List Mgmt. List Management Discussion for 2021

[Strapping Young Lad]

We still have a rookie spot open, yes...

Can we add a rookie outside of the draft?

 

[eldorado]

Can we add a rookie outside of the draft?

Im guessing the SSP is the next opportunity, but I don't know

 

[Pessimistic]

The thing that excites me with this list is free agency. I think the list is full of good honest citizens who will play at a good level, but with the exception of 2-3 players lacks genuine star power. We built the list of our golden era through the draft and topped up. I think this time round when we believe we are close to contending we will go on a shopping spree. Just my take

most of the draftees suggest they can do two positions, just like in the 12-16 era (Sammy himself bought massively into that so I don't see a revolution happening

 

[MrPremiership]

Im guessing the SSP is the next opportunity, but I don't know

your guess is correct

 

[Pessimistic]

Are we bored with our new toys already?

 

[MrPremiership]

After all the rukus about our delistings, especially Cousins.....none got picked up

Looks like we've made the right call so far.

 

[Dewnior]

Haasbroek would have gone onto our Cat B list

Still can right? It will be interesting to see if he trains with the squad over summer...

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Still can right? It will be interesting to see if he trains with the squad over summer...

The report i read, is he is training with Nash at the moment. An expects to be in Australia by Jan 2022. I just can not remember where i read it.

Edit I am confusing Fion with Paaul.

 

[Brant]

With everything done an dusted for the time being, where does everyone see our current list holes? Taking into account whos developing and who could be shifted around, do we have a glaring hole atm?

Another young KPD (although we have KPF depth), possibly another Gunston type, and that superstar hybrid Mid/Fwd would be icing on the cake. Ultimately I think we still lack a few of those game-changing/match-winning superstars in the mould of a Dusty/Petracca/Bont/Gawn/Buddy but hope we find them soon.

I don't think we need a 'young' KPD - even a 26/27yr old could give us 5yrs & buy more time. Darcy Moore as a FA should do it!

Our forwardline mix needs time/games together, more than it needs more talent (IMO). A superstar CHF would certainly be handy, of course - but these guys need time.

If he stays fit for 12 months, Wingard can be a game breaking MID/FWD or FWD/MID. Another would be bloody handy!

IMO:
- KPD
- CHF
- 2x A Grade Mids

*we could well have these (or some of them) on the list right now - just yet to fully develop.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Can't wait to see CJ, Day, DGB, Scrimshaw & Impey intercepting/rebounding out of defence. What a sight!

I dont want them all intercepting, they will spoil each other.

One at a time would suffice.

 

[Dewnior]

The thing that excites me with this list is free agency. I think the list is full of good honest citizens who will play at a good level, but with the exception of 2-3 players lacks genuine star power. We built the list of our golden era through the draft and topped up. I think this time round when we believe we are close to contending we will go on a shopping spree. Just my take

That will come. We are effectively 2005 and Franklin, Rough and Lewis were rookies then. That 2005 side also lacked genuine star power and had to be developed / nurtured over 2-3 years. Keep in mind Rioli, Breust, Gunna came later. Going into 2022 we still have Wingard, Breust, Sicily and Gunston on our list with JOM and TOM as the rocks.

The good news is that there's half a dozen or so players that could become anything.

Day, CJ, Brockman, Jeka, Morris, S Mitchell, Saunders and Butler all seem to have potential X factor which if nurtured properly could yield a similar crop in 3-4 years And then you've got the rocks Scrimshaw, DGB, Hardwick and potentially Kosi & Ward.

So if you look at it in perspective we are potentially only 2-3 drafts and trading periods away from the feeling we all had in 2007/8.

 

[Blackhawk42]

A key position defender is probably the only glaring hole if you consider the next 5 years. Hopefully in 12 months time I can be saying Callow and perhaps a big name free agent has this covered.

We have depth in every other position, but it just remains to be seen how elite the players in those positions can become.

I'm pretty happy with our key forwards if I'm being honest. I have high hopes that a combination of Kosi, Lewis and Jeka can take us into the next decade.
If Lewis and Kosi can combine for 60 goals this coming season we'll be in a great place (that's only asking for 11 more than this year).

 

[HODGEYROAD]

After all the rukus about our delistings, especially Cousins.....none got picked up

Looks like we've made the right call so far.

Did people actually complain with our delistings ?

 

[Slainte]

Did people actually complain with our delistings ?

Not that much as I recollect. Cousins had a few supporters but most posters thought they had all been given a reasonable opportunity to show their wares and were found wanting one way or another. Hanrahan had a bit of flare but struggled to impact over the course of a game. Cousins was not far off but not improving. Greaves was honest and tidy but undersized and not especially quick.

 

[eldorado]

Greaves was honest and tidy but undersized and not especially quick.

That's not what I was told! Serious 'jets', apparently...

 

[Roger Rogerson]

It's just great thinking about the side and not having to consider Cegs TOB and Burger with all due respect.

Throw in Cuz Hartley and Ollie and there are spots in 2022 available for players to come in who have higher ceilings and can hopefully cement roles whereas these guys couldn't.

It's interesting at rhe draft we have placed a premium on endurance and Ollie who was arguably playing his best football as a mid was flicked.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Did people actually complain with our delistings ?

Here, no. Social media - it was bizarre with a chorus of whinging about the delistings. Even Teia Miles had a whinge about Hanrahan’s delisting - he may have deleted the post however.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Here, no. Social media - it was bizarre with a chorus of whinging about the delistings. Even Teia Miles had a whinge about Hanrahan’s delisting - he may have deleted the post however.

Did he really? That's pretty funny.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Did he really? That's pretty funny.

I had a giggle at the time. Not sure if he deleted it if his own accord or someone called him out privately but I think I recall the comment disappeared inside a few hours.

Edit: Correction, Teia’s post is still there and in the snippets I posted below.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

This time next year our list will be unrecognisable, which i am happy about indeed. Our champions moved on and the second tire simply were not up to it, no matter how much Clarko tried to polishes up the game plan.

Potential changes this time next year 2022. Possible retirement: McEvoy, Hartigan, Gunston, Shiels. Under pressure: Howe, Nash, Phillips.

 

[hawkman]

Let's see how Lewis goes with his new leveled-up physical form. IMO Jeka is probably more suited to CHF given he's a great field kick and is more mobile than Lewis.

Thought Lewis played his best game for the club at CHF against the Dogs

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Here’s some samples of the cooked brains of Instagram. My favourites are those threatening their membership or support of the club over fringe players being delisted. Can only imagine the demented emails and phone calls the club must get over these kinds of things.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Here’s some samples of the cooked brains of Instagram. My favourites are those threatening their membership or support of the club over fringe players being delisted. Can only imagine the demented emails and phone calls the club must get over these kinds of things.
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Clearly these Hawk fans were not around when Clarkson first arrived and went mad cutting players. They have no idea what a tough time is or what it takes for success.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Clearly these Hawk fans were not around when Clarkson first arrived and went mad cutting players. They have no idea what a tough time is or what it takes for success.

I mean I’d almost get it if Mitchell had cut a best 22 player unexpectedly - but those 3 have now all been replaced by more enticing prospects and yet people are going off like we got rid of someone who just finished top 10 in the Brownlow.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I mean I’d almost get it if Mitchell had cut a best 22 player unexpectedly - but those 3 have now all been replaced by more enticing prospects and yet people are going off like we got rid of someone who just finished top 10 in the Brownlow.

I say this with the up most respect to those cut, as great fellas for sure. Yet not one of these players where picked by another AFL club. Surely if the Hawk got it that wrong the players would be at an afl club now.

An i wish Mitchell could of went a bit harder. How ever contracts prevented him from doing so.