Traded Josh Dunkley - [Traded with F3 (Melb), F3 to Brisbane for #21, F1, F2, F4 (Geel)]

[Lore]

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[Johnny Bananas]

And one of the picks is next year, so has less value.

This despite next year being considered a better draft than this one?

 

[BangyBangy]

Our offer to Dunkley has been misreported. Port was actually offering a slightly better deal on paper.

Dunkley and Tippah want QLD.

More than anything he just wanted out of Whitten Oval.

Tried two years ago. It didn't happen. Fair enough, when you're contracted you're contracted. You're well within your rights to stick to your guns & make a player stay.

But this was always going to be the outcome (not necessarily to the Lions, but to anyone). You could see it a thousand miles away.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Pick 30 is way unders. It's like a car is worth $30k and you're offering $15k

You offer a fat contract to a contracted player and then stiff Freo on a trade by dealing in bad faith. SMH

Lobb is taking a pay cut to move east.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Any danger of the Lions discovering a modicum of class and trade in good faith.

I'd say we are operating in extremely good faith.

• Ashcroft committed to us first so we have been operating so we can safely match a bid for him first
• We are also committed to Fletcher, but there would be limits to the bid we would match on him and we would have communicated that to him. That said, we are also attempting to maneuver into enough points to get him on board
• Dunkley has nominated us and we're doing what we can to satisfy the Bulldogs enough while still carrying enough points in this draft to accomodate the above. It's unlikely to be enough to sate the Bulldogs, but Ambrogio will be working every angle to make it as fair as we can manage with our other committments
• We are honouring our existing players contracts and not attempting to force them out the door in any trades, especially our first-year players.
• All these ball are up in the air while still attempting to give Hawthorn back something back for Gunston

We just have a bunch of players who are trying to get to us this year and we're trying to make everyone happy.

 

[Ant_]

Luckily for the vast majority of supporters of your club, the people who run the joint are focused on improving the club, success & winning more flags, not being spiteful dummy spitters.

Who knows, Dogs owe nothing to the Lions. Nothing spiteful about cutting your losses. Ol'North need a bit of love, they've had a rough time of it.

 

[LittleG]

This despite next year being considered a better draft than this one?

Next years draft is always better than last years. Same is said most years. The top 10 of next years draft looks elite but no one is trading one of those picks. The 11-40 of that draft, doesn’t appear as good as this one. Your pick is in that range, so no, I would rather a pick this year.

I think your future second rounder plus pick 25, could get pick 18 from GWS. Then you have the two first rounders to trade. And IF the Lions don’t ask for picks in return, then I expect Dunkley is yours.

Good luck to Dunkley and I hope he enjoys QLD as much as I do.

 

[mattsmob]

Who knows, Dogs owe nothing to the Lions. Nothing spiteful about cutting your losses. Ol'North need a bit of love, they've had a rough time of it.

Cutting your losses still means you're walking away with something, cutting your losses would be taking the deal before you end up with nothing. That's a good idea actually now you've mentioned it

 

[Warwick]

I'd say we are operating in extremely good faith.

• Ashcroft committed to us first so we have been operating so we can safely match a bid for him first
• We are also committed to Fletcher, but there would be limits to the bid we would match on him and we would have communicated that to him. That said, we are also attempting to manouvre into enough points to get him on board
• Dunkley has nominated us and we're doing what we can to satisfy the Bulldogs enough while still carrying enough points in this draft. It's unleikly to be enough to sate the Bulldogs, but Ambrogio will be working every angle to make it as fair as we can manage with our other committments
• We are honouring our existing players contracts and not attempting to force them out the door in any trades, especially our first-year players.
• All these ball are up in the air while still attempting to give Hawthorn back something back for Gunston

We just have a bunch of players who are trying to get to us this year and we're trying to make everyone happy.

But we want what Taranto got and we want it now!

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Nothing spiteful about cutting your losses.

I think you're talking about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

As much as your list managers are talking about the PSD as an option, they will already be quietly planning on who they'll draft or draft for with those picks. Not having them is just going to make their own jobs way harder.

 

[BangyBangy]

Who knows, Dogs owe nothing to the Lions. Nothing spiteful about cutting your losses. Ol'North need a bit of love, they've had a rough time of it.

 

[JasRulz63]

Lobb is taking a pay cut to move east.

Jeez the guy is taking a paycut despite being contracted to come to you guys. The least you guys could do is trade in good faith.

 

[iameviljez]

I'd say we are operating in extremely good faith.

• Ashcroft committed to us first so we have been operating so we can safely match a bid for him first
• We are also committed to Fletcher, but there would be limits to the bid we would match on him and we would have communicated that to him. That said, we are also attempting to maneuver into enough points to get him on board
• Dunkley has nominated us and we're doing what we can to satisfy the Bulldogs enough while still carrying enough points in this draft to accomodate the above. It's unlikely to be enough to sate the Bulldogs, but Ambrogio will be working every angle to make it as fair as we can manage with our other committments
• We are honouring our existing players contracts and not attempting to force them out the door in any trades, especially our first-year players.
• All these ball are up in the air while still attempting to give Hawthorn back something back for Gunston

We just have a bunch of players who are trying to get to us this year and we're trying to make everyone happy.

Everyone loves us and we're just trying to keep them happy? Oh come on.

You overcommitted, made a play for a player who you can't really afford, and then thought you could wing it by giving the Dogs a haircut.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Everyone loves us and we're just trying to keep them happy? Oh come on.

You overcommitted, made a play for a player who you can't really afford, and then thought you could wing it by giving the Dogs a haircut.

Like any other club wouldn't be doing the same in our position. Like your own club isn't trying to maximise it's own own position in this draft period.

 

[weltschmerz]

Like any other club wouldn't be doing the same in our position.

Hey a Brisbane fan recognising they're offering unders after over-committing to players they can't afford rather than trying to insist a bag of chips is a fair trade. Miracles can happen.

 

[bungalow_bill]

But we want what Taranto got and we want it now!

And they will get it. Precedent has been set by the Taranto trade as a first and a second which is what the deal will be.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I'd say we are operating in extremely good faith.

• Ashcroft committed to us first so we have been operating so we can safely match a bid for him first
• We are also committed to Fletcher, but there would be limits to the bid we would match on him and we would have communicated that to him. That said, we are also attempting to maneuver into enough points to get him on board
• Dunkley has nominated us and we're doing what we can to satisfy the Bulldogs enough while still carrying enough points in this draft to accomodate the above. It's unlikely to be enough to sate the Bulldogs, but Ambrogio will be working every angle to make it as fair as we can manage with our other committments
• We are honouring our existing players contracts and not attempting to force them out the door in any trades, especially our first-year players.
• All these ball are up in the air while still attempting to give Hawthorn back something back for Gunston

We just have a bunch of players who are trying to get to us this year and we're trying to make everyone happy.

#destinationclub

#flagbane

 

[Doggy Dan]

Luckily for the vast majority of supporters of your club, the people who run the joint are focused on improving the club, success & winning more flags, not being spiteful dummy spitters.

Any chance you could learn how to form a sentence prior to posting again? I nearly passed out trying to read this ill-formed drivel.

 

[rye]

Any chance you could learn how to form a sentence prior to posting again? I nearly passed out trying to read this ill-formed drivel.

think this might be a sign that you are unwell. visit a gp

 

[BangyBangy]

Any chance you could learn how to form a sentence prior to posting again? I nearly passed out trying to read this ill-formed drivel.

Zero chance Doggy Dan. You'll just have to learn to love me the way I am. Flaws and all.

 

[Seb78]

Dunkley and Tippah want QLD.

Thought Tippa wanted to go to Freo?

 

[theteamtobeat]

Hey a Brisbane fan recognising they're offering unders after over-committing to players they can't afford rather than trying to insist a bag of chips is a fair trade. Miracles can happen.

The hypocrisy, lol. Bulldogs are chasing Lobb and only want to give up pick 30 for a contracted player who kicked 36 goals, carrying Freo's forwardline.

 

[Thomasno]

Hey a Brisbane fan recognising they're offering unders after over-committing to players they can't afford rather than trying to insist a bag of chips is a fair trade. Miracles can happen.

My brother, your club is trying to offer up pick 30 for a contracted best 22 KPF whose club have made it very clear they would prefer to hold him to his contract.

And you’re talking about “fair trades”? Absolutely mental

 

[HK_Bulldog]

nah. I doubt we do 4 & what is likely another top 5 for 2x mid 1sts

that's 2 drafts we step out of the sharp end.
I reckon just 4 & 22 for 11, late 30s pick and Dunkley.

Rates him around pick 10.

I think our respective ladder positions next year will be unpredictable.

The hypocrisy, lol. Bulldogs are chasing Lobb and only want to give up pick 30 for a contracted player who kicked 36 goals, carrying Freo's forwardline.

Lobb will be 30 before next season starts. I can't think of any 30 years olds that have traded for a higher pick than 30. So what we are offering is more than fair. Can't say the same about Brisbane's offer.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

Anyone else just hoping for the chaos of Dunkley going to the PSD? Or even better (and I'm not just saying this as a Swans fan), he somehow finally ends up in Sydney and his father's head explodes

 

[theteamtobeat]

I think our respective ladder positions next year will be unpredictable.

Lobb will be 30 before next season starts. I can't think of any 30 years olds that have traded for a higher pick than 30. So what we are offering is more than fair. Can't say the same about Brisbane's offer.

So is Dunkley contracted or uncontracted because I'm pretty sure Lobb is contracted.