Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 3) - The Biggest Loser

[Kane McGoodwin]

Do you reckon he will just slink away again?

Bit like when he was bagging Wilkies disposal and I showed he was rated as elite and others pointed out he made AA and won the B&F

Can we work at what stage during this season AFC put WW on their payroll.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Yous are both saying the same thing. No team does wholesale changes to their gameplan every 6 weeks, no team doesn't do minor changes to their gameplan at least a few times a season.

Kicking long, kicking short, corridor versus playing up the line, are all gameplan changes .....call them tactics if you wish, but it's a variance to the gameplan

Trusting anything Josh Jenkins says is ludicrous .....as if he's divulging IP to supporters ....King has no such conflicts of interest .....he's paid to enlighten his SEN audience, and there was zero pushback from Cornes

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Kicking long, kicking short, corridor versus playing up the line, are all gameplan changes .....call them tactics if you wish, but it's a variance to the gameplan

Trusting anything Josh Jenkins says is ludicrous .....as if he's divulging IP to supporters ....King has no such conflicts of interest .....he's paid to enlighten his SEN audience, and there was zero pushback from Cornes

Are you paid by SEN?

Yes or no?

It's very rare for a club to completely change their game plan during a year... let alone every 6 weeks.

Stop being ridiculous!

Just ****ing engage your brain for once...

 

[cleanhands]

Kicking long, kicking short, corridor versus playing up the line, are all gameplan changes .....call them tactics if you wish, but it's a variance to the gameplan

Trusting anything Josh Jenkins says is ludicrous .....as if he's divulging IP to supporters ....King has no such conflicts of interest .....he's paid to enlighten his SEN audience, and there was zero pushback from Cornes

 

[Cromulant]

How much do you think a Harvard course, flights, accomodation, transport, food etc costs?

It's a good question

Flights at the moment are stuff all, and AFL staff get a few free flights with Virgin every year anyway.

Judging by my experience of US travel it would barely make a dent in an AFL club budget

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Surely with no finals for years we've been saving plenty of money

No hotels, no travel. No Gatorade needed for those 4 weeks, no finger tape, no half time oranges

No performance bonuses for any staff

 

[arrowman]

call them tactics if you wish, but it's a variance to the gameplan

Exactly. Gameplan = strategy, tactics may change from week to week and even within a game. Changing tactics is not changing the gameplan.

 

[Amacca 23]

Exactly. Gameplan = strategy, tactics may change from week to week and even within a game. Changing tactics is not changing the gameplan.

Actually you change the game plan to suit the opposition what works against one team doesnt mean it works against another .So you need to have variations to the game plan and style of play ,if not teams work you out pretty quickly in this league

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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Nicks often has to throw his entire game plan out the window at half time when we've been rubbish and are down by miles

Then we start again midweek with the original one

 

[cm_perfect]

Now known as Flip Flop.

 

[beartoo]

Yous are both saying the same thing. No team does wholesale changes to their gameplan every 6 weeks, no team doesn't do minor changes to their gameplan at least a few times a season.

No. Wayne's original premise was that all teams change their gameplans every 6 weeks because other teams work them out. That is rubbish. When challenged he then came up with 4 or 5 other reasons teams change their gameplans, presumably every 6 weeks. No mention the 2nd time about other teams working them out.

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[George Kramer]

Nicks often has to throw his entire game plan out the window at half time when we've been rubbish and are down by miles

Then we start again midweek with the original one

Yep, classic case was against Gold Coast rd 1. We stopped looked for a pass, did not take the game on. Until the last qtr when we were behind and we almost won the game.

Only shit for brains Nicks and some unbelievably silly posters could dispute this.

 

[cleanhands]

 

[kirky]

He isn't Albo FFS

Well he isn’t the PM so he shouldn’t.

 

[AC07]

Oh come on Jenny, the crap game plan was the MAIN reason our season was cooked in the 1st month.

Suggesting otherwise is sticking your head in the sand!

Feel free to list all out injuries in the 1st month & compare to other clubs who also had injuries.

It's this reinventing the truth that doesn't help us fix issues going forward.

Why do you think the club brought in Davis?

The game plan was not what was planned due to injuries. This along with playing the first game away in what I would call a monsoon against a team that already knocked up a win in round zero! The following rounds brought constant changes in the first 4 rounds and set us up to fail. Could’ve Nick’s prevented this, no. Did he come up with the right alternative game plan, no. Some more support around him may have helped.

The preseason hype was all around the beast Thilthorpe. I think the game plan was centred around him, Walker, Fogarty and Rankine. Thilthorpe was done. Walker had old man back spasms. By Gather round we were making 5 changes, some with players we have now delisted.

Could Nicks have done better, yes. Was it all on him no! I reserve judgement until Gather Round 25. I suspect we’ll all be pleasantly surprised.

 

[spenze]

Well he isn’t the PM so he shouldn’t.

Labor PM should fly economy. Actually, they all should.

Set an example and not have your snout in trough.

The voters outside looked from liberal to labor, and from labor to liberal, and from liberal to labor again; but already it was impossible to say which was which...

 

[AC07]

You are talking about tweaks of your game plan, it’s called coaching, not fundamental change in gameplan over a preseason and during a season.

Why don’t you go back and read some of your old posts, Kane and I have kindly bumped them for you.

Last time I checked tweaking means change. In this case, not completely. You might want to check the dictionary!

 

[George Kramer]

Last time I checked tweaking means change. In this case, not completely. You might want to check the dictionary!

Did you miss “fundamental change”? That’s not a tweak

 

[AC07]

Did you miss “fundamental change”? That’s not a tweak

No one said fundamental change. The suggestion was that the game plan is changed every 6 weeks. Change/tweak whatever. No one said the game plan fundamentally changed every 6 weeks.

I think you’ve added that to warp the narrative to suit your argument.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Just reading the discussion on the game plan.

My thoughts. As stated before.

Nicks tried to implement as he saw it, the perfect game. Which was basically a high team defense game plan that relied on choking up the defensive 50 and breaking with the counter attack if possible or maintain possession with precise short passing. The whole idea was to not only limit scoring but to starve the opposition of all scoring. Then at points during the game, he'd flick a switch and the the game plan would switch to all out attack.

We did it too often in the first 6 weeks of the year for this to have been merely a fluke. It was instructed. It fell apart because Essendon exposed the loop hole by placing absolute frontal pressure on our defense. Nicks fluked a win aganst the grain against Carlton. You only had to see the scoring differential between us and the opposition. We only won like 4 quarters in like 5 games. I cant remember exactly as i did these stats like 5 months ago. But by all reports its widely noted we were heavy on defensive focus in the pre season.

He then changed it up after this didnt work and released the team to play a more attacking game plan but by then injuries hit and we fell off the pace pretty quickly. Plus we had an over reliance on just a few players to get the job done.

Nicks should have been sacked for this, it was all Nicks and he screwed up our season so much due to that piss poor start that even if injuries hadnt occurred, its likely we couldnt have won enough games to overcome the poor start and make finals.

 

[George Kramer]

No one said fundamental change. The suggestion was that the game plan is changed every 6 weeks. Change/tweak whatever. No one said the game plan fundamentally changed every 6 weeks.

I think you’ve added that to warp the narrative to suit your argument.

Well I don’t know what happened to my other reply. I would have hoped a Mod didn’t delete it without explanation. Anyway I’m not going to type it all again but give you the summary.

The initial discussion was about Nicks changing our gameplan over preseason, from attack to defensive. A fundamental change.

Wayne criticised the gameplan and coaching at the start of the season.

Now he’s trying to ignore that and say coaches change the gameplan every 6 weeks, what’s he’s describing are tweaks in game plans for match ups etc and have nothing to do with what Nicks did last preseason and the beginning of the season. He also can’t hide from his own posts which we’ve bumped some of today.

 

[Amacca 23]

Well I don’t know what happened to my other reply. I would have hoped a Mod didn’t delete it without explanation. Anyway I’m not going to type it all again but give you the summary.

The initial discussion was about Nicks changing our gameplan over preseason, from attack to defensive. A fundamental change.

Wayne criticised the gameplan and coaching at the start of the season.

Now he’s trying to ignore that and say coaches change the gameplan every 6 weeks, what’s he’s describing are tweaks in game plans for match ups etc and have nothing to do with what Nicks did last preseason and the beginning of the season. He also can’t hide from his own posts which we’ve bumped some of today.

So tweaks to the game plan depending on opposition isnt a change ok got it

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[Cromulant]

So tweaks to the game plan depending on opposition isnt a change ok got it

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We made wholesale changes to the gameplan, not tweaks

To say otherwise is a lie.

 

[Amacca 23]

We made wholesale changes to the gameplan, not tweaks

To say otherwise is a lie.

Any tweak is a change to the game plan tell me 1 team that doesnt make any change besides port

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[George Kramer]

So tweaks to the game plan depending on opposition isnt a change ok got it

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Have comprehension issues?

Clearly I explained what we did and Wayne’s changing position on our gameplan and what the point was.

But keep cheerleading