Oppo Camp Jaidyn Stephenson (Traded to Nth Melb. 2020)

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My point, that everyone is throwing a hissy fit about, is that our recruiting is reckless. We are not in a position to be taking risks, because we have already screwed our list doing the same thing in the past.

Clearly his heart condition is enough of a concern for other clubs not to consider him.

Too many of you are deluded.

Edit: My 4am ramble boils down to this:

Unless you know all the facts, which none of us do, you're guessing.

Trust the club or don't.
 
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My point, that everyone is throwing a hissy fit about, is that our recruiting is reckless. We are not in a position to be taking risks, because we have already screwed our list doing the same thing in the past.

Clearly his heart condition is enough of a concern for other clubs not to consider him.

Too many of you are deluded.


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I think with Elliot missing a few early games this year. I think he may play round 1. Start his career off like Daniel Rioli as a small forward, and then move into the midfield from there. His perceived pressure in the forward line will definitely help.
 
I'm not concerned about Stephenson's heart "condition".

The most thing i'm concerned about is that he is a terrible kick and bad decision maker. Hopefully he isn't Turnover Adams Mark II. We have enough midfield ball butchers as is.
 
My point, that everyone is throwing a hissy fit about, is that our recruiting is reckless. We are not in a position to be taking risks, because we have already screwed our list doing the same thing in the past.

Clearly his heart condition is enough of a concern for other clubs not to consider him.

Too many of you are deluded.

How can you definitively say that other clubs didn't consider him?? He was always rated around the pick 4-6 mark, which is exactly where he ended up going. Reading Cal Twomey's phantom drafts and he said that he would not likely make it past the first round. There were only 4 clubs with a pick before us, so it's impossible to say that other clubs did not consider him. Someone would have definitely taken him I think.
 
How can you definitively say that other clubs didn't consider him?? He was always rated around the pick 4-6 mark, which is exactly where he ended up going. Reading Cal Twomey's phantom drafts and he said that he would not likely make it past the first round. There were only 4 clubs with a pick before us, so it's impossible to say that other clubs did not consider him. Someone would have definitely taken him I think.

He was tipped for sometime to go to North with Pick 4
 
It’s ironic how people are up in arms about us selecting Stephenson – citing risk associated with his heart condition – which is relatively unknown.

Funnily enough, the same people wanted us to select Darcy Fogarty.

Quick reality check…
  • Stephenson played 20 games this year across TAC Cup (15 out of 18), Nationals (4 out of 4), and All-Star (1 out of 1).
  • Fogarty played 9 games this year across SANFL Colts (5 out of 17), Nationals (4 out of 4)
 

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It’s ironic how people are up in arms about us selecting Stephenson – citing risk associated with his heart condition – which is relatively unknown.

Funnily enough, the same people wanted us to select Darcy Fogarty.

Quick reality check…
  • Stephenson played 20 games this year across TAC Cup (15 out of 18), Nationals (4 out of 4), and All-Star (1 out of 1).
  • Fogarty played 9 games this year across SANFL Colts (5 out of 17), Nationals (4 out of 4)

Are you able to provide proof of your generalisation? I personally think there’s a very big difference between Fogarty’s well established meniscus tear and Stephenson’s completely unknown heart ailment.
 
Agree re comparison to Danger but it’s hard to compare established star to an 18 year old. Others have pointed out Danger was skinny at same age and he obviously had limitations that saw him go at pick 10. I also suspect that with JS being a 2.95sec 20m that Danger would be faster than him (but on checking his draft combine result Danger was 2.92sec so not a big difference http://www.topendsports.com/sport/afl/testing-draft-results-2007.htm

Even if JS doesn’t end up like Dangerfield I’m more than happy for him to be like Peter Matera, as others have suggested in this thread! If he’s ‘only’ a WHE level than we still filled a list need.

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Danger had much bigger frame to work with and wasn't that skinny anyway.

But I digress my initial comment had a dash of sarcasm in merely pointing out his body is a long way off it in terms of AFL readiness, with further thinking on it being that his role will likely be a line breaking more outsider at first he could potentially play year 1 like Dale Thomas did despite being a stick.
 
Are you able to provide proof of your generalisation? I personally think there’s a very big difference between Fogarty’s well established meniscus tear and Stephenson’s completely unknown heart ailment.

With the utmost respect, I don't have time to go back and match quotes to prove my point.

My point remains - Darcy Fogarty battled with a minor injury throughout the year, missed games and struggled with form.

That would worry me as a recruiter - with the rigours of AFL you need to manage that.
 
But I digress my initial comment had a dash of sarcasm in merely pointing out his body is a long way off it in terms of AFL readiness, with further thinking on it being that his role will likely be a line breaking more outsider at first he could potentially play year 1 like Dale Thomas did despite being a stick.

Yeah. I be Shocked IF we started him On-Ball. He be Winger/HFF in 1st Few Seasons and he could do that from RD 1
 
Yeah later in the thread after thinking on it and past skinny blokes who played year one I reconsidered but since you haven't got there yet...

Hine already said he's ready to play straight away - and I agree.

Lachlan Whitfield played 19 games in his first year, McCluggage 18 - both similar build.
 
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