Traded Jordan Clark and F4 traded to Fremantle for #22 and F3 (Carl)

[CatToTheFuture]

Will either turn out to be better than Cerra or a total bust.

What if Cerra turns into a bust?

 

[year of the cat]

Maybe, I don't buy that Fremantle would be so inept that they would go away and trade for 22 just assuming Geelong would accept it. It might be a completely unrelated trade but it doesn't feel that way.

Sounds to me far more likely that Freo just want to improve their draft position and offer the lesser pick to Geelong, hoping it’s acceptable.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Clark should come out and explain what Geelong promised him to get him to re-sign last time. Burn some bridges.

He signed a long contract in his first year of the back of brilliant football and a solid run of games. It's still the same contract

 

[perplexed]

He signed a long contract in his first year of the back of brilliant football and a solid run of games. It's still the same contract

Oops. Thought he resigned last year. There you go.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If Geelong didn't indicate that they would accept pick 22 then why did Fremantle go away and trade for it? 27 + F3 -> 22 is an odd trade on day two unless it was for a specific purpose.

It's a pretty reasonable pick swap in isolation anyway. Need not be tied to any alleged agreement.

Unfortunately I think the negotiations are basically over and we'll take 22. You guys are getting and absolute steal

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Oops. Thought he resigned last year. There you go.

Yeah it was a big contract for a first year player. They were really excited about him

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Sounds to me far more likely that Freo just want to improve their draft position and offer the lesser pick to Geelong, hoping it’s acceptable.

Sounds to me like the trade for 22 is basically done but either Geelong are waiting to see if anything else shakes loose or it’s being postponed for drama. We seem pretty adamant on not trading 19

 

[MadMundy]

It's simple, either Geelong buckle and accept pick 22 or we just call the deal off and come back next year to get him cheaper. The bastards are lucky they're even being offered that, I'd say pick 22 is overs for a guy like Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

, pick 27 was perfect.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

It's simple, either Geelong buckle and accept pick 22 or we just call the deal off and come back next year to get him cheaper. The bastards are lucky they're even being offered that, I'd say pick 22 is overs for a guy like Jordan Clark, pick 27 was perfect.

Pick 22 will be accepted I think but you're getting a player far above anything available with 22 in this draft.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Pick 22 is way overs for Clark on exposed form.

Beats me why Geelong are being so stubborn about this, it's a great deal for them.

 

[Scotland]

Pick 22 is way overs for Clark on exposed form.

Beats me why Geelong are being so stubborn about this, it's a great deal for them.

Geelong are complete knobs about players they want to keep.

He signed a long contract in his first year of the back of brilliant football and a solid run of games. It's still the same contract

Semantics but he would've signed a 2 year extension as his first 2 years are locked in at draftee base wage. Pretty common practice now for clubs to re-sign early draft picks in their first season, generally before their form warrants a big contract and to keep prying eyes away. Clark is an odd case because he showed more in his first season than since. We did the same with Brander and he showed nothing in his first season and marginally more than nothing sense. The hope is that you get someone like Walsh who is a gun in their first few years and you end up paying them under market value for a period.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Geelong are complete knobs about players they want to keep.



Semantics but he would've signed a 2 year extension as his first 2 years are locked in at draftee base wage. Pretty common practice now for clubs to re-sign early draft picks in their first season, generally before their form warrants a big contract and to keep prying eyes away. Clark is an odd case because he showed more in his first season than since. We did the same with Brander and he showed nothing in his first season and marginally more than nothing sense. The hope is that you get someone like Walsh who is a gun in their first few years and you end up paying them under market value for a period.

Ah I miscounted years. Still, they were super excited about him.

 

[PeasFC]

Takes away returning to Geelong as an option. Cuts his price and ensures a trade.

I know managers advise against this, but there is a time and a place. Geelong have treated him like crap, he shouldn't be afraid to say it.

this is such rubbish. Isn’t there a ccj board where you can invest some energy. Alley board even?

the cats haven’t treated him like shit at all. They drafted him. Played him lots year 1 until he got injured. Offered him an extension on his contract last year. Named him round 1 this year and dropped him when his performances did not warrant a game. He looks to me like a kid who through injury and covid has struggled to give it his best crack. He’s not demanding a trade but would like to go to freo if possible. Didn’t demand a trade last year either. Hardly think any of this amounts to being treated like shit.

 

[perplexed]

this is such rubbish. Isn’t there a ccj board where you can invest some energy. Alley board even?

the cats haven’t treated him like sh*t at all. They drafted him. Played him lots year 1 until he got injured. Offered him an extension on his contract last year. Named him round 1 this year and dropped him when his performances did not warrant a game. He looks to me like a kid who through injury and covid has struggled to give it his best crack. He’s not demanding a trade but would like to go to freo if possible. Didn’t demand a trade last year either. Hardly think any of this amounts to being treated like sh*t.

I heard the backline coach wouldn't let him play in his best position ..coz, reasons.. and the senior coach agreed. Then, after telling him he has to play wing, they recruited a veteran wing and mid to play there instead. All the while telling him he was a valued and special player.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

What a bag of dick eaters

 

[strauchnyy]

It's simple, either Geelong buckle and accept pick 22 or we just call the deal off and come back next year to get him cheaper. The bastards are lucky they're even being offered that, I'd say pick 22 is overs for a guy like Jordan Clark, pick 27 was perfect.

100% hope Geelong keep Clark if freo offer 22 (24). Hope you’re right

 

[Wally Walpamur]

On the Hard Ball Gets podcast today. Clark has already moved boxes of his stuff back to Perth and his car is on a train. He has not enjoyed his time at Geelong and it’s too far gone. Even if he’s contracted, he ain’t going back. He’ll sit a year out.

 

[rgauci]

For starters, I don't think the sentence makes sense.

But we have Benning as a promising NGA prospect in a position of need (ruck/forward). Bid in the top 20 and we can't match. Picks 21-40 and we would need to use our next pick(s) to match. Pick 41 onwards and he is essentially free. I think that's how it works (not sure about the pick 40 changeover).

It seems extremely unlikely anyone will bid on Benning early enough to cause a problem, so it is probably a moot point. But you never know. Carlton bid on Henry out of spite and screwed us over. If we gave up 19 (which will be 21), it would be a shambles if someone bids on Benning at 21/22/23.

You realize we don’t have to match. He’s a cat B talent. Someone might bid at the end of the draft to force us to contract him for 2 years. But again, we might just pass if they do that.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Same here too. Nathan Schmook suggested in a podcast that Freo may just walk away. Says the clubs seem too far apart and we have several WA interests in this years draft and so we might be better off holding on to our picks.

Sounding like the walk way is on the cards. My personal read is its 50/50.

thank god for that. We want to keep him so hence the pick 19 or no deal.

hopefully freo walks off and geelong keeps him. The club doesn’t want him to leave.

I would honestly rather trade him next year for whatever

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Wait until they get 13 from GWS and we snatch that one instead. They should just be thankful we don't do what we did to WCE and take ALL their draft picks.

Wowee, you do realise that nothing that the precious little football club you support has ever achieved, has had anything to do with prowess on your behalf?
The manner in which people like you speak just literally cracks me up! You made a conscious decision to support a football club that has some success in its history, and now you gleefully act as if you can somehow laud over supporters of other football clubs, all the while speaking in third person, as if you played a hand in any past glories. I look forward to your discourse, which will no doubt commence with, "Nice melt" bahahahaha.

 

[Warhorse]

I heard the backline coach wouldn't let him play in his best position ..coz, reasons.. and the senior coach agreed. Then, after telling him he has to play wing, they recruited a veteran wing and mid to play there instead. All the while telling him he was a valued and special player.

Some truth to this unfortunately

 

[CatToTheFuture]

On the Hard Ball Gets podcast today. Clark has already moved boxes of his stuff back to Perth and his car is on a train. He has not enjoyed his time at Geelong and it’s too far gone. Even if he’s contracted, he ain’t going back. He’ll sit a year out.

Or he got word that the deal is done and he is good to go.

 

[year of the cat]

On the Hard Ball Gets podcast today. Clark has already moved boxes of his stuff back to Perth and his car is on a train. He has not enjoyed his time at Geelong and it’s too far gone. Even if he’s contracted, he ain’t going back. He’ll sit a year out.

AFL won’t want another Cam McCarthy situation playing out if that’s the case. A deal will get done.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

On the Hard Ball Gets podcast today. Clark has already moved boxes of his stuff back to Perth and his car is on a train. He has not enjoyed his time at Geelong and it’s too far gone. Even if he’s contracted, he ain’t going back. He’ll sit a year out.

Gotta love made up speculation in trade week. Fish and chip wrapper stuff.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

I can’t wait for this to go through for 22

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I can’t wait for this to go through for 22

It either will or they're waiting to see if they can squeeze some extra value out of barging in on a trade for Lobb. There will be a back pocket trade option right now that both agree on for 22 but, to be honest GWS owes us a solid for the Cameron trade. Got them the pieces they needed for Collingwoods 1st plus players, and drew down their cap preventing any fire sales.