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Rumour McLean Out For The Year
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Whose spot would Barlow take in our seven and four midfield and half forwardline?
We're seven and four.
Fremantle need Barlow.
We still don't.
Like Yarran, Kerr will be playing AFL after a full pre-season and hurting sides with a dozen touches.
And then we'll add Buckley.
Depends which of the two you are. Michael Hickenbottom was the greatest performer in the history of pro wrestling! As great a compliment as could be given!
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I'm not a doctor, but I see why you think that leg injuries from years ago, or an old ankle injury is the cause for copping a hip injury in a game.
Nothing to suggest that this was anything but a simple injury copped during a game, that could have happened to anyone.
The club wouldn't spend pick 11 unless they were confident in his body. This doesn't make him suddenly immune to all injuries though.
Again, I don't know why you have this mindset.
A lot of players don't appear as genuine targets until trade week itself. Most trades get maybe a weeks worth of consideration, or even a day or so like Fev's trade.
Considering Brock was the only player we actively went after, it is pretty clear that our main focus during the time leading up to trade week was an inside mid, and McLean was obviously at the forefront of this focus.
So even if the club spent no time on this until our season was over, we spent weeks focusing on it, compared to most trades of less than a week.
Brock is the player that we needed in our finals game last year. He could likely be the difference between us winning that match next time, regardless of his personal stats.
I'm confident he'll prove his worth in the next few years - though I'm less confident that every supporter will be able to recognise it.
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He was carrying a Leg injury for a while, then an bung ankle and now an (allegedly) crook hip.
It wouldn't be far fetched or fanciful to suggest there could be some causal link between the three injuries.
Again, I'm not in the 'know', and this is all speculation. Heck I don't even know if he is injured or was dropped for form.
Id like to know if he was 'carrying' the injury (if he is injured) from last year or not.
From reports at the time it was more like Brock coming after the Blues, not the other way around.
Agree. Love what he brings to the table.
He's just not really bringing it at the moment. Whether that's due to injury, form, weight, adjusting to a new side or whatever.
Dont get me wrong, I'm confident he will as well.
Not the ideal start though.
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True, but that's my point as well I guess, there is nothing to suggest any previous injury was the cause, and this seems far from likely imo.
Again, we're both just speculating I guess, but I don't think the club would just randomly offer our first pick for anyone that came knocking on our door.
Even so, they would have spent weeks on it, rather than a few days as usually happens in trade week.
As far as trades go, you'd have to be confident that any trade agreed upon before trade week even starts has not been a rash decision from any party.
I realise you're not trying to bag him.
As I read someone else say once, Brock only has to play 3 good games for it to be a big win for us.
Rather than compare him to the various kids we could have taken, I'm just glad the club are willing to do what is required to change us from a pretender, to a contender. Addressing a deficiency, and getting a promising inside mid is doing just that.
People like to analyse trades after they are done, as though this hindsight information was available at the time to those making the trade. Comments should really only be made at the time of the trade, and have it end there.
McLean looked okay to me in preseason training pushing Walker & Judd in the time trials, and was also pretty good in the first 2 games this year.
Unlucky to get injured in the Essendon game. If he is still injured I can't see why the club would be playing him in the 2's?? The Club probably wants him to build up some confidence/form before bringing him back in the seniors.
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We've seen the debilitating nature of these injuries first-hand in the renewed form of Houlihan post operation.
The club will assess whether he is structurally critical to the sides success in spite of playing with restriction. His is also a viable option in case Hadley gets injured, and there are numerous examples where players are kept out of the operating theatre until season's end for 'insurance purposes'.
We all should accept this for the time being - and give the man some credit.
hahaha!!
I wish I had the football expertise you have SinCity.
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If say a Trent Sporn was getting tackled with the ball, it would be cause he is slow and shit. But when the best inside mid in the afl, Brock McLean, gets tackled, it's because he has the gift of identifying that all his teamates around him are under pressure. This Brock McLean guy sure is good.
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The middle men
Mundy, Crowley and Barlow have been in the middle 51 times and won 54.9% of first possessions.
Yet look at the percentage of clearances won by Carlton, Geelong, St Kilda, Essendon and Collingwood.
And the percentages of inside fifties.
Even if you take into account the way footy is played today, the Fremantle trio aren't great at getting the ball inside fifty and winning the clearances.
I guess Barlow isn't a great clearance player who can deliver it inside fifty to advantage.
Mclean, Judd and Murphy would dominate first possession if Sandilands was our ruckman...
The middle men
The middle men
Mundy, Crowley and Barlow have been in the middle 51 times and won 54.9% of first possessions.
Yet look at the percentage of clearances won by Carlton, Geelong, St Kilda, Essendon and Collingwood.
And the percentages of inside fifties.
Even if you take into account the way footy is played today, the Fremantle trio aren't great at getting the ball inside fifty and winning the clearances.
I guess Barlow isn't a great clearance player who can deliver it inside fifty to advantage.
Mclean, Judd and Murphy would dominate first possession if Sandilands was our ruckman...
The middle men
The middle men
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OK, find me enough examples when he's been caught with the ball that there was a clearly better option to prove your point?
Problem with your argument is that Sporn wasn't a tough inside mid.....usually played wider than the third row of the stands, and you would hope had some leg speed.
lol im not gonna wast my time doing that. the fact that you bumped a brock mclean thread after the wce game to boast about how good mclean was, when in reality it was yet another poor performance which resulted in his omission, shows how clueless you actually are.
*whoosh*
i wasnt making any argument about Sporn the player. I just used a dud player from our past to illustrate the double standards. nice try though
lol im not gonna wast my time doing that. the fact that you bumped a brock mclean thread after the wce game to boast about how good mclean was, when in reality it was yet another poor performance which resulted in his omission, shows how clueless you actually are.
*whoosh*
i wasnt making any argument about Sporn the player. I just used a dud player from our past to illustrate the double standards. nice try though
lol, 'nice try' ahh the irony....., for a double standard to apply, your argument or analogy has to be valid.....WHOOOOOSH
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In other words you can't prove your point. By the way McLean was named in the best players for that game.
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it is valid.
if dud player x got caught holding the ball several times a game, it would be because he is slow and shit, but when Brock Mclean is caught holding the ball its got nothing to do with his indecision, or his slow hands, or his fumbling, but according to SinCity he just didnt want to cough the ball up to a team mate under more pressure. hence the double standards.
the post was about highlighting the double standars, not a debate about what position Trent Sporn played.
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Is it possible to have an inside mid that isn't so F***ing slow!!!
Hadley and Bruce had a foot race on the wing saturday that seemed to go on forever...just because they were soo slow.
I don't see why there has to be a correlation between winning a hard ball and being slow.
Hadley is no better than mclean when it comes to pace....I fear the game is/has gone past them. The roatations have doubled over the last 5 years and meaning a faster game, these 2 have been left behind (pardon the pun)
Hadley and Bruce had a foot race on the wing saturday that seemed to go on forever...just because they were soo slow.
I don't see why there has to be a correlation between winning a hard ball and being slow.
Hadley is no better than mclean when it comes to pace....I fear the game is/has gone past them. The roatations have doubled over the last 5 years and meaning a faster game, these 2 have been left behind (pardon the pun)
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Too many alleged Carlton supporters are spuds and morons.
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When does your joke book come out?
Hadley is just as slow as Mclean, I don't think either are fast enough anymore, both have done nothing for years and multiple injuries have taken their toll.
The game is leaving these sort or players behind.
IMO Greg Williams would not have been the star he was if he played in this era.
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Ziebell and Robinson run twenty metres in approx 3.11 seconds.
They should have been delisted so either club could draft Barlow.
Kreuzer is slower than Vickery.
Sometimes it's better to not comment so you don't appear so stupid.
They should have been delisted so either club could draft Barlow.
Kreuzer is slower than Vickery.
Sometimes it's better to not comment so you don't appear so stupid.
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