Preview Likely retirees 2024

[tiger_tough]

Calls that Hawkins played a year too many are having a laugh.

He would still be a walk up best 22 player for every team.

People are soooo quick to forget.


Geelong won their first 6 games and were flying, included in those wins were vs Brisbane, Dogs and Carlton, no one was calling for Hawkins' head.

Then they lost 4 out of the next 5, people are chatting. They are giving up some big scores, nothing to do with Hawkins.

If Geelong had a midfield that could get it in to Hawkins quick enough, no one would be talking about him, he's still a beast with an awesome set shot routine and I'd personally still rather him right now over most other full forwards.

Give us Hawkins over Billy Frampton

Love ya Bill

wut

 

[Daka]

“Recency bias”

Tom was winning flags before Jack even got close to finals.

A lot of people have always rated Tom over Jack. His forward ruck craft that he developed & perfected over the past 4-5 years only added to his game.

When Jack was winning Coleman's no one was rating Hawkins over him.

 

[TRP1996]

“Recency bias”

Tom was winning flags before Jack even got close to finals.

A lot of people have always rated Tom over Jack. His forward ruck craft that he developed & perfected over the past 4-5 years only added to his game.

I mean... Riewoldt played most games for a Richmond side that finished pretty close to finals in 2008 (9th, half a game out of the 8), which is before Hawkins won any flags?

 

[terrybull]

That’s the difference between the two.

Jack was ok stopping just short of 350 games and 800 goals for the benefit of the club.

Hawkins shamelessly played on for himself and is now a complete liability.

Wish now Jack stayed on for 350 games and maybe 800 goals, would bring a little light moment in a dark year. Plus he would have played with Dusty on his 300th.

I think Hawkins and Geelong know when he’s time is up, and the way things are going this year for the Cats then maybe a record or two can put some bright light into the season.
They are still in finals contention and who knows maybe Hawkins will rip it up in the Finals like KB did for the Tigers in 1980.

 

[Lunchtime]

Hawkins having much worse year than Jack Riewoldt who everyone last year was saying played on 1 year too many & in actual reality was a good contributor last year.

You love to see it too because a lot of people were starting to rate Hawkins over Jack recency bias.

Hawkins has played 12 games this season. These are the stats for both Hawkins and Riewoldt after playing 12 games:

Games: 12	Jack Riewoldt	Tom Hawkins
Goals	23	15
Goals Average	1.9	1.2
1+ Goals in a Game	9	7
2+ Goals in a Game	7	4
3+ Goals in a Game	3	2
4+ Goals in a Game	3	2
5+ Goals in a Game	1	0
Goalless Games	3	5
Possessions	113	109
Possessions Average	9.4	9
Total Marks	54	35
Total Marks Average	4.5	2.9
Contested Marks	22	12
Contested Marks Average	1.8	1
Marks Inside 50	31	22
Marks Inside 50 Average	2.5	1.8
Tackles	27	19
Tackles Average	2.2	1.5
Goal Assists	5	5
Goal Assists Average	0.4	0.4
One Percenters	25	16
One Percenters Average	2	1.3

 

[The Nostradamus]

Tex walker

Seems crows not going to offer him a new deal

 

[The Nostradamus]

Been very quiet on this front so far but Sam Reid

20

Sam Reid

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

has retired

 

[Ed_Gein]

Been very quiet on this front so far but Sam Reid has retired

People have forgotten about him since he hasn't played since the GF loss to Cats 21 months ago.

Pity, he could've been a very handy player if not for constant injuries. 8 of his 14 seasons he played 10 games or less.

 

[Testekill]

I suspect Keath calls it a day, 32 with a history of soft tissue injuries and now has another body in front of him from playing back for the Bulldogs. Probably a soft retirement where he gets delisted and puts his hand up but doesn't get a second chance.
I expected Duryea to call it a day as well but he's tracking very well and is playing like when he first came in.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Martins given up
Surely he retires

 

[Sttew]

Maybe the Great Gary Rohan.

Hasn’t lost any speed.

Bews will retire

 

[Rich01]

Hawkins is the obvious one.
He could be a wildcard for the cats come finals time if he can draw on his enormous talent from years gone past.

But from what he’s put up this year, he could also be a liability as he seems to have lost his ability to hold his ground and take the marks inside 50 that he used to convert so regularly.

Coach Scott is a massive fan still and I think he backs him in.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Looking at the 32+ year olds this year and can’t recall a worse list of players in that age demographic

What’s the norm on retirees by number? Reckon there would have to be a lot this year

 

[Freddy Swift]

Martins given up
Surely he retires

I think he should retire. He’s done it all and has no more to give unfortunately. Owes us nothing.

 

[janty]

Wish now Jack stayed on for 350 games and maybe 800 goals, would bring a little light moment in a dark year. Plus he would have played with Dusty on his 300th.

I wish Jack stayed on for 350 games so I wouldn’t have to listen to him call games.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Brandon Ellis

4

Brandon Ellis

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

12.9

5star

HB

5.6

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

1.4

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

1.0

3star

has retired effective immediately

 

[ioppolo]

Brandon Ellis has retired effective immediately

Out of favour at GC and 30. Makes sense.

251 games and two premierships. Geez that's some career.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Dusty retired

 

[Altum Volantes]

Should only be Gaff from WCE…unless he is determined to try his chances of getting picked up elsewhere.

Sheed and Darling both have 2025 contracts and I doubt they push either out the door (Sheed for midfield depth, Jack coming off a BOG shows he can still go…occasionally).

Maybe Cripps? His form has been very shaky since mid season - I would give him the tap but he’s got another year also.

 

[windyhill]

Should only be Gaff from WCE…unless he is determined to try his chances of getting picked up elsewhere.

Sheed and Darling both have 2025 contracts and I doubt they push either out the door (Sheed for midfield depth, Jack coming off a BOG shows he can still go…occasionally).

Maybe Cripps? His form has been very shaky since mid season - I would give him the tap but he’s got another year also.

Unbelievable decline Gaff. The punch , missing the flag, sad to see. Gun when on song.

 

[Jeff76]

Stanley Hawkins and 2E from Cats, maybe even Duncan as well.


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[The Nostradamus]

Hawkins announces retirement at years end

 

[The Nostradamus]

Gaff retiring after next 2 games

 

[FreoGirl]

Gaff retiring after next 2 games

he might not even get a game

 

[The Nostradamus]

he might not even get a game

They mentioned they are playing him to qualify for afl life membership