Stokey
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Yes.did you not see his performance?
Did you see the whole lot or just what you were fed?
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Yes.did you not see his performance?
I used to more, in the before times. Some of them lean hard into left/prog opinions. Their programming has been subsumed by Trump though since 2016 and I find it hard to watch sometimes. I like Melber's legal angles and Maddow's context laying.I watch it regularly. Have no problem with it.
At least it doesn’t have the circus vibe like over on Fox.
The clown show.
Lol. Are you trying to say the Dems or the political party you vote for doesn't lie?Difficult to expect Stokey to detect lies when they align with what he believes to be true (this is a common issue to humans)
Yes, like that lone non-conservative woman on Fox.I dont care if she does or doesnt go on Fox - to me she isnt gaining 1 single vote by doing so but I would do it and pushback on all the lies Fox has spouted and watch them cringe
And yes your point about ''traditional media ' is spot on . Old men yelling at clouds on AM radio is dead . Moving to TV wont resurrect the corpse
I'll wait until Kamala does her hour long presser so I can compare the two.No its on display for the whole world to see.
If you seriously can't watch that Trump presser from yesterday and ascertain that the guy is a complete nut who does nothing but talk absolute lie-filled diatribe, then there really is no hope for you.
He probably won't/shouldn't mention that, but his surrogates sure as hell should. Emphasize how much he is like them.Politco have an article about Walz by a former student. Seems a genuine good guy, he plays the crowd well, too. Probably a bit like he taught and what a tough crowd to work, teenagers! What I like most is, he has no investments other than his pension fund. None. I wonder how many US politicians have no investments.
Internet is bad at conveying tone. It was making the same point you are - that humans find it hard to detect lies when the lies align with what you believe/ want to believe.Lol. Are you trying to say the Dems or the political party you vote for doesn't lie?
The JD Vance couch story has been shown to be a lie but everyone here still treats it like it's true. Walz has lied about his military service and they have had to clean up his bio. The Dems lied and continue to lie about Joe's fitness at the same time they were plotting to knife him.
Politics is full of lies. It's hilarious you think you are some lie detecting shamen.
The JD Vance couch story has been shown to be a lie but everyone here still treats it like it's true.
You will have a long wait.Still waiting for a right winger to tell me how what actual policies republicans have which will make life better for Americans than the world than the Dems.
I mean I assume it’s all just their vibes and owning the libs, but I’m always open to being surprised!
Yes.
Did you see the whole lot or just what you were fed?
No shortage of folks who prefer comfortable lies. Watters is the moron who claimed that “when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman.” He prefaced it with a call to authority, "scientists say....". I'm still waiting to see the scientist. If you watched dribble like that all the time. you'd end up brain dead and a Trumpster.I used to more, in the before times. Some of them lean hard into left/prog opinions. Their programming has been subsumed by Trump though since 2016 and I find it hard to watch sometimes. I like Melber's legal angles and Maddow's context laying.
But the one thing they tend to do, is keep to the facts. Just watching a few Fox clips from my YT feed is startling in their ridiculousness. The shit that Watters guy puts out. He's in a prime time slot.
I'll wait until Kamala does her hour long presser so I can compare the two.
Cos if you have the better policies, better arguments and can call out his lies then it makes you look the better candidate.Why would you do extra debates against a compulsive liar that doesn't follow the rules?
The birther story is a lie, Pizzagate is a lie, Soros conspiracy theories are a lie, Hunters laptop, a billion other things and of course the election steal is the biggest lie.Everyone knows Trump getting shot is a lie but they still repeat it
except when there are so many rusted on who adore the lies as they align with their beliefs, you will not appear the better candidate to them, you will appear like you are the liar (for challenging their belief) while to those who would support you, you appear ineffective (because you dont sway the base of the other) and so in a voluntary voting situation your turnout drops/Cos if you have the better policies, better arguments and can call out his lies then it makes you look the better candidate.
Trump has only ever debated biden and clinton. Both terrible debaters. A good debater who was prepared would absolutely monster him.
I don't think Kamala is that good a debator though.Cos if you have the better policies, better arguments and can call out his lies then it makes you look the better candidate.
Trump has only ever debated biden and clinton. Both terrible debaters. A good debater who was prepared would absolutely monster him.
There is policies on his website. Do you need you hand held?Still waiting for a right winger to tell me how what actual policies republicans have which will make life better for Americans than the world than the Dems.
I mean I assume it’s all just their vibes and owning the libs, but I’m always open to being surprised!