Traded Jordan Clark and F4 traded to Fremantle for #22 and F3 (Carl)

[CatToTheFuture]

Will either turn out to be better than Cerra or a total bust.

What if Cerra turns into a bust?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I Googled key words from your post and found nothing. Would it kill you to link it? Or does it just not exist?

Cats coach defends ageing list, youth policy after blowout

Chris Scott says the alternative to his veteran side is to “play a few more (kids) and finish in the bottom four” as he defends his list profile after Geelong’s prelim smashing.

www.perthnow.com.au

Cobbler for the love God man...

Alternatively:

Coach Takeaways: Preliminary Final

The key takeaways from coach Chris Scott's post-match press conference

www.geelongcats.com.au

 

[tonygeeks]

Why wouldn’t Geelong try to fleece Freo ?

We are the town bike of trade week

Kerry Packer said “ you only get one Allan Bond in your life“ but the best thing about Freo for other teams is we show up every year numping it up


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[Cobbler]

Cats coach defends ageing list, youth policy after blowout

Chris Scott says the alternative to his veteran side is to “play a few more (kids) and finish in the bottom four” as he defends his list profile after Geelong’s prelim smashing.

www.perthnow.com.au

Cobbler for the love God man...

Alternatively:

Coach Takeaways: Preliminary Final

The key takeaways from coach Chris Scott's post-match press conference

www.geelongcats.com.au

Sorry. But thanks.

 

[foxdog50]

I know his going. But why hasn't there been any official word from all party's involved saying he wants to be traded?

 

[Cobbler]

I know his going. But why hasn't there been any official word from all party's involved saying he wants to be traded?

Probably because of current gap in worth. Becomes difficult if you come out and say ‘trade me’ then it doesn’t happen.

Just my thoughts.

 

[cats_09]

I Googled key words from your post and found nothing. Would it kill you to link it? Or does it just not exist?

Same, and even in the article it's not like he said playing Clark & Narkle would mean bottom 4

“It’s the price you pay playing at a successful club as a young player,” he said.

“There is a different alternative, play a few more and finish in the bottom four.

“I’m not going to say this is definitively our strategy but I think it’s very underrated, if you do use history as a guide, the dominant Geelong teams through the end of the first decade of this century played a lot of VFL footy.

“There’s a strong argument to say it’s good grounding to play your best football in your early 20s. Every case is different.”

Sounds more like he talks about young players being made to earn their spot, alternately we can play them before they're ready but that's not necessarily the best option for player or club

Cats coach defends ageing list, youth policy after blowout

Chris Scott says the alternative to his veteran side is to “play a few more (kids) and finish in the bottom four” as he defends his list profile after Geelong’s prelim smashing.

www.perthnow.com.au

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Cats coach defends ageing list, youth policy after blowout

Chris Scott says the alternative to his veteran side is to “play a few more (kids) and finish in the bottom four” as he defends his list profile after Geelong’s prelim smashing.

www.perthnow.com.au

Cobbler for the love God man...

Alternatively:

Coach Takeaways: Preliminary Final

The key takeaways from coach Chris Scott's post-match press conference

www.geelongcats.com.au

Ah thanks for that Snuffaluphagus

Cobbler - I think you'll find the reason I didn't recognise your comment is that he's clearly making a generalisation about all lists. He's not specifically saying that if we play x player we end up worse. The same release also says that he's been comfortable playing players that he sees as afl level players in the 2s because they'll be better for it long term.

 

[Cobbler]

Same, and even in the article it's not like he said playing Clark & Narkle would mean bottom 4




Sounds more like he talks about young players being made to earn their spot, alternately we can play them before they're ready but that's not necessarily the best option for player or club

Cats coach defends ageing list, youth policy after blowout

Chris Scott says the alternative to his veteran side is to “play a few more (kids) and finish in the bottom four” as he defends his list profile after Geelong’s prelim smashing.

www.perthnow.com.au

To say bottom 4 is simply him trying to justify it, it’s a ridiculous comment that both undermines the majority of the team but also ridicules the youngsters.

You can easily find a balance.

But if not, then be defined by the result. It’s not a negative IMO. I’d certainly rather be in Cats camp then Freo when it comes to past 20 years BUT I’d certainly rather be Freo now.

Cats cliff is spectacularly large.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Same, and even in the article it's not like he said playing Clark & Narkle would mean bottom 4




Sounds more like he talks about young players being made to earn their spot, alternately we can play them before they're ready but that's not necessarily the best option for player or club

Cats coach defends ageing list, youth policy after blowout

Chris Scott says the alternative to his veteran side is to “play a few more (kids) and finish in the bottom four” as he defends his list profile after Geelong’s prelim smashing.

www.perthnow.com.au

He's clearly making a generalision about list management in general.

 

[cats_09]

To say bottom 4 is simply him trying to justify it, it’s a ridiculous comment that both undermines the majority of the team but also ridicules the youngsters.

You can easily find a balance.

But if not, then be defined by the result. It’s not a negative IMO. I’d certainly rather be in Cats camp then Freo when it comes to past 20 years BUT I’d certainly rather be Freo now.

Cats cliff is spectacularly large.

And yet as has been repeatedly shown by Scott and the match committee, they're more than happy to select youngsters in the best 22 when the youngster has earned selection

 

[Cobbler]

He's clearly making a generalision about list management in general.

Well yeah it’s a generalisation, but when it’s in response to critics talking about age it’s a fairly dumb comment.

Anyway, it was said. Link provided by Snuff.

 

[Cobbler]

And yet as has been repeatedly shown by Scott and the match committee, they're more than happy to select youngsters in the best 22 when the youngster has earned selection

Cool.
So Clark didn’t earn selection a great deal of time, yet he’s earned a top 20 pick?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Well yeah it’s a generalisation, but when it’s in response to critics talking about age it’s a fairly dumb comment.

Anyway, it was said. Link provided by Snuff.

It was said but it does not mean what you say it means.

 

[calder_daddy]

Just here to ask.


has he requested a trade yet?

 

[cats_09]

Just here to ask.


has he requested a trade yet?

I understand he asked if he can trade in his old hairdresser for a new barber

 

[Wally Walpamur]

Pick 8 seems fair.

 

[calder_daddy]

Pick 8 seems fair.

No it’s not.
But we all know what’s going on here.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

WTF.

Fremantle was in a middle of rebuild and Weller who were developing player wanted out for money.

Suns didn’t have to do the deal, like Fremantle doesn’t trade for Clark.

Massive difference is that Weller played 22 games and Geelong refused to play Clark and recruited Smith in his place.

Sure, Clark could be played off you half back but the Cats played Holmes over him.

Holmes never played in defence-they arent competing for the same spot.

 

[Cobbler]

Pick 8 seems fair.

I concur.
Fremantle could give up 8 for Jordan. That way they can demand 4 x first rounders for Cerra by citing their own Clark deal.
Chess not checkers!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Exactly. The conversation would be more like freo offering 27 and the cats saying "well we're not taking that and the only other Pick you have is 8 so I guess we'll ask for that then". Then both parties have a chuckle and say "OK talk to you later".

Any realistic outcome is clearly dependent on other trades

This.

 

[MacStradbroke]

No I said in my post... we bent them over because they left it late and promised Weller the world. They had promised him they would get him in. That's why they got bent over. They could have walked away and had a very pissed off Weller on their hands. Just like Freo can walk away from the Clark thing - I strongly doubt we've promised him anything other than doing our best to get a trade done.

Not sure why anyone is potting Freo for getting the most they possibly can out of a trade. That’s how it’s supposed to go isn’t it.

 

[Vivy]

Not sure why anyone is potting Freo for getting the most they possibly can out of a trade. That’s how it’s supposed to go isn’t it.

Yeah I dunno. If GC wanted to do the deal then that's on them and their list manager not to get taken for a ride. It's not on Fremantle.

Same as if Freo accepted the pick 8 request. That's on them. Not Geelong

 

[Moo]

Happy Mastenator credit

 

[Revan11]

Using the Caldwell example for comparison, probably likely that Clark gets done for 25/27 and a future second rounder.

 

[Ok Boomer]

He is definitely worth pick 8 and change.