Coach Justin Longmuir Pt 2

[dominguez]

Sometimes he does. Sometimes it's the opposite. How he managed to win just 4 games in 2016 is still Freos greatest underachieving year in its history. Finished on top 2015, played in a competitive Prelim, them fell off a cliff.

Saints fans would be bitterly disappointed with 2024.

Other than WC who has a worse list than the Saints? Incredible that RTB got them into the 8 last year.

 

[Purple Suit]

It’s the selection committee that’s worrying me now; I’m certain they are gonna piss me off in 2025.
They cost us at least 6-7 games this year.I’m still trying to recover from the Tabs/Voss ruck combo against Geelong and no ruckman in Hawthorn game.

Yep,
I not sure I blame them for that many losses as it is rarely your bottom 3 players who make a difference but the ruck mistakes were costly. It's easy in hindsight with the first mistake but contining to do it again and again is the problem.

Essendon & Geelong were stupid mistakes after we had seen the outcome from the Hawks game. They finally fixed it up for the GWS & Port games but we had left ourselves too much to do.

 

[Docker82]

I wouldn't be firing or extending until the season is over, including finals.

There’s close to zero chance of us waiting until the end of the season to make a decision. Especially if things are going well.

Let’s be honest he has the same season as this year he’ll be re-signed about 2/3 of the way through the season (when we were top four or close this year).

 

[pK75]

It’s the selection committee that’s worrying me now; I’m certain they are gonna piss me off in 2025.
They cost us at least 6-7 games this year.I’m still trying to recover from the Tabs/Voss ruck combo against Geelong and no ruckman in Hawthorn game.

Jackson played both those games?

 

[Outshined]

It would be peak Freo if we left him unsigned through a deep run into the finals, then somehow lost him to another team.

 

[CapitalA]

Other than WC who has a worse list than the Saints? Incredible that RTB got them into the 8 last year.

Tbh I don't think their list is as bad as the media makes it out to be, they seem to make a lot of excuses for them.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Sticking with the incumbent coach has paid more dividends than going for the quick fix of late. I recon it’ll all come good this season for the playing group, selection committee and coach.

They got a lot right last year but that 5% off at critical times was the difference. Happy to give him the flick if we miss finals otherwise we just need to keep improving.

It's a case by case basis. There's no point sticking with a coach for the sake of it if they've shown they're not up to snuff. Like a Chris Connolly, or Mark Harvey. Or Justin Longmuir.

It would be peak Freo if we left him unsigned through a deep run into the finals, then somehow lost him to another team.

LOL. I think we're safe from that scenario unfolding

 

[WilloTree]

Other than WC who has a worse list than the Saints? Incredible that RTB got them into the 8 last year.

A very good friend of mine is a Saints fan and he was gutted. They finished 6th in 2020, then 6th again in 2023 with practically the same list (minus a 24 year old Max King, NW-M and Liam Henry in 2020). It's a top 8 capable list.

Finishing 12th was a disaster but having picks 7 and 8 in this draft is a huuuuge upside.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Other than WC who has a worse list than the Saints? Incredible that RTB got them into the 8 last year.

It baffles me that any team would employ SOS as a list manager. He's incompetent.

 

[Bicco]

JL has close to the best list that we’ve ever had. There’s 3 players that he needs to get the best or better out of.
#1 is Amiss. Jye must get back to his 2023 accuracy. 36.28 is just not accurate enough for a player who mostly has set shots. I know he kicked some clutch goals (Syd. & ESS.) but he absolutely cost us momentum in a lot of games due to his misses.
#2 is Jackson. JL needs to find where Jackson can get 20 touches and 5 marks a game. Jackson having Treacy like improvement will be huge for where we finish on the table. He’s got to have greater influence on the outcome of games.
#3 is the Smokey and that’s NOD. He’s probably got the highest ceiling, or room for improvement than anyone else on the list. He’s fast, has a cannon left boot and can kick goals. To me he replaces Fyfe in the middle, but how JL uses him will be very interesting.
JL has everything else a list could want. AA players running around in both the midfield and defence, a maturing forward line that’s added one of the most dynamic players in the league.
I think that generally speaking, our on field tactics are pretty good. We’ve been right in a lot of games,we’ve just failed in moments and sometimes periods of games and that’s where the above players can make the difference.

 

[Purple Suit]

It's a case by case basis. There's no point sticking with a coach for the sake of it if they've shown they're not up to snuff. Like a Chris Connolly, or Mark Harvey. Or Justin Longmuir.



LOL. I think we're safe from that scenario unfolding

The players seem to have bought in, we still have a young age profile and copped injuries in the wrong positions at the wrong time.

Getting Bolton & another year swings it to finals or bust territory now but you have to back in a driven group. Sacking the coach last season would have been like putting a heart and soul player on the trade table. It could easier backfire, while the path to greatness looks achievable with this group.

Who would you have replaced him with anyway? McWalter?

 

[King Huskii]

JL has close to the best list that we’ve ever had. There’s 3 players that he needs to get the best or better out of.
#1 is Amiss. Jye must get back to his 2023 accuracy. 36.28 is just not accurate enough for a player who mostly has set shots. I know he kicked some clutch goals (Syd. & ESS.) but he absolutely cost us momentum in a lot of games due to his misses.
#2 is Jackson. JL needs to find where Jackson can get 20 touches and 5 marks a game. Jackson having Treacy like improvement will be huge for where we finish on the table. He’s got to have greater influence on the outcome of games.
#3 is the Smokey and that’s NOD. He’s probably got the highest ceiling, or room for improvement than anyone else on the list. He’s fast, has a cannon left boot and can kick goals. To me he replaces Fyfe in the middle, but how JL uses him will be very interesting.
JL has everything else a list could want. AA players running around in both the midfield and defence, a maturing forward line that’s added one of the most dynamic players in the league.
I think that generally speaking, our on field tactics are pretty good. We’ve been right in a lot of games,we’ve just failed in moments and sometimes periods of games and that’s where the above players can make the difference.

I agree with you on pretty much everything

Two things hurt JLO and that was a feww odd selections that imo cost usba few games plus the loss of Darcey Pearce Cox and Tracey with Jackson playing under duress

Thats our spine and some players were injured for long periods or at crucial times. If all those guys are up and firing plus Bolton is at his best then look out the rest of the comp.

 

[dont bowl there]

There’s close to zero chance of us waiting until the end of the season to make a decision. Especially if things are going well.

Let’s be honest he has the same season as this year he’ll be re-signed about 2/3 of the way through the season (when we were top four or close this year).

100%. The club will most likely extend around the bye even if we are somewhat struggling. It's not what I would do but it's the AFL way.