Mark McVeigh suspended by club

[Burzum]

Senior player, bleeds for the club, no prior history of any of this type of behaviour, must win game.... so what do we do?

Suspend him.

FFS!!!

There are better ways to deal with this than punishing the whole team and the fans that ****ing buy memberships and want us to see our club play finals.

Bullshit decision.

And then he's stupid enough to go and do this...

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

What other ways do you suggest?

I think the correct decision was made, and quite frankly I believe it was a very easy one aswell. Yes Mark is one of our best but just because that's the case he should be exempt from what is the standard punishment because we've got a massive game coming up.

We should be angry with McVeigh, not the coach and the leadership group. Kudos to Knights for his no tolerance policy.

So if he has no history whatsoever why should he and the whole club be dealt so harshly.

I reckon you keep it in house, you give him some sort of reprimand with strict clauses, apologise to the team, etc, etc.

There are so many players that go out the night before but make it to training not at %100. Do we punish those guys too? I've seen plenty of our players out of late. The way we're headed is we'll get ourselves into a serious hole if we aren't careful.

Since when did every tom, dick and harry become psychologists? To many leaders, too many leadership groups and not enough focus on winning.

 

[Hencho]

...McVeigh can sit in the stands and feel aweful, work his arse off on the track and hope there is a spot for him in the team when he returns.

Should make him sit in the cheer squad!!!!!!!! Now that would win him some browny points!!!!!

 

[Ben the Gooner]

You'd think missing last week through absolute stupidity would have taught him something.

Absolutely ****ing moronic from a member of the leadership group.

 

[DapperDon]

So if he has no history whatsoever why should he and the whole club be dealt so harshly.

I reckon you keep it in house, you give him some sort of reprimand with strict clauses, apologise to the team, etc, etc.

There are so many players that go out the night before but make it to training not at %100. Do we punish those guys too? I've seen plenty of our players out of late. The way we're headed is we'll get ourselves into a serious hole if we aren't careful.

Since when did every tom, dick and harry become psychologists? To many leaders, too many leadership groups and not enough focus on winning.

So because he is a good player he gets better treatment? that's bullshit Kelvin and you know it. I'd hate to think what you'd be saying if Myers was the one in trouble.

 

[bombers2011]

Quote from The Age website:

'The Age has been told McVeigh was drinking heavily at a South Melbourne hotel until at least 3am. He notified the club later that morning he would not be attending the training session'

 

[bombers2011]

I don't think this hurts McVeigh's chances of becoming Captain. By the time the captaincy is up for grabs, he'll be back playing great football and these past few weeks will be all but forgotten.

I totally disagree with you on this, people around the club don't forget this kind of stuff. Jobe will be the next captain for sure.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Not overly good news at all.

McVeigh can kiss that captaincy opportunity goodbye now.

 

[Valve Bounce]

Knights is showing a ZERO TOLERANCE policy and that could only benefit us in the long run.

Actually, this will benefit the team greatly in the short term. Just think about this: Hille injured in the first few minutes and the team picks up with Ryder playing a blinder.
Jobe injured in second quarter and team picks up and Welsh plays a blinder.

Suddenly, Essendon have discovered we have a great team with every member chipping in to meet any adversity.

So Mark McVeigh wants to be a Genital Cranium, let the team pick up the slack. One of the younger players will come in and the team will lift.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

He has now confirmed himself as a knob. I would suspend him for the next few matches and not just the game against the Pies. Come on down Myers.

 

[bomberstomake8]

i have got to say i am really confused with this situation, it has been reported that mcveigh did let the club know beforehand that he will miss the monday session, so what was the clubs response to that? did they then say no that is not acceptible and you would miss the weekends game if that did occur or did they just say ok then suspended him..

if he let the club know and they said it was ok then i dont see why a suspension is needed however if they said no and he did it anyway then that is a different matter.

the club has to be senstive on these issues though there are events that occur that a player (especially a senior player) should be let off for.

 

[Mudflap]

So if he has no history whatsoever why should he and the whole club be dealt so harshly.

I reckon you keep it in house, you give him some sort of reprimand with strict clauses, apologise to the team, etc, etc.

There are so many players that go out the night before but make it to training not at %100. Do we punish those guys too? I've seen plenty of our players out of late. The way we're headed is we'll get ourselves into a serious hole if we aren't careful.

Since when did every tom, dick and harry become psychologists? To many leaders, too many leadership groups and not enough focus on winning.

Because "we may" scrape into the 8 you want to throw out all disciplinary processes, due to an overrated Mcveigh may help us win one game of Football. The standard the Football dept is trying to set has nothing to do with a 28/29 yr suppossed leader it's focussed around 19-23 year old kids that will be there to hopefully provide sustained "disciplined" success.

Great example SPIKE, well done. Next time the cameras are on you gather the team in and make up some crap that we are Essendon.

Thrilled, any chance of Captaincy... GONE.

 

[Kong]

There are so many players that go out the night before but make it to training not at %100. Do we punish those guys too? I've seen plenty of our players out of late. The way we're headed is we'll get ourselves into a serious hole if we aren't careful.

Alternatively, the club sends a message to the playing group that this sort of thing isn't going to be tolerated, so said players turning up a little 'groggy' will know not to do so in future.

Great decision by the club; baffling one by McVeigh.

 

[dougthelegend]

So if he has no history whatsoever why should he and the whole club be dealt so harshly.

It shouldn't matter if you have a 'history' of misbehaviour or not - fact is - he broke team rules, and he KNEW what the punishment would be - hell, he even oversaw it being enforced with Lovett earlier...that just makes his decision all the more stupid.

I reckon you keep it in house, you give him some sort of reprimand with strict clauses, apologise to the team, etc, etc.

So you are advocating that punishments should be handed out based on the importance of the next game? Total stupidity. Knights should be applauded for the fact that he has set a level of professionalism that is expected, and anyone, no matter how important they are to the club, is expected to tow the line, and if they don't they face the consequences.

There are so many players that go out the night before but make it to training not at %100. Do we punish those guys too? I've seen plenty of our players out of late. The way we're headed is we'll get ourselves into a serious hole if we aren't careful.

How will we get ourselves in a hole?? If anything, this suspension will probably see a reduction in the number of players going out the night before training - they'll realise that they will have to face the consequences and will make smarter decisions.

Since when did every tom, dick and harry become psychologists? To many leaders, too many leadership groups and not enough focus on winning.

Who's to say we aren't focused on winning? The fact is that we need to be professional in all aspects - if we have a professional culture, winning becomes second nature. As to the comment that leadership groups are the problem - seriously, you have to be kidding. Who best to judge a player than a group of his peers.

The path that you are suggesting is one of subversion, double standards and passing the buck - not at all what EFC should stand for.

 

[Kong]

i have got to say i am really confused with this situation, it has been reported that mcveigh did let the club know beforehand that he will miss the monday session, so what was the clubs response to that? did they then say no that is not acceptible and you would miss the weekends game if that did occur or did they just say ok then suspended him..

if he let the club know and they said it was ok then i dont see why a suspension is needed however if they said no and he did it anyway then that is a different matter.

So Lovett should've been 'let off' for all of his indiscretions because he gave the club notice he was going to play up?
If you're an AFL player, you make all compulsory training sessions and appearances. End of story.

the club has to be senstive on these issues though there are events that occur that a player (especially a senior player) should be let off for.

Are you having a laugh? The same course of action would apply to Lloyd; fortunately we have a captain who leads by example both on and off the field.

 

[dougthelegend]

Quote from The Age website:

'The Age has been told McVeigh was drinking heavily at a South Melbourne hotel until at least 3am. He notified the club later that morning he would not be attending the training session'

That statement makes no difference whatsoever. He KNEW there was a training session, he CHOSE to go out drinking instead - he SHOULD face the consequences, regardless of whether he told the club or not.

 

[Super Gusto]

i have got to say i am really confused with this situation, it has been reported that mcveigh did let the club know beforehand that he will miss the monday session, so what was the clubs response to that? did they then say no that is not acceptible and you would miss the weekends game if that did occur or did they just say ok then suspended him..

if he let the club know and they said it was ok then i dont see why a suspension is needed however if they said no and he did it anyway then that is a different matter.

the club has to be senstive on these issues though there are events that occur that a player (especially a senior player) should be let off for.

What's confusing??? So because he rang up and let the club know that he wouldn;t be attending a training session, he's let off the hook. He's lucky he did let the club know or else he may have been suspended for a lot longer.

What's he doing drinking until 3am the day before a training session and 5 days before a huge game anyway. You'd think that with all the games he has missed this year, he would be concentrating on getting his fitness levels back up.

McVeigh need to pull his head in and start working hard at getting back into the team. We have a bit of depth now for the first time in a while, so nobody should be guaranteed a game, no matter what their reputation is, and missing training sessions due to a night on the town is not on.

 

[bomberstomake8]

So Lovett should've been 'let off' for all of his indiscretions because he gave the club notice he was going to play up?
If you're an AFL player, you make all compulsory training sessions and appearances. End of story.

Are you having a laugh? The same course of action would apply to Lloyd; fortunately we have a captain who leads by example both on and off the field.

first of all i didnt actually know at the point i wrote that that mcveigh notified the club the morning before the training session, the report seemed to imply that he let the club know earlier.
so yes stupid decision by mcveigh and he should be punished.
i obviously didnt know the whole story but imo hypothetically say mcveigh had his best mates bachelor party or something sunday night and he let the club know a few days before that he wont be able to attend the session then i would consider that fine. that was what i was getting at.

if it was just because he felt like going out for a drink the night before a training session and didnt let the club know until the morning of that training session then that isnt acceptible

 

[Boucks09]

I would suspend him for the next few matches and not just the game against the Pies. Come on down Myers.

That was exactly the same thing that I thought the minute I heard the news.

David Myers your time has arrived.

 

[Boucks09]

first of all i didnt actually know at the point i wrote that that mcveigh notified the club the morning before the training session, the report seemed to imply that he let the club know earlier.
so yes stupid decision by mcveigh and he should be punished.
i obviously didnt know the whole story but imo hypothetically say mcveigh had his best mates bachelor party or something sunday night and he let the club know a few days before that he wont be able to attend the session then i would consider that fine. that was what i was getting at.

if it was just because he felt like going out for a drink the night before a training session and didnt let the club know until the morning of that training session then that isnt acceptible

Completely disagree here. There is no room for compromise on these issues. Look at the likes of Joel Selwood. He postponed his 21st celebrations until the end of the season rather than having a drink and potentially missing a session. The fact is that you can't miss a session now for socialising; it is just a complete non negotiable..

The most amazing thing is that it comes an entire week after he had let the side down and KNEW that he would be coming in to replace Watson this week. If it had been say the day after being suspended you could put it down to sooking about the suspension, but to do it on the Sunday is just astounding.

No chance he will be Captain now. Can you imagine Lloyd, Hird or O'Donnell missing a game because of something so stupid?

 

[Ricky]

Mark I am absolutely fuming at you atm!!

After your speech against the saints last year, I thought you were a shoe-in for the captaincy.

2 weeks in a row you've let the club down.
You are the last person I would expect to be out and about and miss a training session.

I thought you'd be one of the first at training every week because you love the club so passionately and want to be out there playing..

Mark I still have plenty of respect for you as a player but 2 weeks in a row you have let the club down and the supporters down!...

I know you probably won't but I hope you read some of these and see the disappointment in all of voices. We all think you're borderline elite in the competition.

But Mark whacking some bloke last week and not making a monday training session, what is going to achieve? NOTHING!!! I'll keep saying it...All you are doing is letting your teammates, the coaching staff, the whole club, and most importantly, us, the supporters down!!

You'd wanna make sure you come back hungrier than ever when we play the swans! I'd hate to see you drift in form and then question marks be over your head whether we play you or not!!

Please Mark, pull ya finger out and show us what you can do!!

 

[stay true]

So if he has no history whatsoever why should he and the whole club be dealt so harshly.

I reckon you keep it in house, you give him some sort of reprimand with strict clauses, apologise to the team, etc, etc.

There are so many players that go out the night before but make it to training not at %100. Do we punish those guys too? I've seen plenty of our players out of late. The way we're headed is we'll get ourselves into a serious hole if we aren't careful.

Since when did every tom, dick and harry become psychologists? To many leaders, too many leadership groups and not enough focus on winning.

Granted it could have been kept in house, but suspension was still necessary for consistency. There can't be rules for some and rules for others.

Regarding players attending training not at 100%, that's a differently kettle of fish... Macca missed the session.

 

[red+black]

Like most brain-dead AFL footballers, time and time again they prove that they aren't the smartest people going around.

I think this is almost the last straw with regards to McVeigh becoming our next captain.

I wanted him to captain us last year, but now I don't care if he is overlooked.

I don't think his behaviour is becoming of a potential captain of an up and coming young side.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Granted it could have been kept in house, but suspension was still necessary for consistency. There can't be rules for some and rules for others.

Regarding players attending training not at 100%, that's a differently kettle of fish... Macca missed the session.

If this happened a week before the grand final and one or two players had a big night after a PF win and missed the next mornings recovery..

What do you do then?

 

[Valve Bounce]

i obviously didnt know the whole story but imo hypothetically say mcveigh had his best mates bachelor party or something sunday night and he let the club know a few days before that he wont be able to attend the session then i would consider that fine. that was what i was getting at.

Are you really serious? This is Essendon's tough game, possibly the chance to make or lose playing in the finals. You say it's OK for McVeigh to go to a piss up if it was his best mate's bachelor party?

Let me tell you this: Nothing, nothing is more important to any player than the team, with the exception of a death in the family.

I have read the posts by WHOMB above and I can only say that I totally agree with his attitude, and all his arguments.

I really don't want to go into detail about the stupid arguments thrown up by Kelvin Sheedy - perhaps he should change his name to something like IlikeTuddy or whatever.

If a senior player of McVeigh's position in the team cannot respect his team and his team mates, then he deserves the suspension. End of story!!