Lance Franklin - 2014

[Freo2012]

The word on the street is that he is considering giving the NBA a shot with the LA Lakers and hoping to launch a reality show: Buddy Does Hollywood

seems about as likely as staying at the hawks

this is going to be so good to watch - the angst by the Hawk supporters now - imagine once the 2013 season starts

 

[Hawks1523]

There is angst? I highly doubt Franklin is going anywhere. You can throw up your scenarios and spin it all anyway you like. Oh free agency, more money blah blah. It's more likely he will stay than leave, you can clutch at any straws you want. I expect him to sign, and am quite confident it'll happen.

If for some unkown reason it doesn't and he leaves, while it would suck, life goes on. The club and fans move on and deal with it. Sitting here with 15 pages of spinning a story from, really, not a lot is seems to be more and more common on here. The off season is horribly boring around these parts.

 

[Patron]

Do freo supporters actually think they are going to get him? Dreamers.

 

[se17enteen]

Do freo supporters actually think they are going to get him? Dreamers.

No

 

[Pessimistic]

Just wanted to pour a little more scorn on the wellingham angle.

I cant think of one friend or colleague in my entire life who I would have followed around like some kind of puppy

 

[Patron]

Just wanted to pour a little more scorn on the wellingham angle.

I cant think of one friend or colleague in my entire life who I would have followed around like some kind of puppy

guess you don't have many friends badoom tss... Na neither have i.

 

[Pessimistic]

Loneliness is my friend......

 

[Blues_Man]

Just wanted to pour a little more scorn on the wellingham angle.

I cant think of one friend or colleague in my entire life who I would have followed around like some kind of puppy

How about lovers ?

 

[Hodge is God]

How about lovers ?

Nah mate.

Gibbo is the man for Buddy

 

[apuchar]

• He loves Hawthorn, and has previously turned down significantly more lucrative deals before
• Hawthorn are currently in a premiership window, and who know where we will be at that time
• Hawthorn have a host of stars to retire in the next 4 or 5 years, so Buddy might get a pretty big deal
• His family have moved down to Melbourne, and he has been here quite a long time, so a large number of his friends/family are here
• He has previously mentioned how much he loves Melbourne, and does not want to move away from 'the home of footy'

That third point of the op is ridiculous. Of course Hawthorn would be in talks with him when his contract runs out in a year. What chance would we have of keeping him if we hadn't at least begun talking. Just because a player hasn't re-signed 5 years before their contract expires, doesn't mean they will leave. Cloke has a history of pretending he's going to leave to get a better deal, and even he re-signed. So many stars have re-signed during their final year of contract, stop trying to blow this up into something it's not. Just cos Cloke is a greedy bastard, doesn't mean that everyone is.

Umm and Goddard.

 

[apuchar]

An Ablett like offer put forward to Franklin and he would be out the door, no doubt.

Can't see Buddy leaving the Hawks, but after next season, Freo would be shaping up to be the next big thing while the Hawks may be on the slip a bit. Buddy may look at that and the money and think, "Why not?"

The way things are at Freo at the moment we would only be the next big thing for a year or two. We haven't planned for the loss of Pavlich and McPharlin and we don't even appear to be trying to draft for the future, so coming to Freo would be of no long-term benefit to Buddy and i personally don't think he would play the same role as Pavlich when Pav retired. He has a lot of support around him with Roughhead, Hale, Gunston, Rioli and Lewis. He won't have that at Freo when Pavs gone.

 

[apuchar]

Wait, we are nervous that the best player in the league will leave our club?

Bullshit.

Must be all the Brownlow's he has won that makes you think that.

 

[Off The Couch]

Must be all the Brownlow's he has won that makes you think that.

Based on that criteria you must struggle to find anything positive about pavlich at all

 

[Superstar swan]

No way buddy leaves hawks . If a big name was to leave
Any club I'd think jack riewoldt would be one that could be tempted if the tigers don't make finals this year.

 

[JunglistPosse]

As much as I would love to have him, we won't leave the Hawks...loves Melbournes, loves Hawthorn.

 

[Freo2012]

As much as I would love to have him, we won't leave the Hawks...loves Melbournes, loves Hawthorn.

Yep, but no reason for Sydney, Freo and maybe GWS to help him earn his max from them

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Yep, but no reason for Sydney, Freo and maybe GWS to help him earn his max from them

You can dream, eh?

 

[Freo2012]

You can dream, eh?

funny when they are elite and club relies on them so much (onfield and off) that supporters believe they somehow will accept less than market rate and have more loyalty than a middle of the road player that gets cut with no thought of loyalty by the club concerned - double standards

Free Agency removes a bit of that club one-sided bias and gives the players a lot more options to determine their own destiny, expect many changes of elite players due to FA

 

[Pessimistic]

seems about as likely as staying at the hawks

this is going to be so good to watch - the angst by the Hawk supporters now - imagine once the 2013 season starts

So that's it ? Just a troll ?

 

[Freo2012]

So that's it ? Just a troll ?

no just a troll - that is a side benefit - real issue is that clubs are chasing Buddy, and he will be paid a lot more than he currently is, no matter whether he stays or goes

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

funny when they are elite and club relies on them so much (onfield and off) that supporters believe they somehow will accept less than market rate and have more loyalty than a middle of the road player that gets cut with no thought of loyalty by the club concerned - double standards

Free Agency removes a bit of that club one-sided bias and gives the players a lot more options to determine their own destiny, expect many changes of elite players due to FA

Franklin has accepted less than market value his entire career. Quite a few Hawks have( there are currently 3 Hawks playing for $500,000 less per season than what they've been offered elsewhere.).

This belief that players at top clubs are going to cite FA as a chance to f**k over their mates for all the money they can get, or that clubs will change their list management and player payment structures just to keep one player happy is fanciful rubbish.

You can keep posting in this thread until your hearts content, troll all you like, but Franklin won't be going anywhere, and he won't be screwing the club for every penny to stay either.

 

[Pessimistic]

no just a troll - that is a side benefit - real issue is that clubs are chasing Buddy, and he will be paid a lot more than he currently is, no matter whether he stays or goes

Player entering his prime, productive years gets a substantial pay rise ? Staggering !!

The relevance of free agency here is it enables hawthorn to recruit role players, to stay at the top, which keeps Buddy Happy.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Good piece in The Age about the possiblity of introducing a franchise tag system similar to what the NFL have

AS THE AFL and its clubs review the inaugural free-agency period, Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley says it's time to consider the next step - introducing a ''franchise player'' whose salary is paid outside the salary cap.
''It's a logical progression to free agency. It's mutually beneficial and happens incidentally at the moment,'' Buckley says.
The franchise tag would reward a player for his on-field ability, while also reinforcing his importance in terms of marketing, outside of additional services agreements.
The franchise tag in America's NFL is used to restrict players from entering free agency. Once bestowed with the tag, a player must then be offered 120 per cent of his previous year's salary or at least the average of the top five players in the league at his position, whichever is the bigger pay day. If this model was followed, it could mean AFL player salaries would have to be publicly disclosed - something players have long bristled at.
Franchise players in the NFL fall into two categories - exclusive and non-exclusive. Exclusive means a player is paid an extra $1 million and cannot negotiate with other teams through the year.
Non-exclusive players can negotiate with other teams during the year and, should he decide to leave his former club, would receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.
The tag can be changed from season to season. How the system in the AFL would work remains debatable.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-face-of-football-20121110-295cj.html

 

[Cotchinsastar]

If fro try and spend to much money on buddy, it would be hard to keep fyfe and hill and the other young talent. I doubt it would happen though

 

[apuchar]

Based on that criteria you must struggle to find anything positive about pavlich at all

Never said he was the best player in the comp. Not sure how many fairest and bests Buddy has won, that may change my mind. Anyway relax, there was no cricket on and I was bored (should stay away from bigfooty when I am like that) and I watched Buddy in the Preliminary final which may have tainted my view on his ability as a key forward a little. I'm sure he doesn't get all his goals lagging out the back of the pack or getting on the end of a brilliant Rioli handball. He would have won me over in the grand final if he hadn't of been on on injured defender (can't be sure if that had an impact) and hadn't kicked something like 2 -7.