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Might be wrong, but wasn't there a game where Geelong actually wore that 1998 model against Carlton? Someone might have some pics or vision..
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Might be wrong, but wasn't there a game where Geelong actually wore that 1998 model against Carlton? Someone might have some pics or vision..
Because the Roos wear a white based jumper - the Bulldogs don't.
Carlton should have been in clash - but seriously, that was a minor clash - there is a lot bigger clashes (ie Pies v Blues)
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Though personally I would have no issue for the Dogs wearing red if the Roos insisted on wearing blue shorts in their home game, which we've done before. North simply weren't dicks to the Dogs for this game.
And the issue isn't necessarily the extent that Carlton clashed or not. It's a) it's their away game, b) they have an alternate uniform that still incorporates club colours and c) we should try to have as great a differential between teams in order to make the viewing experience as pleasant as possible.
I'm not sure if anyone has gone to the footy with these sorts of jumper instances with people who aren't engaged footy fans, let alone introducing the game to someone from overseas with no experience in it whatsoever (which I have), and it creates an unnecessary barrier to the strength of the game all for the benefit for a few nuffies. Will Carlton seriously lose fans if they were forced to wear white against the Dogs? Will Essendon if they wear red against Collingwood? These teams still get to wear their main, home uniform for their 11 home games a season.
I'm very much of the view that the mentality of away games, and the change in policy should be for the away team to wear the jumper out of all their possibilities that explicitly creates the best viewer experience, not merely in the cases where there is a "clash" of home jumpers (which in any case isn't always fulfilled e.g. big 4 against each other). I get that this creates situations where the Dogs and Carlton (and other similar match ups) will always feature one of the two teams in white, or that famous home jumper matchups that have historical value will be no more. I think suck it up. We're in the 21st century and there's millions poured into gaining new fans and improving the broadcast experience.
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Couple of quickies - I remember hearing of an English journalist who came out to cover the 2000 GF, which was his first ever taste of AFL. When asked what he thought of our great game, his very response was to comment on the playing kits being unnecessarily similar. (Ess v Melb which is thankfully no longer)
Also during covid times, when most of the world's sports had closed and the AFL was getting a lot of extra eyeballs, including from overseas sports punters just craving a dose of anything, a clip of a Coll v Geel game went viral due to US pundit Pat Mcafee. I remember reading the comments from all the bemused foreigners trying to figure out the rules, and one of the very first comments was, "why are both teams wearing the same top?" So yeah....
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This is the famous M&M jumper yeah? Why don't they wear this as their clash jumper instead of the white one. Not against the Bulldogs of course because as others have said, Carltons home jumper with dark shorts is fine for that clash. But against Essendon and the like. This light blue is quite sufficient.
I know at the time there was much disdain for the M&M jumper but come on. Wearing an all white jumper and your called "The Blues" doesn't make much sense. At least the M&M jumper is blue.
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Yeah I like it as a clash jumper. The M&M blue is unique. It's not quote royal blue, and of course not navy blue. It's almost aqua, but not that either.
Essendon, Richmond and Carlton have perfectly good clash jumpers.
The problem is the first 3 don't wear them against eachother and against Collingwood, only against 'lesser' teams like Melbourne (As Essendon did last week), Port, Freo (like carlton and collingwood have done), etc
so whether its carlton and its a white, chamois, m&m blue or some other blue jumper,
or essendon and an all red, or a red and black with black thin slash in between, or curved fat slash,
or richmond with their reverse and all yellow back or reverse with slash on back also,
.......its all moot if they wont wear them against one another
The problem is the first 3 don't wear them against eachother and against Collingwood, only against 'lesser' teams like Melbourne (As Essendon did last week), Port, Freo (like carlton and collingwood have done), etc
so whether its carlton and its a white, chamois, m&m blue or some other blue jumper,
or essendon and an all red, or a red and black with black thin slash in between, or curved fat slash,
or richmond with their reverse and all yellow back or reverse with slash on back also,
.......its all moot if they wont wear them against one another
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So do we have another mess looming on Friday night or are the Crows going to surprise us with something predominantly yellow or white?
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Hard to say from just pictures and I can’t find any videos but I reckon it’ll be fine:
White shorts will fix it Friday
Same as in a few weeks with Collingwood v Carlton. White shorts makes it bonza
Same as in a few weeks with Collingwood v Carlton. White shorts makes it bonza
Gonna pay credit to one team which I think does it well, the Suns.
Understanding they don’t have the guernsey history other clubs do, but do like how they’ll put out that blue guernsey when they need to, and also not afraid to use a minor colour in the colour scheme to avoid a clash.
It’s a very much an adult way of dealing with it.
Understanding they don’t have the guernsey history other clubs do, but do like how they’ll put out that blue guernsey when they need to, and also not afraid to use a minor colour in the colour scheme to avoid a clash.
It’s a very much an adult way of dealing with it.
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Wondering if hawks v pies retro will have too much white in both?
I can see why Carlton wouldn't want to use the jumper because of the association with how they sold it, but think the idea of a lighter blue has some merit.
Even the current clash guernsey could be adapted to be a lighter blue (instead of white) but retain the darker blue at the top, essentially have two shades of blue, works with being called the Blues, and is still a difference to the M&M jumper.
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And in the Crows case, a 6th strip. (Our home, away, gather, anzac and indigenous guernseys still all clash with Brisbane
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Crows "clash" would be a white based kit, which they have used before.And in the Crows case, a 6th strip. (Our home, away, gather, anzac and indigenous guernseys still all clash with Brisbane
It aint that hard to use jumpers clubs have worn before to resolve all clashes.
But first you need to want to actually solve it, and whilst fans keep thinking popping white shorts on is acceptable we have no hope.
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I dont get it.
Clubs are happy to do an Indigenous top, but to have a clash jumper....
ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!
What is the bloody difference? Heck, clubs are happy to sell a box for a sponsor, which can be a completely different colour altogether.
The Crows, for example, should use the yellow clash they had for years on Friday. They should also have a red top for other clashes(If they want). They have 3 colours. Easy.
Every club in the AFL has 2 colours(or even better, 3). Most of the time, the reverse will work(ala Collingwood). It is very bloody rare that you have to differ from that template.
Clubs are happy to do an Indigenous top, but to have a clash jumper....
ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!
What is the bloody difference? Heck, clubs are happy to sell a box for a sponsor, which can be a completely different colour altogether.
The Crows, for example, should use the yellow clash they had for years on Friday. They should also have a red top for other clashes(If they want). They have 3 colours. Easy.
Every club in the AFL has 2 colours(or even better, 3). Most of the time, the reverse will work(ala Collingwood). It is very bloody rare that you have to differ from that template.
Tonights game
Black with red sash, black shorts and white numbers
V
Very dark blue with red and yellow, yellow numbers and white shorts
Only the yellow is different
Farce
Black with red sash, black shorts and white numbers
V
Very dark blue with red and yellow, yellow numbers and white shorts
Only the yellow is different
Farce
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I swear it all just stems from the oldschool dumbass bogan idea that whoever isn't wearing their 'traditional' strip is 'bowing down' or 'admitting defeat' or 'the weaker one'. like Essendon think they're a lesser club if they don't wear their sash on black for every game in history. funnily enough people think they're lesser because they make such a big deal about it.
Non Victorian teams usually do ok with their clash jumpers - but the Crows stuffed up big time, and the AFL should never have ticked it off. Actually most clubs have ok clash jumpers (they just don't wear them when they should, ie Carlton)
A clash jumper needs to be predominantly 1 colour - Crows should just be using a yellow version of their home jumper if they still want to use club colours.
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Have I heard correctly that Hawthorn have now decided not to wear their retro jumper tomorrow?
Thank god for that if true.
Thank god for that if true.
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That could be our only hope. Kill two birds with one stone. If we could get some ripping indigenous designs happening that were overwhelmingly the desired colours, and not too busy, then maybe teams & the league would be much more willing to wear them more often, and they should incur less backlash.
Someone at the club finally realised they were playing Collingwood?
