Recommitted Josh Dunkley [OOC 2022, requested a trade to Essendon, didn't get there]

[JayJ20]

There is some criticism of Dodoro, but the defence of his trading this year and last is strident, and it's not one or two isolated examples.


Again, refer previous comments about Dodoro not valuing his own deal as enough.

There is pleeenty of criticism for Dodoro regarding Daniher. Many believed we should have traded Daniher last year instead of holding onto him. Plenty of criticism for the Shiel trade. Most Essendon fans also believed he unnecessarily made the Fantasia trade complicated.

I don’t have any problems with his conduct regarding the Dunkley trade though except for the length it took to come up with his offer. The final offer of pick 8 and a future second is more than enough. The 3-way trade for Treloar and Dunkley was also enough. Bulldogs just weren’t interested which is fair enough.

You’re misinterpreting Dodoro’s statement. Saying he wouldn’t do the deal if he was Bulldogs doesn’t mean he believes that’s what Dunkley is worth. It means he understands why Bulldogs didn’t trade Dunkley and would do the same for a player like him. A classic case of a player being worth more to a club than the open market considering Dunkley only has 3 quarters of one season last year to even justify a first rounder. There’s a reason why we targeted Dunkley over an Oliver type because he should realistically be cheaper than Oliver. Someone that’s pushed out of the midfield loses value.

Don’t think Dodoro or anyone expected the price to be 2 top 10 picks, which is what a contracted Oliver costs. We offered as high as we could and moved on from it. No issues there. All of Essendon, Bulldogs and Dunkley parted in an amicable way.

 

[The Devils Advocate]

If merrett had 2 years on his contract and was offered 750 for 5 years what would Don's supporters ask for?

A heart transplant, because I'd be missing a huge chunk of it.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

If merrett had 2 years on his contract and was offered 750 for 5 years what would Don's supporters ask for?

2 x Top 10 Picks

 

[Prochard123]

Merrett is better than Dunkley in almost ALL key stats.

Surely you're not comparing this year, when Dunkley played half his games as a ruckman right?...

Because if you are, wow, just wow. Talking about being completely ignorant and having no idea whatsoever.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

A straight swap with Merret would be fair imo

 

[eth-dog]

Surely you're not comparing this year, when Dunkley played half his games as a ruckman right?...

Because if you are, wow, just wow. Talking about being completely ignorant and having no idea whatsoever.

Okay, how about last year where Merrett basically cloned Dunkley? Or the years before where Merrett significantly outperformed him as well?

Seriously, if last year Dunkley outperformed Merrett, it was extremely marginal at best. Every other year Merrett has significantly outperformed him and as such is worth more.

 

[Prochard123]

Okay, how about last year where Merrett basically cloned Dunkley? Or the years before where Merrett significantly outperformed him as well?

Seriously, if last year Dunkley outperformed Merrett, it was extremely marginal at best. Every other year Merrett has significantly outperformed him and as such is worth more.

You mean the year before when he played half the season up forward?

If you look at the 2nd half of 2018 when Dunkley ACTUALLY PLAYED MIDFIELD, you wouldn't say something as delusional as "Merrett SIGNIFICANTLY outperforming Dunkley"

 

[eth-dog]

You mean the year before when he played half the season up forward?

Oh come on. You can make as many excuses as you like but Merrett has matched Dunkley's best season to date and significantly outperformed him in every other season. That's just a stone cold fact.

 

[Keystone agony]

You mean the year before when he played half the season up forward?

If you look at the 2nd half of 2018 when Dunkley ACTUALLY PLAYED MIDFIELD, you wouldn't say something as delusional as "Merrett SIGNIFICANTLY outperforming Dunkley"

A Collingwood fan turning this into Merrett vs Dunkley. Please.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

You mean the year before when he played half the season up forward?

If you look at the 2nd half of 2018 when Dunkley ACTUALLY PLAYED MIDFIELD, you wouldn't say something as delusional as "Merrett SIGNIFICANTLY outperforming Dunkley"

So hypothetical nonsense. Dunkley couldn’t get midfield minutes in front of Smith this year who Merrett outperformed by a mile. Currently he isn’t worth close to Merrett who has never had a down year he needs excuses to hide behind.

 

[Prochard123]

Oh come on. You can make as many excuses as you like but Merrett has matched Dunkley's best season to date and significantly outperformed him in every other season. That's just a stone cold fact.

What actually?

You are literally comparing Merrett's stats as a midfielder vs Dunkley as a forward/ruck, that's not an excuse, that's a fact.

 

[eth-dog]

What actually?

You are literally comparing Merrett's stats as a midfielder vs Dunkley as a forward/ruck, that's not an excuse, that's a fact.

I'm saying Merrett is better than Dunkley and has shown as much throughout their respective careers.

 

[Euku]

What actually?

You are literally comparing Merrett's stats as a midfielder vs Dunkley as a forward/ruck, that's not an excuse, that's a fact.
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I'm saying Merrett is better than Dunkley and has shown as much throughout their respective careers.

But we aren't after merrett your after a contracted dunkley for a big contract

 

[BRWB]

But we aren't after merrett your after a contracted dunkley for a big contract

No, no wait....lets turn this into a pissing contest between two players their clubs won't trade...yay

 

[cAsEy_18]

What actually?

You are literally comparing Merrett's stats as a midfielder vs Dunkley as a forward/ruck, that's not an excuse, that's a fact.

I reckon Guelfi would put up as impressive stats as Bontempelli...but we chose to play him in the backline.

That's a fact.

 

[Golden_6]

I personally think purely as players, Dunkley and Merrett are around the same value. Right now in this trade period, I think Dunkley holds more value due to Merrett being out of contract next year (Danniher situation), plus the fact that the Bombers have come after a player that is seemingly happy to stay if a deal can’t be worked out.

 

[Keystone agony]

What actually?

You are literally comparing Merrett's stats as a midfielder vs Dunkley as a forward/ruck, that's not an excuse, that's a fact.

What was it in 2020

Dunkley avg 8 CBAs
Z.Merrett avg 11 CBAs

take into account in general you get more stats in successful winning sides then id comfortably say Z.Merrett had a better 2020 taking into all accounts. Plus not withstanding the fact he can actually kick a footy. Edit: Dogs avg 11 disposals more than Essendon (Dunkley played in)

Also not withstanding the fact he usualy gets oppositions putting time into due to his influence with ball in hand. Josh wont have to worry about that in his career.

This debate can end here.

 

[BRWB]

What was it in 2020

Dunkley avg 8 CBAs
Z.Merrett avg 11 CBAs

take into account in general you get more stats in successful winning sides then id comfortably say Z.Merrett had a better 2020 taking into all accounts. Plus not withstanding the fact he can actually kick a footy.

Also not withstanding the fact he usualy gets oppositions putting time into due to his influence with ball in hand. Josh wont have to worry about that in his career.

This debate can end here.

Considering Dunks spent about 30% in the middle. That doesn't really add much.

 

[Keystone agony]

Considering Dunks spent about 30% in the middle. That doesn't really add much.

Can you not read?

The major Difference of 3 CBAs avg more takes that into account

 

[Silky23]

Give me Dunkley over Zerrett anyday.

 

[citizen-erased]

Give me Dunkley over Zerrett anyday.

Lucky for you, Dunkley is more gettable

 

[Silky23]

Lucky for you, Dunkley is more gettable

Not wrong mate. Gotta get Dodoro out of splash planet to make any deals around your joint.

 

[Bulldog Joe]

Can you not read?

The major Difference of 3 CBAs avg more takes that into account

I assume your CBAs are Centre Bounce attendances, but Dunkley was the ruckman for plenty of his average attendances.

Not getting involved in the player comparison, but you can't really on stats because they are clearly misleading.

 

[SweatOnMySkin]

If this thread is any indication, I highly doubt an amicable seal can be struck between the two teams, esp as picks are no use to the Doggies.

But If I am the Dogs, a straight swap of Zerrret for Dunkley i would do, despite the age gap, Merret is the better player and getting a class outside midfielder would help a team close to a flag window. Actually surprised some Essendon fans have suggested it really.

they're suggesting it because they fear losing him as a RFA in 12 months anyway, be under no illusion about motive that's why they keep bringing him up in this thread

 

[Keystone agony]

I assume your CBAs are Centre Bounce attendances, but Dunkley was the ruckman for plenty of his average attendances.

Not getting involved in the player comparison, but you can't really on stats because they are clearly misleading.

I don't believe he was

 

[Prochard123]

I don't believe he was

Well you are wrong...