Josh Gibson "walks out" on the club - Wants to go to Hawthorn

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Re: Kangaroos Player "walks out" on the club

Many North supporters have disagreed with me on this in the past but Gibson really is a very average player. Anything better than pick 25 would be a massive win to us.

Anyone who has watched North play in the 2nd half of this year will know that Gibson can no longer get a game in the backline and has been playing in the midfield (and failing miserably).

Scott met with the players this week and Gibson would not have liked the conversation.

Hopefully a fair deal will be done

 

[footyfreak]

You could have said that 2-3 years ago, but not anymore. The whole footy department has changed since then and we have a new recruiter, talent manager and coach. You think we would make the same mistake twice?

Would a starving man beg for food more than once?

You'll take what you can get, it's no shame, it's just reality. I think a number of clubs have had to cop this kind of thing before.

 

[Zvim]

Hawthorn offer 2nd round pick, north refuse. Hawthorn tells gibson to enter National Draft with a price on his head which the club is offering.

Gibson enters draft and hawthorn use 2nd pick to take him.

meaning

Hawthorn use the pick they intended to give north
Hawthorn get the player they want
North Melbourne go off crying from another bungled trading period involving Hawthorn

Can't set price in ND, you go at standard rates for two years and would get picked up by Port if not sooner.

Gibbo has to move interstate, Hawks get nothing, you fail to get into the top 8 again next year.

win, win, win.

I'd be happy for Port to get Gibbo for nothing to us as a valuable lesson to players who think they can screw us. If we are only looking at a crap pick the lesson is more valuable than the pick.

 

[Zvim]

Would a starving man beg for food more than once?

You'll take what you can get, it's no shame, it's just reality. I think a number of clubs have had to cop this kind of thing before.

You must be the mastermind that is behind all of Collingwood's fantastic trading success. Which big name player are you guys interested in this time?

 

[Zvim]

Re: Kangaroos Player "walks out" on the club

Many North supporters have disagreed with me on this in the past but Gibson really is a very average player. Anything better than pick 25 would be a massive win to us.

Anyone who has watched North play in the 2nd half of this year will know that Gibson can no longer get a game in the backline and has been playing in the midfield (and failing miserably).

Scott met with the players this week and Gibson would not have liked the conversation.

Hopefully a fair deal will be done

Gibson is an average defender if the midfield is average. He is a guy that needs there to be defensive pressure so he has a fighting chance. But, when the midfield puts in then he is a very good competitor.

He is average if guys like Franklin and the long list of other players he has beaten are considered average as well.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

I'd be happy for Port to get Gibbo for nothing to us as a valuable lesson to players who think they can screw us. If we are only looking at a crap pick the lesson is more valuable than the pick.

Yep. EAgreed.

 

[markr]

What makes people think the Hawks are only chasing Gibson? They'll be talking to half a dozen players at different clubs and seeing what they can get over the line. Gibson might be the number one target, on the other hand he might be the sixth-in-line safety option if all the other deals fall through.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Can't set price in ND, you go at standard rates for two years and would get picked up by Port if not sooner.

Gibbo has to move interstate, Hawks get nothing, you fail to get into the top 8 again next year.

win, win, win.

I'd be happy for Port to get Gibbo for nothing to us as a valuable lesson to players who think they can screw us. If we are only looking at a crap pick the lesson is more valuable than the pick.

players who have already played AFL can set a price in ND, it is only New players which are not allowed to.

 

[Lach72]

Re: Kangaroos Player "walks out" on the club

Many North supporters have disagreed with me on this in the past but Gibson really is a very average player. Anything better than pick 25 would be a massive win to us.

Anyone who has watched North play in the 2nd half of this year will know that Gibson can no longer get a game in the backline and has been playing in the midfield (and failing miserably).

Scott met with the players this week and Gibson would not have liked the conversation.

Hopefully a fair deal will be done

This...bit short for what the Hawks require I would think

 

[Messenger]

I'd say this will involve pick 9. It's overpaying but if you offer the guy 800k over 3, then clearly you really want him.

You plant your claim this early, you have to back it up.

And we have played some silly games with Thornton and O'Keefe over the last couple of years. The intention is reasonable, the execution less so.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

I'd say this will involve pick 9. It's overpaying but if you offer the guy 800k over 3, then clearly you really want him.

You plant your claim this early, you have to back it up.

And we have played some silly games with Thornton and O'Keefe over the last couple of years. The intention is reasonable, the execution less so.

Good call. There's still a hell of a long way to go with this.

Does Hale hold any interest for the Hawks - in his ruck incarnation?

 

[bedford]

Is this the same Josh Gibson that was looked after by North when he fell over in the bath ?
Is this the same Chris Pelican who stuffed up the ROK deal, he is a goose.

 

[Messenger]

Does Hale hold any interest for the Hawks - in his ruck incarnation?

Yes, but I wouldn't throw the kitchen sink out for him.

How would you package Gibson and Hale up together?

My view for Gibson solo is your second for our first (Gibson + 21 for 9) FWIW.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Is this the same Josh Gibson that was looked after by North when he fell over in the bath ?
Is this the same Chris Pelican who stuffed up the ROK deal, he is a goose.

you do realise that not giving up pick 16 meant that Hawthorn got to pick up a kid who will most likely hold down CHB for the next 10 yrs dont you?

 

[db swannie]

Re: Josh gibson to hawthorn !!!!!

Gibson has walked out on the roos and wants to go to the hawks. Roos would want a first round pick you would think. Will be interesting to see what Hawthorn are willing to give up for him.

A good player, but no way is he a first rounder IMO

 

[dipper86]

I'd say this will involve pick 9. It's overpaying but if you offer the guy 800k over 3, then clearly you really want him.

.

You're making it sound like we are paying him a massive amount, we are paying him just above average wage.

FFS Dawson will be on $250k a season for 2 years. Thats $500k for 2 years.

 

[bedford]

you do realise that not giving up pick 16 meant that Hawthorn got to pick up a kid who will most likely hold down CHB for the next 10 yrs dont you?

And Tim Boyle was going to be in the forward line for the next 10 years

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

My view for Gibson solo is your second for our first (Gibson + 21 for 9) FWIW.

That's my view as well. Though the Hale one is tricky. Worth hanging onto imo to see if he can play better in a team giving him better delivery next year.

 

[snrub]

Glad Gibson has thought it over, chasing the dream of a premiership rather than playing for a mediocre team.

The beauty of it is, at Hawthorn he gets to do both.

 

[Lach72]

They need a key defender.
Tarrant for a second round will probably acheive that

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

You're making it sound like we are paying him a massive amount, we are paying him just above average wage.

FFS Dawson will be on $250k a season for 2 years. Thats $500k for 2 years.

See my comments above re: the red herring of the 'average wage' argument.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

And Tim Boyle was going to be in the forward line for the next 10 years

tim boyle was unlucky that he has been injured over and over in such a short time.

shoey has had no problem (yet) and AT THIS POINT IN TIME looks like he will be a 200 gamer/10 yr player

 

[dipper86]

That's my view as well. Though the Hale one is tricky. Worth hanging onto imo to see if he can play better in a team giving him better delivery next year.

Where. I'm lazy

 

[dipper86]

They need a key defender.
Tarrant for a second round will probably acheive that

Yep, I like that trade a lot. Prefer this over the Gibson trade.

 

[Messenger]

You're making it sound like we are paying him a massive amount, we are paying him just above average wage.

FFS Dawson will be on $250k a season for 2 years. Thats $500k for 2 years.

Your missing the point, dipper86.

If the story is accurate they have offered him a three year deal. Xavier Ellis didn't get a three year first up and we invested pick 3 in him. I'll wager the length of tenure is at least as important as the money.

As to the money, well it is more likely to be something like 300/250/250, but it is a substantial commitment nonetheless.