Scandal Marlion Pickett - In Custody for multiple offences - Later bailed.

[Wosh]

Pickett has been charged by WA Police with four counts of aggravated burglary, with three counts of stealing and three counts of criminal damage among his other charges.
The alleged offences took place between December 2022 and January 2023.
Pickett has a “strong intent” to defend himself, his manager Anthony Van Der Wielen told 7NEWS in a statement.

Racist comments will immediately cop a long break from Bigfooty, discuss the issue not the skin colour or race.
Thank you.

P.S This thread has nothing to do with the Clarkson/Racism review discussion.
This thread is not the place to discuss the prison system and prisoner rehabilitation, you can take that to the SRP board.
This is the scandals and rumours board only, please stay on topic in here.

 

[Chief]

Well yeah, that's just it, people constantly plead for leniency thinking those who turned to crime had no other choice. Heck in my own town I can think of a literal murderer and someone currently on trial for armed robbery, both from two parent households and wanting for nothing during childhood.

"the myth that people steal because they're forced into it."

My point was that some people are forced into it.

"the myth that ALL people steal because they're forced into it." ?

Is that what you meant? I didn't think that was generally accepted.

Some people turn to crime because it's easy, and who cares about the victims of their crimes and their families. That's all it is. An easy payday, borne of pure selfishness.

Interesting study from years ago about petty crime in children. It's pretty normal. Most grow out of the odd bit of shoplifting.

Others take longer to stop. Others never do.

Imagine being paid so much as an AFL footballer, more than 95%+ of the population, and still turning to aggravated burglary. Imagine being that greedy. Imagine caring that little about your fellow human beings.

Yes that would be indicative of greed and lack of empathy. Could also be addiction, mental health issues and so on.

I don't see hard lines in most of these hypotheticals.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Edit:

Richmond Tigers star arrested in Perth on robbery charges

Richmond Tigers premiership player Marlion Pickett has been charged after allegedly being involved in a spate of burglaries in Perth committed during last year’s off season.

thewest.com.au

Reportedly multiple burglaries.

Lock him up and people like him and throw away the key.
Softly softly doesn't work with these type of people

 

[tiger_tough]

I just can’t fathom why supporters of any club a feel they have to go to war to defend a player where the likelihood is said player is a total grub.

I mean, it’s not like he’s a member of your family - so why carry on like he is?

Lol has anyone done that? As far as I saw its a few posters pointing out that at this stage it's just a charge, not a conviction. Pretty reasonable I would have thought?

 

[JackOutback]

Lock him up and people like him and throw away the key.
Softly softly doesn't work with these type of people

The US is the most incarcerated nation in the world, even on a per capita basis it's only behind a couple of countries like El Salvador and Rwanda, how's that working out for them?

 

[Rod Stroker]

Lock him up and people like him and throw away the key.
Softly softly doesn't work with these type of people

which "type of people" is that?

 

[Port 2004]

I would defend anyone who is being found guilty before they have even been to trial.

It's something in human nature that I just cannot stand.

Me too. ****ing media and others who stand on high moral,ground. Shits me too tears.

 

[Micksy]

which "type of people" is that?

Really?

 

[The Mares Leg]

Lol has anyone done that? As far as I saw its a few posters pointing out that at this stage it's just a charge, not a conviction. Pretty reasonable I would have thought?

Nice try - only got to page 5 and you guys are casting accusations around.

A simple rational explanation is taken as some character assasination - typical Richmond forum member.

I could wade though the whole thread…but I have better things to do…like cut my toenails.

 

[The Mares Leg]

I would defend anyone who is being found guilty before they have even been to trial.

It's something in human nature that I just cannot stand.

The issue is HOW this principle is defended….too many deny there’s any reason to question a person’s behaviour.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Hopefully this flog's actions can lay to rest the myth that people steal because they're forced into it.

WTF does that even mean??

 

[Anzacday]

He pleaded not guilty? How bout we wait to see if he's convicted before we start carrying on

In the meantime, there is a thing called innocent until proven guilty.

Come on guys you've both been around long enough to know better than that.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Really?

I wasn't the one who made the comment. Do you have the answer to the question?

 

[1970crow]

Well yeah, that's just it, people constantly plead for leniency thinking those who turned to crime had no other choice. Heck in my own town I can think of a literal murderer and someone currently on trial for armed robbery, both from two parent households and wanting for nothing during childhood.

Some people turn to crime because it's easy, and who cares about the victims of their crimes and their families. That's all it is. An easy payday, borne of pure selfishness.

Imagine being paid so much as an AFL footballer, more than 95%+ of the population, and still turning to aggravated burglary. Imagine being that greedy. Imagine caring that little about your fellow human beings.

No doubt some do, but there's a lot of commonality with people in prison. Low intelligence, left school early, substance abuse, parental substance abuse. A large proportion of inmates meet at least a couple of those factors.

 

[craffles]

He’s a grub. People rarely get accidentally accused and charged with crimes like this, particularly when they have a prior record.

Some of the posts in here will look terrible when he’s found guilty.

 

[Sir_Loin]

He’s a grub. People rarely get accidentally accused and charged with crimes like this, particularly when they have a prior record.

Some of the posts in here will look terrible when he’s found guilty.

Interesting that you have such insight to adjudicate someone as guilty before a trial

Let’s just move away from hundreds of years of common law and convict people based on your feelings

 

[JackOutback]

Interesting that you have such insight to adjudicate someone as guilty before a trial

Let’s just move away from hundreds of years of common law and convict people based on your feelings

Innocent before proven guilty is a legal principle, it doesn't stop anyone from having opinions. And those opinions don't eliminate the principle. Remember, OJ Simpson was never found guilty of killing his wife, it's not beholden upon me to presume his innocence.

 

[Underarm]

Innocent before proven guilty is a legal principle, it doesn't stop anyone from having opinions. And those opinions don't eliminate the principle. Remember, OJ Simpson was never found guilty of killing his wife, it's not beholden upon me to presume his innocence.

Sure, but it says something about craffles That he had immediately believed the allegations before trial.

 

[Toump Ass]

People rabbit on about "privilege" a lot.

Social demographics, colour of your skin.

Genetics can be a good hand, too. Marlion was very lucky, 6"0, nice frame to build a professional sportsman on.
Went in "big house" and got a second chance, not many people get that.

Doing burgs for a bit of a thrill over your summer holidays on an AFL wage, it's quite remarkable isn't it.

 

[T2B_]

I wasn't the one who made the comment. Do you have the answer to the question?

I'd wager that out of the two posts only yours actually was thinking of race. I read it as the poster in question saying "types of people" meaning criminals

 

[Underarm]

I'd wager that out of the two posts only yours actually was thinking of race. I read it as the poster in question saying "types of people" meaning criminals

So why not say criminal?

 

[T2B_]

So why not say criminal?

Dunno, I'm not the one who said it, but race never even entered my mind while reading it.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Innocent before proven guilty is a legal principle, it doesn't stop anyone from having opinions. And those opinions don't eliminate the principle. Remember, OJ Simpson was never found guilty of killing his wife, it's not beholden upon me to presume his innocence.

But I’m sure that was after the trial.

 

[JackOutback]

But I’m sure that was after the trial.

You don't think people went into the OJ case with an opinion of guilt? I was there, we all knew he did it. The case was supposed to be a fait accompli but they ballsed it up.

 

[Underarm]

Dunno, I'm not the one who said it, but race never even entered my mind while reading it.

Rod Stoker never mentioned race either. Why did you assume that's what he meant?

 

[T2B_]

Rod Stoker never mentioned race either. Why did you assume that's what he meant?

Not a totally unreasonable point, but the way it was framed is the way people usually bring up race in this context. Like you see on TV shows a lot to make a point, like "what do you mean YOU people?" Kind of thing. Anyway we are meant to steer clear of any such discussion in this thread so will leave it alone now.

What I actually find most intriguing ITT is why Richmond supporters in particular are going in so hard to bat for this guy (Marlion). I just don't get it, if a Blues player had done some bad things and potentially others off field, I certainly wouldn't be defending sorely because he or she wore the club colours.