two- albeit on said excessively high and long contract.
All that said, if I’d known we could have gotten Kennedy for just 7 picks higher than Macrae, I would have preferred him. In particular because of his vastly more appropriate contract.
For that reason, the Dogs IMO ought to be very pleased with the overall result of the Macrae and Kennedy trades.
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Dogs knocked back 47 straight up for Macrae only to trade him for a guy who was going to be delisted?
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Yeah I don't think they are
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The exact reason I'm in this thread
Very happy with this trade. Now throw him in the midfield only next year.
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Worked out in the end. I said a week ago it would be 47, so can't gloat too much, but glad that Jack is on board at the Saints and Bailey and Matt got new starts at the same time.
Saints v Dogs round 1 next year for Macrae's 250th, surely ...
Saints v Dogs round 1 next year for Macrae's 250th, surely ...
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Hmmmmm.
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Reckon Macrae will get disrespected by the AFL and they'll schedule Geelong vs Dogs round 1 so Bailey can play against his old team first up on return from injury
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Ive been out all day so haven’t seen or heard anything but think that’s because they have such an emotional attachment to him.
If he was some random bloke for another club that they could have gotten for nothing, but was going to cost them $800K x 2 and then a chunk of coin in a 3rd year- that they probably wouldn’t need him for- to just be a fringe/depth player, they wouldn’t have wanted to touch him with a barge pole.
But because that same exact guy was a favourite son of theirs, they thought he was worth the world. Or wanted to keep him and his crazy contract.
They aren’t thinking with their heads. This is good business.
Will always be a premiership hero. For a bloke who doesn’t kick many goals he kicked a few memorable clutch ones for us over the journey.
Getting the much better fit in Kennedy and moving off his salary entirely was a pretty good result.
Getting the much better fit in Kennedy and moving off his salary entirely was a pretty good result.
The only correct thing you posted in this entire thread!
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It’s not exactly a loss either macrae was surplus to the dogs need . Kennedy not a star but his a good solid player attacks the contest wins the ball at worst his a good backup in case of injury
You must be easily pleased then
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We were likely spending upwards of $2M per season on Smith, Macrae and Daniel. I assume Kennedy is on around 500k so freeing up 1.5M, replacing Macrae with a cheaper younger version and getting picks 17 and 25 for Smith and CD is probably a win all round for us.
It’s sad seeing premiership players leave the club but it’s sadder knowing they’re wasting their careers in the 2s.
Clearly if circumstances were different we’d get more for Smith but we got the most we could realistically expect given nobody would’ve grabbed him in the draft anyway.
It’s sad seeing premiership players leave the club but it’s sadder knowing they’re wasting their careers in the 2s.
Clearly if circumstances were different we’d get more for Smith but we got the most we could realistically expect given nobody would’ve grabbed him in the draft anyway.
Why wouldn’t I be?
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Good on you Saints, got a him on a good deal. Hope he manages to get a few more years out of him. He is the ultimate professional.
As for some of you. No need to be classless pricks with your trolling, whether via reacts or directly. Spent an hour out the house, come back to a dozen alerts from just 15, all from Saints fans who took a comment saying I think Macrae is worth a pissy 6 more picks than he actually went for. Obsessed much.
Don't forget how bad your own trading has been in recent years. Before you troll others in an attempt to be relevant.
Look after Macrae, maybe you could learn a thing or two from him about humility from him
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So in the end we got Macrae for moving back from pick 27 to 32 (we got 32 and 45 for 27).
As things stand right now, pick 32 could move all the way back up to 28 (as multiple clubs with picks in the 27-32 range right now could need to use them to match earlier FS or academy bids), so we got lucky being able to do that pick swap.
Pick 45 will also potentially move up into even the late 30’s, and it’s widely regarded that a pick around 40 this year could be equivalent to a pick around 30 in recent drafts, so for the Dogs fans who don’t think they got enough for Macrae, would you have been upset if you got around pick 30 for him, if this was like recent drafts?
45 doesn’t sound great, as traditionally it’s been considered a “junk pick”, but in a draft as deep as this, and once it moves up after earlier picks get swallowed up in bid matching, it’s likely to be far from “junk”.
As things stand right now, pick 32 could move all the way back up to 28 (as multiple clubs with picks in the 27-32 range right now could need to use them to match earlier FS or academy bids), so we got lucky being able to do that pick swap.
Pick 45 will also potentially move up into even the late 30’s, and it’s widely regarded that a pick around 40 this year could be equivalent to a pick around 30 in recent drafts, so for the Dogs fans who don’t think they got enough for Macrae, would you have been upset if you got around pick 30 for him, if this was like recent drafts?
45 doesn’t sound great, as traditionally it’s been considered a “junk pick”, but in a draft as deep as this, and once it moves up after earlier picks get swallowed up in bid matching, it’s likely to be far from “junk”.
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maybe he is bringing some of that 2016 umpire defying magic with him.
