Lonie_From_50 - AFL Top 50 2005

[worthy]

Crawford was at no.51 - It was out of he and Scarlett for number 50 (I shortlisted 50, which actually was 51). I figured I don't have enough Tall defenders, and Scarlett got the nod because of that

Fair enough, i thought he was consistently better than N. Stevens but as i said, good list.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Bulldog1954 and worthy stole my thunder.

Johnson should be a bit higher, and O'Keefe shouldn't be in the top 50. Cross was the second most improved behind Rutten, with Gilbee and Tuck next.

Crawford definitely deserves to be included.

Nathan Brown obviously hasn't been included because he spent a large majority of the season out with injury. I would have thought Bruce did enough to qualify, though.

All in all, that is one of the best lists I have seen, Lonie. I don't really have a lot of negative things to add.

Well summed up.

yes, i guess i was a bit harsh on Brad Johnson who is such a consistent footballer, but the fact that O'Keefe really showed alot, and I am a fan of his, I couldn't help myself. I knew that was the one part of criticsm i would get, and it sure was.

Nathan Brown isn't in there, obvious reasons, because, it was hard to, you know, chuck him in there because we all know he would have been top 5 if he played the whole season. I was thinking of putting an injury list up but too much mucking around and finding a criteria. Brown played 10 games, Buckley played 11 games, maybe a criteria of missing half the season through injury, just so i can fit bucks in there.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

I'd have Scarlett in my top 20, but apart from that nothing else really stood out.

Well, i am sure Scarlett is lucky to make the top 50 in this case. Top 20 last season, yes! but not this year.

 

[Bloods]

Your saying leo Barry is better than James Clement?? no way buddy.

Leo's a level above Clement 'buddy'.

Few biased doggies' supporters around.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Leo's a level above Clement 'buddy'.

Few biased doggies' supporters around.

Wouldn't say a level.

 

[skywalk750]

How did Joel 'uncosted possessions on HBF' Bowden get ahead of 12 players?

 

[Murray]

Define "Most Improved" and what you criteria you based your call on!

Improved the most

 

[harvs]

milne isn't in the top 200 let alone top 50 but most names that should be in there are i suppose

Oh dear.

Deserves to be in there, second best small forward over the duration of the last 5 years.

 

[col44]

Your saying leo Barry is better than James Clement?? no way buddy.

I rate Clement highly but I would take Barry before him.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Improved the most

spot on,

Benno from Bewick - it is quite simple.

 

[guzroo]

Young Gun - Josh Drummond. Even though he was to old to be eligible for the for the rising star, in his first year of football he has shown that he is a skilful and classy player that will no doubt be a champion of the future.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Young Gun - Josh Drummond. Even though he was to old to be eligible for the for the rising star, in his first year of football he has shown that he is a skilful and classy player that will no doubt be a champion of the future.

yeah, for sure...but that is why i added the criteria, similar to the Rising Star (if not, exactly the same). Andrew Lovett would also get a mention in that case.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

How did Joel 'uncosted possessions on HBF' Bowden get ahead of 12 players?

I think the main question is.

How did Joel Bowden win All-Australian selection?
How did Joel Bowden win the Best & Fairest?

Why? Even though i don't agree with both his great honours, he did have a very good season, through my eyes.

 

[JADED]

Again, another fairly good review/article/opinion submitted by Lonie from 50.
Everyone would have a different list but yours is fine by me.

 

[apollo_creed]

Good list mate.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Few biased doggies' supporters around.

Do u think O'Keefe's better than Johnno do you?

 

[Benno From Berwick]

spot on,

Benno from Bewick - it is quite simple.

Fair enough.......

 

[ablettjnr]

No Joel Corey?

He did just win Geelongs B&F.

 

[Benno From Berwick]

Would Ben Rutten have been able to win the Rising Star if he'd played one less game?

 

[JohnWorsfold]

AFL Top 50 - 2005
50. Matthew Scarlett (Geel)
49. Scott Lucas (Ess)
48. Stephen Milne (St.K)
47. Trent Croad (Haw)
46. Mark Johnson (Ess)
45. Cameron Ling (Geel)
44. Brad Johnson (WB)
43. Nick Stevens (Carl)
42. Glen Archer (Kang)
41. Scott Thompson (Adel)
40. Lindsay Gilbee (WB)
39. Tyson Edwards (Adel)
38. Joel Bowden (Rich)
37. Adam Goodes (Syd)
36. Darren Milburn (Geel)
35. Mark Williams (Haw)
34. Chad Cornes (PA)
33. Daniel Kerr (WC)
32. Ryan O'Keefe (Syd)
31. Luke Power (BL)
30. Matthew Richardson (Rich)
29. David Wirrpunda (WC)
28. Lenny Hayes (St.K)
27. Shannon Grant (Kang)
26. James Clement (Coll)
25. Russell Robertson (Melb)
24. Jude Bolton (Syd)
23. Fraser Gehrig (St.K)
22. Jonathan Brown (BL)
21. Travis Johnstone (Melb)
20. Leo Barry (Syd)
19. Shane Tuck (Rich)
18. Warren Tredrea (PA)
17. Mark Ricciuto (Adel)
16. Ben Rutten (Adel)
15. Jason Akermanis (BL)
14. Kane Cornes (PA)
13. Peter Everitt (Haw)
12. Chris Judd (WC)
11. Brett Kirk (Syd)
10. Brent Harvey (Kang)
9. Luke Ball (St.K)
8. Dean Cox (WC)
7. Nick Dal Santo (St.K)
6. Simon Goodwin (Adel)
5. Luke Hodge (Haw)
4. Matthew Pavlich (Frem)
3. Scott West (WB)
2. Barry Hall (Syd)
1. Ben Cousins (WC)

Young Guns (under age of 21 at 1 Jan 2005 and played less than 10 games)
5. Will Minson (WB)
4. David Mundy (Frem)
3. Brock McLean (Melb)
2. Ryan Griffen (WB)
1. Brett Deledio (Rich)

Most Improved
5. Lewis Roberts-Thomson (Syd)
4. Amon Buchanan (Syd)
3. Lindsay Gilbee (WB)
2. Shane Tuck (Rich)
1. Ben Rutten (Adel)

You idiot were are the defenders you cant just go for all the flashy players without defenders teams would be nothing

 

[Jubair]

Young Guns (under age of 21 at 1 Jan 2005 and played less than 10 games)
5. Will Minson (WB)
4. David Mundy (Frem)
3. Brock McLean (Melb)
2. Ryan Griffen (WB)
1. Brett Deledio (Rich)

Why wasnt Jed Adcock in the top-5?? he was No.5 in the rising star.

 

[weagles_fan]

Beau Waters?

 

[Trav 20]

So Shane Tuck was better than Travis Johnstone and Lenny Hayes ? Hayes even averaged more disposals and I know who uses it better.

Generally pretty good Lonie, but despite Tuck's good year he's not a top 20 player. His workman like efforts not withstanding.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

I might over-rate Tuck, and as said earlier O'Keefe, but this is my list, so quite simply it is from my P.O.V

John Worsfold - A top 50 doesn't consist of 10 people from each position. A top 50 usually consists of only a couple of defenders, and Matty Scarlett was lucky. Get over it.

Joel Corey was short-listed, but once again, he didn't make the cut for top 50 like 10 others who quite easily could have got in.

My young guns is in my personal view, and I love the big man Will Minson, so he just slots in before Adcock, who i stood up for during the Kevin Bartlett incident and NAB Rising Star.

 

[guess_who]

Great Top 50 Lonie....O'Keefe a bit too high, but I know you like him,