Confirmed Jackson Macrae: To Saints p/of 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Makeshift Park]

Its the terms/ years isn't it

700k-ish x 3 ain't no biggie so long as you're playing him most of the time.

Problem for WB is, they weren't, so it was a poor allocation of their salary cap. See also Caleb Daniel.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

under the new cba I dont think 700k is even that big a deal for either club. We've got new contracts to get done next year but we're also about to have a Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

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185cm

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86kg

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18.3

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8.5

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9.8

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2.3

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3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

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19.8

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9.6

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10.2

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1.8

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3.2

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14.8

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7.6

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7.2

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2.0

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3.4

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1.6

4star

sized hole in the slary cap in case nobody has noticed. Can't see us being under too much pressure.

That said I'd rather see Jack somewhere playing regular footy

 

[MarcMaverick]

I wouldn’t have a clue just going by what the media have said that it’s not a salty cap issue

I mean it does hit one of the taste sensation. Now all that's left is the spicy cap the, the bitter cap, the sour cap and the sweet cap

 

[MarcMaverick]

under the new cba I dont think 700k is even that big a deal for either club. We've got new contracts to get done next year but we're also about to have a Bailey Smith sized hole in the slary cap in case nobody has noticed. Can't see us being under too much pressure.

That said I'd rather see Jack somewhere playing regular footy

Would you like seeing him play for Melb?

 

[Bulldogs85]

I mean it does hit one of the taste sensation. Now all that's left is the spicy cap the, the bitter cap, the sour cap and the sweet cap

LOL my mistake just fixed it

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

Would you like seeing him play for Melb?

let's not get carried away, I love Jack but a man can only take so much

 

[Makeshift Park]

under the new cba I dont think 700k is even that big a deal for either club. We've got new contracts to get done next year but we're also about to have a Bailey Smith sized hole in the slary cap in case nobody has noticed. Can't see us being under too much pressure.

That said I'd rather see Jack somewhere playing regular footy

Herald Sun 2024 figures from last weekend:

Naughton - $1m
Bont - $1m
Treloar - 950k
English - 900k
Macrae - 700k
Daniel - 700k
Dale - 700k

There's $6 million.

The 2024 salary cap is $15,788,222.

Then you've got Darcy, JUH, Libba, and 34 other players to cover.

Ain't no way your cap is under no pressure.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

Herald Sun 2024 figures from last weekend:

Naughton - $1m
Bont - $1m
Treloar - 950k
English - 900k
Macrae - 700k
Daniel - 700k
Dale - 700k

There's $6 million.

The 2024 salary cap is $15,788,222.

Then you've got Darcy, JUH, Libba, and 34 other players to cover.

Ain't no way your cap is under no pressure.

why on earth would Trreloar be taking 950 of cap when for starters collingwood are still paying a bunch of his salary

 

[Makeshift Park]

why on earth would Trreloar be taking 950 of cap when for starters collingwood are still paying a bunch of his salary

ok, fair enough, they're paying $1.5m over 5 years, so you're paying Treloar ~650k a year.

even still, that leaves an average of about 250k a year for each of the remaining 30 players in your squad. its SFA mate.

 

[MarcMaverick]

let's not get carried away, I love Jack but a man can only take so much

TBF I think he deserves the top billing and not Smith.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

ok, fair enough, they're paying $1.5m over 5 years, so you're paying Treloar ~650k a year.

even still, that leaves an average of about 250k a year for each of the remaining 30 players in your squad. its SFA mate.

Even if their list is semi-accurate I'm not sure we stack up that much different to most other clubs in it anyway. Having a quick browse through.

We're also pretty old, we're going to have money coming back into the pie soon enough via Libba, maybe Treloar in a couple. Jones etc

Next year we'll be looking at a decent raise for Ed Richards. Possibly a huge one for Darcy, and there's not a lot else pressing us after signing so many this year

 

[Makeshift Park]

Even if their list is semi-accurate I'm not sure we stack up that much different to most other clubs in it anyway. Having a quick browse through.

We're also pretty old, we're going to have money coming back into the pie soon enough via Libba, maybe Treloar in a couple. Jones etc

Next year we'll be looking at a decent raise for Ed Richards. Possibly a huge one for Darcy, and there's not a lot else pressing us after signing so many this year

All I'm saying is that I can't imagine you're in a position to be spending 700k a year on a bloke who spends half the year in the VFL.

Its not worth a salary dump, but I think other parties would have their eyes open to the fact it's better the money is off your books.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Herald Sun 2024 figures from last weekend:

Naughton - $1m
Bont - $1m
Treloar - 950k
English - 900k
Macrae - 700k
Daniel - 700k
Dale - 700k

There's $6 million.

The 2024 salary cap is $15,788,222.

Then you've got Darcy, JUH, Libba, and 34 other players to cover.

Ain't no way your cap is under no pressure.

It’s not under pressure and that has come from Sam Edmund

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

I agree, it's far from ideal. i dont think anyone wants that much money sitting in the vfl/sub vest

 

[Makeshift Park]

It’s not under pressure and that has come from Sam Edmund

Maybe not in 2024, but Sam Darcy's contract runs out next year.

I expect his contract will be long term and easily exceed $1m a year, and rightfully so.

JUH the year after. Reckon he'll stick around for much less than $1m a year?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Maybe not in 2024, but Sam Darcy's contract runs out next year.

I expect his contract will be long term and easily exceed $1m a year, and rightfully so.

We have Bont , Darcy and Richards out of contract next year so no doubt we will have to free some salary cap space

 

[GoRoos2023]

Plays like a pseudo tall most of his goals are from marks not crumbing

 

[Significant]

I agree, it's far from ideal. i dont think anyone wants that much money sitting in the vfl/sub vest

It's a salary dump, not because you can't take on his salary, but that it's a poor allocation of your TPP on a resource that has been identified as surplus and not prioritised in front of others.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

We have Bont , Darcy and Richards out of contract next year so no doubt we will have to free some salary cap space

Bont probably not looking at a pay increase really though. He's already got it
The other money we might need is trying to get JUH to sign early or extensions for guys like Freijah, Sanders but they wont take effect until later anyway

 

[Foxman98]

You suggested we are stacked in every position this simply isn’t true

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Would be happy to get both Parker and Macrae to add some decent experience.

Not sure we beat the saints out on this one. Trade value is an interesting element given the contract.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

Macrae adding some experience and Parker for the same and some leadership up forward would be great for North I think. You've got enough youth and pace to put around Macrae he'd be able to play to his strengths of just winning the footy for you. Take a bit of pressure off LDU.

 

[bobs head soup]

700k-ish x 3 ain't no biggie so long as you're playing him most of the time.

Problem for WB is, they weren't, so it was a poor allocation of their salary cap. See also Caleb Daniel.

They weren't playing Macrae most of the time? He missed the early games due to preseason injury but still played 19 games for the season.

 

[Makeshift Park]

They weren't playing Macrae most of the time? He missed the early games due to preseason injury but still played 19 games for the season.

Been a sub 4 times this season so far, including in your EF.

You reckon it'll be less next year?

 

[Significant]

They weren't playing Macrae most of the time? He missed the early games due to preseason injury but still played 19 games for the season.

Also playing him out of position, and with talented highly drafted youngsters not being able to even make the emergency list. You've moved last him, and the industry knows it.