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Slobbo and Schnoz were discuss the mcadam/pickett incidents and saying how confused everyone was after the RYAN bump after round 1 last year.

You mean the rioli bump.on that suns player.

BT must be moonlighting as one of their research staff
 
Slobbo and Schnoz were discuss the mcadam/pickett incidents and saying how confused everyone was after the RYAN bump after round 1 last year.

You mean the rioli bump.on that suns player.

Apart from getting the player involved wrong it was also an entirely different situation to either the Pickett or Macadam incidents as Rioli was fractionally late to a marking contest

****ing stupid comparison
 
If he can get another 4cms we might have already drafted that gun KPP we needed. Now we just need a gun mid again....

He did mention playing as a third tall defender this week 🤔 Reckon he could actually do some damage as that lock down Shepp type with the ability to explode out of the back line when we win the ball. But prefer to see him exhaust all avenues in the midfield first to see if he can make it there.
 

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Paywalled article on today's Worst, what's the TLDR?

Peter Sumich: Inside the meeting where Trevor Nisbett wanted to sack me and John Worsfold​

I can’t go anywhere without Eagles fans venting their anger and disgust at how far West Coast have tumbled in such a short time.
Enough is enough.
[paywall]
 
There’s no way we can know for sure, but I reckon if we’d kept that pick we would’ve taken Robertson, not Georgiades.
Yep- there is no way to know. On exposed form, I'm not seeing any obvious guns that we missed out on. Robertson is not exactly setting the world on fire and Georgiades doesn't look too different to Waterman to me. He's slightly too short and has a lot of injury issues.
 
Yep- there is no way to know. On exposed form, I'm not seeing any obvious guns that we missed out on. Robertson is not exactly setting the world on fire and Georgiades doesn't look too different to Waterman to me. He's slightly too short and has a lot of injury issues.
The both alloking like another case of the grass is always greener
 
Yep- there is no way to know. On exposed form, I'm not seeing any obvious guns that we missed out on. Robertson is not exactly setting the world on fire and Georgiades doesn't look too different to Waterman to me. He's slightly too short and has a lot of injury issues.
The only real gun we missed out on in that draft was East Freo boy Chad Warner. Who knows if we would've taken him but would've looked good in Eagles colours
 
The only real gun we missed out on in that draft was East Freo boy Chad Warner. Who knows if we would've taken him but would've looked good in Eagles colours

Our second round pick that year ended up becoming pick 38, which Essendon used on Nick Bryan.

Warner went at 39 :(
 
Paywalled article on today's Worst, what's the TLDR?

Peter Sumich: Inside the meeting where Trevor Nisbett wanted to sack me and John Worsfold​

I can’t go anywhere without Eagles fans venting their anger and disgust at how far West Coast have tumbled in such a short time.
Enough is enough.
[paywall]

I can’t go anywhere without Eagles fans venting their anger and disgust at how far West Coast have tumbled in such a short time.

Enough is enough.

Let’s not take a lame approach in assessing what is going wrong at the Eagles.

There’s been enough of the comfort zone and virtually unquestioned existence that the West Coast coach, assistant coaches and administration have enjoyed for at least two years now.

Too many old Eagles players are too slow and playing self-survival footy. The game has become so brutally quick moving that more soft tissue injuries are likely as West Coast lumber through what looms as another horrific season.

The club’s members, fans and corporate faithful deserve a lot better.

Adam Simpson declared the Eagles were “fitter” than they have been for at least two years. All that indicates is that they’ve caught up to where they should have been 24 months ago, while the rest of an unforgiving AFL competition is well advanced.

Unless Simpson and his football support staff can dramatically turn things around in the space of a week and knock over Greater Western Sydney at home on Sunday afternoon, a disaster is brewing.

West Coast have now lost 28 of their past 32 games, since June 27, 2021, when they were sitting seventh on the ladder during the round 14 bye.

That’s a win ratio of 12.5 per cent since then.

Simpson’s Eagles confront a hell of a difficult schedule through April and May, putting a proud club on a path to another totally unacceptable bottom-of-the-table finish.

They have Fremantle in round three, then Melbourne here, Geelong and Port Adelaide in successive outings at Adelaide Oval, followed by Carlton and Richmond.

They’re all serious finals contenders for 2023. It’s a depressing outlook trying to find a win somewhere there. That has Simpson, right, pleading for patience from members and fans, while at the same time making promises of some wins on their home turf.

The Eagles have won just two of their past 17 home games — against St Kilda who sat in 12th in June 2021 and then 16th-placed Essendon in late June last year.

Back in 2010, I was an assistant coach when the Eagles had finished last for the first time in 24 years. We had missed finals for three consecutive seasons — another unacceptable first.

Chief executive Trevor Nisbett brought John Worsfold, who was coach at the time, and myself into his office.

Nisbett was brutal in his message that Worsfold and I should be sacked, despite each of us having a year to run on our contracts.

If it had not been for our service as decorated players and coaches at West Coast, we would have been sitting in exit meetings, Nisbett told us.

We had won just 16 games of a possible 66 at a terrible 24.2 per cent.

The year after, we finished fourth and made it to a preliminary final — the biggest rise for a wooden spoon team in AFL history.

There’s clearly a greater tolerance from Nisbett towards Simpson.

The current board has also endorsed Simpson with an absence of any apparent development strategies over the past two to three seasons.

The lack of development for younger players on their list has drastically exposed a lack of talent to cover the decline of ageing stars who, granted, took West Coast to the 2018 premiership.

Simpson is securely contracted through until the end of 2025.

All too often there’s a distinct lack of intensity. There’s a languid nature about the Eagles.

Last Saturday, to open the new season, West Coast lacked effort from the first bounce.

Some of the powerbrokers should be very angry about what is going on and, unfortunately, there are no signs on the horizon of any great improvement.

The Eagles turned in an inept first-half performance to lay the foundation for a season-opening loss to North Melbourne.

The coach had laid claim to being “underdogs” leading into the clash of last year’s two bottom sides and then declared post-match that they’d “gone there to win.”

West Coast lacked aggression, fight and hunger right through the first half.

The players turned up to the game with a soft attitude and a lack of urgency and effort was evident from the outset.

There’s no excuse for such a lame start to a season when the coach has made public his intentions for improvement, especially as he gets his better players back into the side.

Yet still, they lost a game they should have won.

West Coast took a vastly more experienced unit into that game, despite Simpson claiming his side was “young” and learning.

North, who had won just nine games in the past three seasons, had more urgency for the contest and gave their faithful something to look forward to with their effort.

West Coast had 10 players from the 2018 premiership team, as well as recruits Tim Kelly and Jayden Hunt, plus veteran Andrew Gaff.

Continuing to play some of these older players is wasting valuable development time for younger and emerging Eagles, such as Jake Waterman who was left out because he was apparently underdone.

But then the match committee picks Jack Darling, with no pre-season games and limited training over the past month. And Waterman misses out on an extra game to improve his AFL career.

West Coast had an average age of 25.7 years and experience of 111.5 games for each player on Sunday. North averaged 23.8 years and 80.2 games among their 23.

Darling, at 30 with 257 games behind him, had just five disposals at half-time, with fellow premiership forward Liam Ryan having just four touches as the Kangaroos dominated a more experienced West Coast outfit.

There was an alarming contested possession differential, with North having 27 more to half-time, when they led clearances 24-11, exposing a lack of effort to contest from the Eagles.

It will be argued that West Coast forwards were starved of scoring chances.

But surely capitalising on limited chances necessitates Darling, on $1 million this season, not muffing set shots.

Instead he kicked three behinds and another out on the full in three terms.

West Coast and Simpson need to be accountable for poor development when it comes to the imminent loss of ruckman Nic Naitanui. This was never more evident than during heir-apparent Bailey Williams’ shabby performance.It was Williams’ chance to lead the ruck after the Roos lost Tristan Xerri to injury — against a third-tier ruckman in 20-year-old Charlie Comben, who was playing just his third game.

Williams was lamentable.

But the 22-year-old probably should have played more than his 27 games in the past two seasons in preparation for Naitanui’s ongoing injury absences and approaching retirement.

There’s so much uncertainty at West Coast that rests on the program run by Simpson, in what he has described at different times as “transition” and now a “new era” with little to no evidence of strategy to prepare for these claims.

Any new era should have been launched two to three years ago and be bearing fruit.
 
Final line in that article

“Any new era should have been launched two to three years ago and be bearing fruit.”

Three years ago was the start of the 2020 season. We had just added Tim Kelly in the 2019 draft period to a side that had won a premiership a year earlier

And Sumich is saying we should have been launching a new era back then??

We went to the draft in 2021 and brought Chesser, Hough and Bazzo to the club that’s went the list transition started for anyone paying attention
 
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