News Melbourne's Next Coach - Roos for 2-3 years with a succession plan

[d33my]

Pretty excited to see Roosy's comments. As mentioned above, plenty more water will go under the bridge before we get a new coach (ie let the media circus begin), but at least we haven't been outright rejected by our prime candidate.

Let the courtship begin.

 

[NT.Thunder]

FWIW I think Roo's is obviously the best choice the club could make in terms of an overall package.
He knows how to build a club from the ground up, has the background, has the persona that a footy club needs to attract quality players, quality supporters and sponsors. Whilst on field results are mandatory in the club moving forward, i think it'll be his ability to improve the off field antics equally which will see the club rapidly improve.
Melbourne has a lot of history, no one doubts this, but it'll take someone like Roos to actually dig it up for all involved in the club to believe in this history and play for this history.
IMO 1 million a year if pittance for what he brings to the club in terms of a football department and his balance of taking quality juniors through the draft or mature ages through state competition or through recycled players.
Good luck and I hope you get him.

 

[wowlace]

"Look, I will take a call," Roos said.

"I am happy to talk if they want me to talk now that Neeld has gone.

"I don't have a problem with that. My mindset is it would want to be a significant change ... to where I am at the moment."

It would be a significant change to where he is at the moment and so would the money!

He will be target 1....if he turns us down we try again, if he turns us down again we try again......you get my drift!

That to me says he is keen.

 

[Meds]

Dermie was saying on SEN last night that we should look at Lingy for the head coach role.

I would love to see him at the club, the knowledge he could share with our young midfield would be invaluable. I don't think we can afford to go for an inexperienced coach though. Roos or Eade in the big chair with Lingy as the midfield coach would be bloody brilliant though.

This is getting dangerous, usually i'm not this excited until draft day...

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

If we can't get Roos now that he's basically said he is 'intrigued' by the position - I'll be pretty disappointed to be honest.

He's a great coach, and not only that but he would make things happen for us financially - and probably with player movement too.

Get him pplzzzzzzz

 

[mrmonkey]

From what I see from Roos on the couch. The way he analyses the game is simply basic fundamentals ie pushing hard defensively when your opponent runs into the forward line. None of this zoning and Harding space nonsense.

 

[Darksidepoints]

"Look, I will take a call," Roos said.
"I am happy to talk if they want me to talk now that Neeld has gone."

If we **** this up, I will never forgive this club.

He is PRECISELY the type of coach we need. Absolute no 1 priority to get this man sewn up ASAP. Then comes the midfield issues.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

"Look, I will take a call," Roos said.
"I am happy to talk if they want me to talk now that Neeld has gone."

If we **** this up, I will never forgive this club.

He is PRECISELY the type of coach we need. Absolute no 1 priority to get this man sewn up ASAP. Then comes the midfield issues.

I wouldn't take it that far, he may just not have the passion anymore.

Our job is try and ignite that (if it isn't there) - I'd be disappointed if we couldn't for sure.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

"Look, I will take a call," Roos said.

"I am happy to talk if they want me to talk now that Neeld has gone.

"I don't have a problem with that. My mindset is it would want to be a significant change ... to where I am at the moment."

It would be a significant change to where he is at the moment and so would the money!

He will be target 1....if he turns us down we try again, if he turns us down again we try again......you get my drift!

Roos said almost the exact same thing to Carlton last year, so seems like a respectful sort of guy in that regard. The one change for him is that his son finishes grade 12 this year and he was never moving back to Melbourne until that had happened.

 

[CTHORANGE]

Dermie was saying on SEN last night that we should look at Lingy for the head coach role.

I would love to see him at the club, the knowledge he could share with our young midfield would be invaluable. I don't think we can afford to go for an inexperienced coach though. Roos or Eade in the big chair with Lingy as the midfield coach would be bloody brilliant though.

This is getting dangerous, usually i'm not this excited until draft day...

I don't think that's quite right, I believe Dermie was saying we should hire Ling to be an advisor / recruiter in finding the next head coach, not to be the head coach himself.

 

[Samsara]

The one thing that frustrates me so much in this whole situation is the fact that the club has gone through several coach sackings and we have a bunch of pea-hearted players who will try and get out of the club rather than taking some responsibility for what has gone on. The administration and board leave a LOT to be desired, but the players are the ones on the field at the end of the day.

Sylvia and Watts are prime examples of this - absolutely pitiful efforts for the most part and absolutely no desire to take on the contest physically (Watts) or in the context of thier talent (Sylvia). Watts is the exact opposite of someone like Hodge, and you need players who resemble the latter, not the former. Sylvia has been on the list for eons and has strung together a handful of good games, despite having so much talent. These aren't the only players who fit into this category either.

 

[Tedeski]

I think it would be the best thing that could happen to the Melbourne Football Club should Paul Roos coach your club.
Roos will bring with him the best football department available.
Something that has been overlooked by the media here is that you guys have our 2005 p'ship fitness guru there at your club, Dave Misson.
Misson followed Ross Lyon to the Saints when they made their assault on the premiership to only just fall short.

As a Melbourne based Swans supporter I feel like I'm starved of footy so I go to many non Swans games.

I'd probably go to plenty Melbourne games if Roosy was coach.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

The one thing that frustrates me so much in this whole situation is the fact that the club has gone through several coach sackings and we have a bunch of pea-hearted players who will try and get out of the club rather than taking some responsibility for what has gone on. The administration and board leave a LOT to be desired, but the players are the ones on the field at the end of the day.

Sylvia and Watts are prime examples of this - absolutely pitiful efforts for the most part and absolutely no desire to take on the contest physically (Watts) or in the context of thier talent (Sylvia). Watts is the exact opposite of someone like Hodge, and you need players who resemble the latter, not the former. Sylvia has been on the list for eons and has strung together a handful of good games, despite having so much talent. These aren't the only players who fit into this category either.

Forgive the outside interjection, but this grinds my gears too. Carlton players saw Pagan get the sack through half hearted effort and did the same for Ratten. They get paid good money to do what they do but seemingly are happy to meander around the park for a couple of years until a coaching change is made. Maybe if they all gave 100% the results will come and they might find the coaching tyrant was not such a bad bloke after all. Coaches are funny like that. Work hard, follow instructions and they tend to like you and treat you better.

You can't get rid of a whole list so the coach is always the one who has to go, but the tail should not wag the dog, especially when they are underperforming so badly.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

The one thing that frustrates me so much in this whole situation is the fact that the club has gone through several coach sackings and we have a bunch of pea-hearted players who will try and get out of the club rather than taking some responsibility for what has gone on. The administration and board leave a LOT to be desired, but the players are the ones on the field at the end of the day.

Sylvia and Watts are prime examples of this - absolutely pitiful efforts for the most part and absolutely no desire to take on the contest physically (Watts) or in the context of thier talent (Sylvia). Watts is the exact opposite of someone like Hodge, and you need players who resemble the latter, not the former. Sylvia has been on the list for eons and has strung together a handful of good games, despite having so much talent. These aren't the only players who fit into this category either.

The players are a product of their environment.

This is shown over and over again.

Look at Port Adelaide and their improvements, its the same group of players that were being called soft and disinterested last year.

Even Peter Jackson said as much yesterday, he wants to convince the players that this is a place they can have positive careers.

You can't expect players to want to stay at our shit club unless we give them that, you can't expect players to go out and perform at their best when all the factors clear point to them not being able to.

I know they cash in great paycheque's and everyone would 'kill' for the chance to be an AFL footballer, but being an AFL footballer isn't as easy as people (like yourself obviously) assume.

I bet half the blokes who pot the players wouldn't last a minute as an AFL player.

 

[hoddo]

Those comments by Roos certainly sound more promising but it's only a small step along the road moving from completely dismissing the idea of coaching again to actually wanting to take us on with the required passion. I don't want him until/unless he shows a burning desire to coach us. I see too much in common with the situation that saw Malcolm Blight's disastrous stint as Saint Kilda coach. Like Roos he was determined not to coach again, but Blight couldn't resist the monetary offer Saint Kilda made and accepted the role. His heart wasn't in it though and he merely went through the motions, reportedly not even showing up to training on many occasions. Before long he was sacked. I'm not suggesting Roos would be that bad, but he's not going to succeed at our club unless he's fully committed to the idea of coaching and has the right incentive, (not a financial one), and drive to make us a top team again.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Allegedly we've been working on him for a while - hence the rumors a couple of months ago which he denied.

If we get the football department setup well it would go a long way to getting him.

Again, 'allegedly'.

Think he's open to coaching, but definitely doesn't want to coach in a sub-standard environment that will lower his reputation.

 

[hoddo]

The players are a product of their environment.
This is shown over and over again.
Look at Port Adelaide and their improvements, its the same group of players that were being called soft and disinterested last year.

Completely agree. I'm sick of reading posts here that write off our players as lazy, useless and talentless. They're not. What they are is dispirited, disillusioned and confused by Neeld's so called game plan .. whatever it was. Under Bailey we saw a game plan based on attack but completely lacking a defensive transition. As a result the players didn't know what to do when the attacking game was shut down and that hesitancy made them look slow and uninterested resulting in occasional big losses. Under Neeld's game plan they were confused most of the time and again looked slow and uninterested resulting in constant big losses. The players could see their careers being flushed down the toilet so it wasn't surprising that many of them are now bitter.

The worst thing is that under Neeld many talented players were alienated and traded away. That's not the way a good coach operates. A coach is, above all, a teacher and should make every effort to get the best out of his players, especially those who have talent, but have attitude problems which mask it.

Look at classic movies such as The Blackboard Jungle (Glenn Ford), Stand And Deliver (James Edward Olmos), and To Sir With Love (Sidney Poitier). These, and several other movies, are about teachers who take on difficult classes full of troubled students. They see the talents that lie beneath the outward behavioural problems of the students and find a way to get through to them. There's a reason they don't make movies about teachers who give up on such students and expel them so that they can have an easier job teaching the "good" kids who remain. That's because they are failures as teachers. The same applies to coaches.

Mark Neeld is an example of those teachers who fail. The great coaches are our game's equivalent of the Fords, Olmoses and Poitiers. That's the kind of coach we need now.

 

[DeesFan]

The reason you go for Roo's is the amount of people that will sign up as a member next year. It will more than cover his cost. This will lead to hope which we have been void off over recent years. He will drive the culture like Swans, he will get player to lift (given what players have done once getting to Swans). The AFL will be happier ...

Roo's will also attract assistant coaches that will love to learn from him.. e.g Black, Ling etc this is what we need around our players.

Its about the quality of people and respect... we have not had one leader that I think the players would look up too.

 

[RUNVS]

The reason you go for Roo's is the amount of people that will sign up as a member next year. It will more than cover his cost. This will lead to hope which we have been void off over recent years. He will drive the culture like Swans, he will get player to lift (given what players have done once getting to Swans). The AFL will be happier ...

Roo's will also attract assistant coaches that will love to learn from him.. e.g Black, Ling etc this is what we need around our players.

Its about the quality of people and respect... we have not had one leader that I think the players would look up too.

That is true as Roos has produced 2 other senior coaches, both of whom who currently have teams inside the top 4. There will be plenty of ex players who have coaching aspirations of their own that would love to do an apprenticeship with Roos.

 

[Tulip]

Roos said in the paper today that it's not about money.

 

[Tulip]

The reason you go for Roo's is the amount of people that will sign up as a member next year. It will more than cover his cost. This will lead to hope which we have been void off over recent years. He will drive the culture like Swans, he will get player to lift (given what players have done once getting to Swans). The AFL will be happier ...

Roo's will also attract assistant coaches that will love to learn from him.. e.g Black, Ling etc this is what we need around our players.

Its about the quality of people and respect... we have not had one leader that I think the players would look up too.

I'd be confident in 40k if he coached us.

 

[ponsdale]

Roos all the way, please.

I'm loving the way he coached Sydney and the legacy that he has left there.

 

[Dory_77]

Roos said in the paper today that it's not about money.

It wasn't all about the money for Ablett or Scully either but I don't think it hurt.
That said though, I do hope it isn't all about cashing in on his current rep. If he isn't really that passionate or prepared to take on the task ahead (which will be huge) then he shouldn't do it.

 

[Crimson Azure]

I agree.

I was going to say "I agree, but I'd hate to see us go back to being defensively inept", but um....

As opposed to universally being inept.

At least we had a chance with that style of play now we have no hope whatsoever & I'd say that although we have some talent in defense we still are as a team 'defensively inept'.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Classy of Roos to say flat out no while Neeld was still coach even though he has some interest.