Recommitted Josh Kelly [re-signed]

[Colonial]

Your complete inability to look inwards is astounding.

You don't believe your mob would be offering him $1 million ($200k more) in 2 years time?

You don't think GWS want him as a 10 year player?

Whats that got to do with my post?

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[Kangaroos4eva]

Remember when the Saints poster said it is only north posters being juvenile, lol, how wrong he was.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I would never offer a player a 9 year deal, and as a player I would probably never sign one.

Your club offered a 6 year million dollar a season contract to Judd when he was 25 and that was 10 years ago!!!!!!

I see very little difference in risk with the Kelly/North offer.

Especially at a club which is lingering on the edge of relocation like North Melbourne.

Did your club ever get around to paying back the AFL the $12 million they needed to borrow to keep the doors open?

 

[james Dean]

Your club offered a 6 year million dollar a season contract to Judd when he was 25 and that was 10 years ago!!!!!!

I see very little difference in risk with the Kelly/North offer.

Don't compare Josh Kelly to Chris Judd.

 

[saintsrfreak]

Your ignorance of the North list is breathtaking.

We invested in some of the best KPP and defender talent available, in the more recent drafts when we finished with higher ladder placings. This tends to be the target group for clubs that have 1st & 2nd round picks in the teens and 30's.

The defence

Tarrant is a recognised star defender that has 5 seasons left. Jamie MacMillan is a good half back, and the injury riddled Sam Wright is also a quality defender. Aaron Mullet was ranked 5th in the AFL for rebounds in 2017.

The future Defence

Neilsen, Ed Vickers - Willis and Durdin form the core spine of our backline for the next decade. Barring injury, Neilsen and Vickers - Willis will be 200 game AFL players. Durdin plays more of a swing man role. Ben McKay also debuted and looked right at home handling the big forwards.

On one half back flank we have Ryan Clarke who averaged 27 disposals in the last 5 matches of the season (Games 16 to 21) and racked up some impressive stats for the season, yet many don't even seem to know his name.

Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Handballs

Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals

Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions

Ranked 8th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals

Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Centre Clearances

Ranked 1st among rising stars in Handballs Per Game

Ranked 5th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game

Ranked 5th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game

Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game

Ranked 8th among rising stars in Centre Clearances Per Game

Ranked 10th among rising stars in Metres Gained Per Game

He will become a 500 disposal player next season and won't turn 21 until June.

On the other back flank we have the impressive Declan Mountford.



Declan debuted in round 1, then came back and played the last 9 games of the season and performed admirably. The club is looking at extending his contract now.

Marley Williams came over from Collingwood for basically nothing and was playing so well in the first half of the season that his name was getting thrown around for AA squad inclusion, until he succumbed to a season ending injury. He has only just turned 24.

IMO, the highly touted Tasmanian draftee, Mitch Hibberd, will be the pick of the lot of them. He had an excellent 22 disposal/7 mark match against Freo in only his 3rd match before succumbing to a season ending injury early in the next match against Port.

Durdin - pick 16, Neilsen - pick 26, Vickers - Willis - pick 36 were all picked up in the 2014 draft. We snagged Preuss in the rookie draft.

McKay - pick 21, Clarke - pick 31, Hibberd - pick 33, Mountford - pick 60 were all picked up in the 2015 draft.

As you can see, we have recently focused on our defence with our best picks. They will all be good AFL players.

Our defence is in excellent shape and is basically set for the next 8 to 10 years, and yet you couldn't even mention one of these players in your list.

Ok, but there's a reason I didn't include players like Jack Silvagni, Harry McKay, Jarrod Pickett, Zac Fisher, Nick Graham, Ciaran Byrne etc etc

 

[Snake_Baker]

Remember when the Saints poster said it is only north posters being juvenile, lol, how wrong he was.

K4E, can I borrow your eyes for a moment?

Do you notice the slightest bit of ambiguity with this post and response?

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/josh-kelly.1161574/page-267#post-52412802

 

[Snake_Baker]

Ok, but there's a reason I didn't include players like Jack Silvagni, Harry McKay, Jarrod Pickett, Zac Fisher, Nick Graham, Ciaran Byrne etc etc

Yeah, an obvious reason.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Don't compare Josh Kelly to Chris Judd.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...id2=4&type=A&pid1=3919&pid2=109&fid1=O&fid2=O

 

[saintsrfreak]

Yeah, an obvious reason.

Would've thought it was obvious why I didn't think Mountford, other McKay, Durdin, Hibberd etc didn't rate a mention.

 

[james Dean]

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...id2=4&type=A&pid1=3919&pid2=109&fid1=O&fid2=O

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Cunnington a c-grader, that gave me a good chuckle.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Would've thought it was obvious why I didn't think Mountford, other McKay, Durdin, Hibberd etc didn't rate a mention.

North

Mountford - Has arrived. Permanent senior 22 player.
McKay - Needs another year (just like his brother). Likely to be a defender, not a forward.
Durdin - Will slot in full time this season. Hansen has been delisted to make way for him.
Hibberd - Injured

Carlton

Jack Silvagni - Wouldn't have played a game if not for his surname
Harry McKay - Needs at least another 12 months. Couldn't consolidate in a side with forward marking issues (Carlton-15th).
Jarrod Pickett - Underwhelming. Could get cut if he doesn't show up this season.
Zac Fisher - Has ability, but is very small & light. Will need luck.
Nick Graham - Currently a list filler that hasn't consolidated a spot. Very likely to be delisted.
Ciaran Byrne - Irish import with knee issues that has racked up 15 appearances in a bottom side over 3 seasons.

 

[Groin guru]

How would Kelly go carrying that midfield? Not one A grader in there. Cunnington is a solid C+ grader and Higgins on his day can play like an A grader but is probably more of a B-. Neither of them would be in the top 100 players in the competition. Who else do they have? Would be a depressing thought for Kelly knowing you're the only good midfielder in a side.

How did North find themselves in this position? A tiny battling club like that can't afford to be at the bottom at all, let alone for a long period. I am sensing some dark times ahead for that football club. Pressure to land Kelly is at an all time high after being snubbed by absolutely every other player that was considered 'gettable'.

When Cunnington is on he is just as good as Martin.

 

[Groin guru]

Don't compare Josh Kelly to Chris Judd.

Kelly has more upside.

 

[blueboy25]

North

Mountford - Has arrived. Permanent senior 22 player.
McKay - Needs another year (just like his brother). Likely to be a defender, not a forward.
Durdin - Will slot in full time this season. Hansen has been delisted to make way for him.
Hibberd - Injured

Carlton

Jack Silvagni - Wouldn't have played a game if not for his surname

Would have been 3rd in your goal kicking if he played for your mob

 

[james Dean]

When Cunnington is on he is just as good as Martin.

Do you even think before you type?

 

[Gosha]

When Cunnington is on he is just as good as Martin.

Guessing that happens about once every two - three years?

 

[Gosha]

Don't compare Josh Kelly to Chris Judd.

Watch them backpedal when Kelly stays at GWS. "He's nowhere near as good as Cunnington anyway".

 

[Royal Flush]

I would never offer a player a 9 year deal, and as a player I would probably never sign one.

Especially at a club which is lingering on the edge of relocation like North Melbourne.

Just as well you're not a player or a recruiter.
You're comment makes sense because of that

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[TheKanga]

Wowee!! Sign him up for 10 years quick, before someone tries to poach him!

You sir are a flog.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

There are two undisputed facts;
Kelly delayed re-signing
after north put an offer out.


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Hahahahahahaha!

CASE CLOSED!

 

[TheKanga]

Why do you even bother with this obvious troll utilising a Melbourne front?

Scroll straight past it and it will dry up and blow away to due the lack of attention it is clearly craving.

You are right.
So many oppo supporter just shit post all the time.
Whole place is like the bay.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Would have been 3rd in your goal kicking if he played for your mob

5th on averages with midfielders breathing down his neck.

He wouldn't have gotten a game in our side. Period.

 

[KermitJagger]

How would Kelly go carrying that midfield? Not one A grader in there. Cunnington is a solid C+ grader and Higgins on his day can play like an A grader but is probably more of a B-. Neither of them would be in the top 100 players in the competition. Who else do they have? Would be a depressing thought for Kelly knowing you're the only good midfielder in a side.

How did North find themselves in this position? A tiny battling club like that can't afford to be at the bottom at all, let alone for a long period. I am sensing some dark times ahead for that football club. Pressure to land Kelly is at an all time high after being snubbed by absolutely every other player that was considered 'gettable'.

I don't like Cunnington at all but he's a good player - can hardly call him a C+ grader. Fantastic contested player and one of the best in the AFL when it comes to stoppage situations.

North's best players aren't bad, it's just a matter of their worst players being... well, very bad and poorly skilled. Goldstein/Preuss, Cunnington, Brown, Tarrant all form a pretty solid core. If you add to that Zeibell, Higgins and Wood there's a lot to work with. They just need depth players that can actually kick a ball, and one more legitimate star mid.

Maybe a classy user off half back, because they've got Mullet and Atley who are will never ever be that.

 

[Groin guru]

Do you even think before you type?

It's true. Cunnington has a better stiff arm too. He is a contested bull and far better than cripps