Coach Kenny Hinkley - should he stay or should he go (or will he be here until the end of time)?

[Drunkcat]

Port don't have depth 3 or 4 out and they are done, got to stop getting c grade players in.

 

[rainwizard39]

Port don't have depth 3 or 4 out and they are done, got to stop getting c grade players in.

Seems to work when the cats do it you guys can grab a player from anywhere and they do well in your teams system.

 

[Drunkcat]

Seems to work when the cats do it you guys can grab a player from anywhere and they do well in your teams system.

Yes but we never get players like the 3 ex-cats, they should be playing local footy, got to get better than that.

 

[rainwizard39]

Yes but we never get players like the 3 ex-cats, they should be playing local footy, got to get better than that.

Esava actually looked like a competent defender last year. Francis, Evans, and Narkle were regularly the sub when they played. I wouldn’t say we lost finals because of the subs, it’s a bit deeper than bad fringe players, don’t you think?

 

[Drunkcat]

Esava actually looked like a competent defender last year. Francis, Evans, and Narkle were regularly the sub when they played. I wouldn’t say we lost finals because of the subs, it’s a bit deeper than bad fringe players, don’t you think?

Yes them 3 and others had bad games you need 22 giving something, just like us we make the finals all the time, and some years we have a good 17 and then an average last 6 players.

 

[Foucault1989]

I propose all 17 other teams make a pact to throw their games against port next year. He could be extended again by June if we all just do our little bit.

I'd happily let Port win a Grand Final. It'd be the best of Big Footy.

 

[rainwizard39]

Yes them 3 and others had bad games you need 22 giving something, just like us we make the finals all the time, and some years we have a good 17 and then an average last 6 players.

As I said earlier, with the inside 50 game plan being bad, unsurprisingly, all the players who played the worst like you’re saying were our forwards like Esava, Evans, Narkle, Mead, and Dixon. Isn’t that funny?

 

[Alwaysacrow]

Sign him on for another 10 years please.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I mean he's done pretty well with the list he has.

You are right in that it has too many flakey spuds (a couple that used to be Cats) but after that long as coach it's a list he is responsible for. And he chose to bring those players in.

 

[T2B_]

You are right in that it has too many flakey spuds (a couple that used to be Cats) but after that long as coach it's a list he is responsible for. And he chose to bring those players in.

Yeah he certainly has a hand in it. But what about all the other staff?

 

[Leather Poisoning]

There aren't many coaches that can last a decade plus without a grand final appearance. I think Malthouse did 9 seasons at Collingwood without a grand final, but finally got there in 2010. Are there many (any?) others?

 

[JoondalupJ]

Not trying to be biased, but I think Port stacks up well. Our midfield and defence are no worse than the Swans and Lions. Our forwards are trash outside of Georgiades and Rioli; Lions have us covered easily there. Sweet slightly outdid Grundy last night, has been super underrated all year, and I would put him over Grundy and McInerney.

I get it’s easy to trash port after last night but I bet you wouldn’t say we don’t stack up to the swans when we smashed them by 100+ in round 21.

Reality is that game plan was complete *** last night typical game where we just bomb away inside 50 with no other plan of attack.

Rose coloured glasses. No plan of attack? Why?
I thought Sydney looked more like they actually wanted the ball.

Its disappointing that the result was pretty well known before the first siren went to start it.

How many freekicks were awarded last night, forget who got the rub just the
whistle whistle whistle whistle , every time almost, that players went up to mark or defend against a mark and some one gets a break away on the ground off the pack, one of these parking inspector trigger happy umpires finds some tiggy touchwood penalty
Now we all understand there are rules but some are so grey they are able to be perceived in so many different ways and angles.
That these umpires are paying basketball fouls instead of genuine contact frees, and most are unknown to the audience.
Who is counting this game stifling petty free kick regime.
There were free kicks galore, last night and the game is looking "helped " along a bit, and the only satisfactory thing was Port got their come-uppence and Hinkley made a fool of himself, last week. Bit of bias sorry, but really the free kick whistle is just ruining this sport. Umpires cause wins and losses, not players as they sometimes have no idea what they've done.
We will see GF's if this keeps up regularly be decided by frees?
Four umpires, is a stupidity I do not understand?
Why the AFL decided this was a good idea, is beyond me, but every time that bleeding whistle blows .
about two thirds of the umpire decisions are not known by the people at the game and the TV audienceand the likesof the commentators are too scared to make a comment.
The rules don't fit this contact sport. And it wins and loses matches. For everyone! .

Surely others see this ,

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Rose coloured glasses. No plan of attack? Why?
I thought Sydney looked more like they actually wanted the ball.

Its disappointing that the result was pretty well known before the first siren went to start it.

How many freekicks were awarded last night, forget who got the rub just the
whistle whistle whistle whistle , every time almost, that players went up to mark or defend against a mark and some one gets a break away on the ground off the pack, one of these parking inspector trigger happy umpires finds some tiggy touchwood penalty
Now we all understand there are rules but some are so grey they are able to be perceived in so many different ways and angles.
That these umpires are paying basketball fouls instead of genuine contact frees, and most are unknown to the audience.
Who is counting this game stifling petty free kick regime.
There were free kicks galore, last night and the game is looking "helped " along a bit, and the only satisfactory thing was Port got their come-uppence and Hinkley made a fool of himself, last week. Bit of bias sorry, but really the free kick whistle is just ruining this sport. Umpires cause wins and losses, not players as they sometimes have no idea what they've done.
We will see GF's if this keeps up regularly be decided by frees?
Four umpires, is a stupidity I do not understand?
Why the AFL decided this was a good idea, is beyond me, but every time that bleeding whistle blows .
about two thirds of the umpire decisions are not known by the people at the game and the TV audienceand the likesof the commentators are too scared to make a comment.
The rules don't fit this contact sport. And it wins and loses matches. For everyone! .

Surely others see this ,

A few of the finals have been over-officiated in the first quarter/half and then under-officiated in the second half

That's going off feel rather than stats - but would be interested to see if the free count has been less in second halves across the 7 finals so far

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I'm never gonna be against a guy getting paid. Stay there until they want to pay you out. Not your fault you managed to finesse like an extra five years out of this club.

 

[rainwizard39]

Rose coloured glasses. No plan of attack? Why?
I thought Sydney looked more like they actually wanted the ball.

Its disappointing that the result was pretty well known before the first siren went to start it.

How many freekicks were awarded last night, forget who got the rub just the
whistle whistle whistle whistle , every time almost, that players went up to mark or defend against a mark and some one gets a break away on the ground off the pack, one of these parking inspector trigger happy umpires finds some tiggy touchwood penalty
Now we all understand there are rules but some are so grey they are able to be perceived in so many different ways and angles.
That these umpires are paying basketball fouls instead of genuine contact frees, and most are unknown to the audience.
Who is counting this game stifling petty free kick regime.
There were free kicks galore, last night and the game is looking "helped " along a bit, and the only satisfactory thing was Port got their come-uppence and Hinkley made a fool of himself, last week. Bit of bias sorry, but really the free kick whistle is just ruining this sport. Umpires cause wins and losses, not players as they sometimes have no idea what they've done.
We will see GF's if this keeps up regularly be decided by frees?
Four umpires, is a stupidity I do not understand?
Why the AFL decided this was a good idea, is beyond me, but every time that bleeding whistle blows .
about two thirds of the umpire decisions are not known by the people at the game and the TV audienceand the likesof the commentators are too scared to make a comment.
The rules don't fit this contact sport. And it wins and loses matches. For everyone! .

Surely others see this ,

Sounds like somebody didn’t see the game. Even the commentary talked about our forward entries all night being bad, so it clearly wasn’t just me.

Literally, our first goal came from an off-the-ball free, so I don’t know why you talk about the umpires.

I just don’t know why it’s hard for some people to see how bad Hinkley is. After watching him for 12 years, I think I’ve seen enough to judge him well. Too many don’t actually watch our games; instead, they just look at the ladder position and think he’s good.

I’ll ask this, what change did Hinkley make that you saw when our forward 50 entries weren’t working? I saw Longmire change Swans attack style after Aliir was a brick wall in the first quarter.

 

[WesternSydneyHawk]

Collude to get Port to 12-0 and in first place on the ladder so Kenny gets a mid year extension then straight sets them in the finals as usual.

You don't even need collusion to achieve this.

Just get Ginni to post something about Port losing on Twitter or Instagram each week.

Port will come out firing. 12-0.

Once Ken re-signs, just confiscate Jack's phone, and mission accomplished!

 

[Anyonebutken]

Board members are talking amongst themselves today, there is a split amongst them those who want Ken gone and those who are content for him to stay.
There has never been a split like this before I think it's 50- 50 Ken still being coach come mid next week. My feel is that he is gone

 

[ibd77]

I'd happily let Port win a Grand Final. It'd be the best of Big Footy.

Can BF handle smug Port posters for 12 months?

 

[ibd77]

Board members are talking amongst themselves today, there is a split amongst them those who want Ken gone and those who are content for him to stay.
There has never been a split like this before I think it's 50- 50 Ken still being coach come mid next week. My feel is that he is gone

Only if the board members actually ask the biggest stakeholders of the club, their paying members.

 

[WearyCrow]

Insane to me that the media clowns give the senior coach a pass in his twelfth year because they argue the list is bad. If he has built a bad list over twelve years that should be reason enough to sack people, Hinkley included, for allowing it to happen.

For some reason the obvious follow-up as to what might change about this mediocre list with their senior coach in his 13th year never seems to be part of the conversation.

 

[Khmerhawk]

There aren't many coaches that can last a decade plus without a grand final appearance. I think Malthouse did 9 seasons at Collingwood without a grand final, but finally got there in 2010. Are there many (any?) others?

Malthouse coached the 2002 and 2003 grand finals.

 

[King_Tredrea]

It's funny watching people pick apart the list lol. Any percieved deficiencies with the list are Uncle Kenny's deficiencies. We've been topping up every single off season for a decade to save his job.

 

[Spook]

Any real source to this? West Coast gonna offer Lord Kenny a godfather deal?

It was prefaced with “I believe” so no source……. Well a mate who is a Port member told me

 

[toomanysquibs]

There aren't many coaches that can last a decade plus without a grand final appearance. I think Malthouse did 9 seasons at Collingwood without a grand final, but finally got there in 2010. Are there many (any?) others?

Ken is the record holder, officially.

Most unsuccessful coach in history in terms of games coached vs. a grand final appearance.

I hope he's signed up forever, not because I necessarily think Port fans need to suffer, but just because I want to see the entire Hawthorn team making airplane arms and mocking Ken as they walk off next time we beat them.

They'd only need to do it once and the entire MCG would do it after a win against Ken. Would be glorious.

Apologies to Port fans and the players, some of who looked to wonder what the hell he was doing going after players post win.