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Surprised that Fremantle has finally improved?
Coach Lions - Has the Fagan era already peaked?
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Brisbane have always been pretenders
I’d suggest the Grand final probably has more to do with it. Tonight was basically the same as last week.
Won away finals the last two years and made a GF…bit rich mate
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That's why i said Brisbane aren't good as us we covered Rance with Grimes, Vlastuin, Broad & Astbury we had depth.
Losing Rance was massive though everyone was writing us off & we strugged for a while after he went down he was the voice the general.
Completely incorrect. We are squandering a flag window as we speak.
Rance is one of the most overrated defenders in history.
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You just proved to me that u know nothing about the game.
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A team can only have so many cracks at the top 4/semis/prelims/gf's before their best players are older and because they have finished high their draft picks haven't been good so they fall down the ladder. Brisbane should have won in 2020 when they had a home GF but blew it and last year was a coin flip they could have won
Its very difficult to climb the mountain every year your side been top 4 since 2018? give or take thats 6 years which is a very good run at it.
0-2 is hardly the end of the world we started 1-4 and still managed to finish top and make a GF.
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Kiddy us a huge loss. No doubt about it.
The only factor going in the opposite direction for Brisbane is their recent good fortune with the father-son rule. This time next year they'll likely have two recent top 3 picks in the Ashcroft boys and another top 12 pick in Jaspa Fletcher. You only have to look at how quickly Collingwood turned it around with the acquisition of their F/S pick Nick Daicos to see how powerful it can be. The Ashcroft boys are the real deal so Brisbane would have to do a lot wrong to mess it up with those two on their list.
That is a very good point i forgot about that.
Like you said they won without him. Multiple times in fact. Media darling of the highest order which inflated his standing in the game.
Edit just looked - one B&F, two runners up. Seems like your coaching staff also knew there were far more important players around him.
It is but at some point the bubble has to burst and we drop a little. I was hoping we had one more crack at it but if not so be it.
Well ... this is the first time ever that two Grand Finalists have gone 0-2
And ... the last time a losing Grand Finalist played in the Grand Final the next year was, I believe, Hawthorn in '13?
We get it wrong most years, just assuming one of the Grand Finalists will be there again when the odds are somewhat against it.
And ... the last time a losing Grand Finalist played in the Grand Final the next year was, I believe, Hawthorn in '13?
We get it wrong most years, just assuming one of the Grand Finalists will be there again when the odds are somewhat against it.
Ashcroft x 2 is a big cheap code and so much of their core - Harris, Hipwood, McCluggage, Berry, Starcevich, Bailey, Rayner aren't going anywhere.
But I think it's fair to say there's a watch on Zorko, Neale, McCarthy, Daniher, Cameron all heading passed 30.
Aside from Zorko who surely hits a wall soon the others have a lot of good footy left in them but that's the difference makers in the Lions forward line as well as Neale who's so important in the way he wins clean possession in tight and puts runners in to space so nicely.
I wouldn't be panicked about this year or the window. Both things can turn pretty quickly.
But I think it's fair to say there's a watch on Zorko, Neale, McCarthy, Daniher, Cameron all heading passed 30.
Aside from Zorko who surely hits a wall soon the others have a lot of good footy left in them but that's the difference makers in the Lions forward line as well as Neale who's so important in the way he wins clean possession in tight and puts runners in to space so nicely.
I wouldn't be panicked about this year or the window. Both things can turn pretty quickly.
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Brisbanes Peak in this current side was 2020-23.
Brisbane have some solid players. I dont see them making top 2 or top 4. I expect them to finish 5th to 8th now.
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Maybe but with their young talent and trade free agency rules now they can definitely be there about for most of the decade.
(It’s rd 1 their best is good enough I’m not writing them off this season yet)
(It’s rd 1 their best is good enough I’m not writing them off this season yet)
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Its a yes from me at this point. Just doesn't go hard enoguh on the team for them to improve to above a comfortable level of output
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I’d honestly be expecting Fremantle to be getting better. More of a reflection on them than Brisbane. Brisbane are getting used to the injury to Colman. Is that his spell it?
I reckon they’ll be fine.
I reckon they’ll be fine.
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