Merged Collingwood / Eddie discussion threads

[KruZin]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

The 2 Carlton players who shamed the club by showing up to training shit faced a few years ago, were sacked. Angwin immedietly and Norman, subsequently a short time after.

Having said that, they weren't the 2 best players at the club, unlike like Didak and Shaw who are.

Hence why Fev's alchohol indescressions get swept under the carpet in comparison. Simply because the team needs him on field. Those Collingwood boys have put their club in a precarious position. If they suspend them, the Pies will most likely not make the finals.

 

[red+black]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

I think what is becoming clear is that the AFL can no longer wipe their hands of incidents that bring the game into disrepute. Why doesn't the AFl act like a professional organization (a la American sports) and take action against any players that tarnish the brand?

The Collingwood football department and leadership group shouldn't be forced to eat one of their own. The AFL should hand out an appropriate punishment.

That said, I hope Collingwood see fit to fine Heath $20,000. 10k for the incident, another 10k for lying about it.

And Didak, just let all his teammates punch him in the head. Hard.

 

[medusala]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

I think what is becoming clear is that the AFL can no longer wipe their hands of incidents that bring the game into disrepute.

Whilst these guys are clowns its a big call to say that a player drink driving brings the game into disrepute

How many in the general public would accept constant drug testing and large fines for behaviour related to out of work incidences?

How many on BF would like their employers to drug test them?

I dont think the AFL is at the Wests/NRL stage.

 

[jenny61_99]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

The 2 Carlton players who shamed the club by showing up to training shit faced a few years ago, were sacked. Angwin immedietly and Norman, subsequently a short time after.

Having said that, they weren't the 2 best players at the club, unlike like Didak and Shaw who are.

Hence why Fev's alchohol indescressions get swept under the carpet in comparison. Simply because the team needs him on field. Those Collingwood boys have put their club in a precarious position. If they suspend them, the Pies will most likely not make the finals.

So it's ok to deal with the players harshly if they aren't stars but to go softly softly if they are? Not sure what sort of message that sends to your younger players if the star's indiscretions get swept under the carpet.

 

[Topper]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

How would we handle it? haha, a lot better than Collingwood,

Stevie J.......................

 

[Smiley43]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

So it's ok to deal with the players harshly if they aren't stars but to go softly softly if they are? Not sure what sort of message that sends to your younger players if the star's indiscretions get swept under the carpet.

Way to intelligent to be a crows supporter. Nicely said.

This is exactly the point why Didak should be gone. Regardless of how good they are on the field, were all humans, and deserved to be treated as equals.

If he hadn't lied, slap him with a fine, but he tried to get away with it, so he has to pay the price.

 

[dmc333]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Whilst these guys are clowns its a big call to say that a player drink driving brings the game into disrepute

How many in the general public would accept constant drug testing and large fines for behaviour related to out of work incidences?

How many on BF would like their employers to drug test them?

I dont think the AFL is at the Wests/NRL stage.

It comes with the territory though, you can't compare it with the general public and their employment. If you put your hand up to go into the draft, you're already accepting conditions will be placed on your after hour behavior and you will be drug tested.

If you don't want to accept any of this, I'm sure there's a few cashed up bush clubs happy to fix you up with a job and some decent match payments.

 

[KruZin]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

So it's ok to deal with the players harshly if they aren't stars but to go softly softly if they are? Not sure what sort of message that sends to your younger players if the star's indiscretions get swept under the carpet.

I'm not saying it's right or anything. Just being realistic. Collingwood's season is on the line. If they drop their 2 best players and lose, their supporters may turn feral. (more so)

 

[Thommo 42]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

How would we handle it? haha, a lot better than Collingwood,

Stevie J.......................

Bad example. At the time, you had just tried to trade him to the Pies and he was fat and unfit and not neccessarily in the best 22 at Geelong as a result.

It worked a treat though.

What sanctions did David Johnson get for assaulting 3 people and police on the even of the grand final?

 

[The Fireman]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

I'm not saying it's right or anything. Just being realistic. Collingwood's season is on the line. If they drop their 2 best players and lose, their supporters may turn feral. (more so)

Or maybe it would be a good chance for these fans to show that they can accept the hard decisions for the betterment of the bigger picture (Club Culture, respect,message to the kids etc)

 

[Topper]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Bad example. At the time, you had just tried to trade him to the Pies and he was fat and unfit and not neccessarily in the best 22 at Geelong as a result.

It worked a treat though.

What sanctions did David Johnson get for assaulting 3 people and police on the even of the grand final?

oookkkaaaaaaaayy..........

 

[Deepthroat]

Malthouses role in off-field shenanigans

Is it time someone examined the Malthouse legacy at the two clubs he has spent the last 19 seasons at?

He left West Coast in a state with players behaving like heavy metal drummers on weekends.

Now Collingwood players seem to value the party and play hard lifestyle too much.

Is he a cancer?

 

[peternorth]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

expecting collingwood to up their push for j brown?

 

[ant22]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

How would we handle it? haha, a lot better than Collingwood,

Stevie J.......................

and what penalty did stevie get for driving at twice the speed limit earlier this year? Surely this crime is far worse than the incident crime of taking a leak in the street of a 1 horse town. Lets face it the reason for the 6 weeks was because johnson was a lazy out of shape good for nothing footballer at the time and it was his last chance to get fit. 12 months later as an All australian he commits a worse crime and does not get a single game.

Glass houses......

 

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

The 2 Carlton players who shamed the club by showing up to training shit faced a few years ago, were sacked. Angwin immedietly and Norman, subsequently a short time after.

Having said that, they weren't the 2 best players at the club, unlike like Didak and Shaw who are.

Hence why Fev's alchohol indescressions get swept under the carpet in comparison. Simply because the team needs him on field. Those Collingwood boys have put their club in a precarious position. If they suspend them, the Pies will most likely not make the finals.

That is probably the best comparative example of double standards as they had been on it with the very blokes who were the leadership group.

No club handles these things well - everyone is still learning how to deal with a public that has a personal camera & video cam with them everywhere they go, an internet that spreads stories faster than you can read them, a media that is increasingly marginalised by their obsession with private lives of footballers and their fight to mainatain relevance with 'new' media and of course, blokes who can play a bit of footy and can play up just as hard.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Under Sheedy - no different.

Under Knights - One would be sacked and the other would be on his last warning.

 

[KruZin]

Re: IF Collingwood and Eddie were serious they would.........

Below is a quote from an article in today's AGE.

McGuire described the passenger as a "so-called friend" for letting Shaw get behind the wheel drunk. "There comes a time in your life when you have to get rid of scaly mates, let me tell you."

Wonder what Eddie will do now that the "scaly mate" has been revealed to be Didak. Get rid of him?

 

[mollyfud]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Whether my or your club would have suspended Shaw for the drink driving incident, they all would have taken there players word (if under heavy questioning they said it wasn't true that Didak wasn't in the car) and supported them when asked about Didak being in the car. So how they handle the lying is a second issue.

Hawthorn have gone on record that they would suspend there players if it is found that they did something wrong enough.


And on those that said that the Pies didn't make the punishment tough enough, look at what Didak did to avoid being involved. He obviously was scared of being involved with this, and one of the reasons was the clubs view of it (look at what Eddie said about the "mate").

 

[coasting]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Still allowed to play on the weekend? Thats a disgrace.

When are the AFL going to get serious on clubs not named the WCE?

 

[Shawt]

Re: Malthouses role in off-field shenanigans

..and would that make Worsfold the heir apparent drug + booze baron? Both playing through and coaching of the metal drummer's decent into madness?

There is something to be said for personal accountability.

Didak will find that out today, which may well be the last time he is considered a Collingwood player.

The Pies will need to look at how a senior player gets to that point, and is willing to lie to save his own neck.. and drag other players down with him. I don't think it starts, or ends on Malthouse's head though

 

[Turkey Tom]

Re: Malthouses role in off-field shenanigans

"Win at all costs" is his legacy, and Woosha has followed in his footsteps (re Cousins).

This was the general attitude of all clubs when Malthouse was at WCE, but this is not the case anymore and only those living in the past, or wishing they were, follow this policy.

 

[starkravenmad2]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

If at the swans id say didak would be gone and shaw would be suspended indefinatly or till the shrink says he fine...Im sure we would have suspended didak after the hudson episode happened but not sure the result would be any differant as he does seem particularly dumb....but collingwood should have been alot harder with him after that than bs clauses they were never gonna enforce

 

[The Fireman]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Collingwood, by not implementing a good behavioral clause in Didaks new contract was the first big mistake by them, what sort of message did that send?
The Club itself must bear a fair bit of the responsibility concerning the players indiscretions.

 

[melb_will]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

We'd get an injunction

 

[mollyfud]

Re: How would YOUR Club handle the Didak/Shaw situation?

Collingwood, by not implementing a good behavioral clause in Didaks new contract was the first big mistake by them, what sort of message did that send?
The Club itself must bear a fair bit of the responsibility concerning the players indiscretions.

The question is is he on that new contract yet or is he on the old one until he gets to next year (if he gets that far).
I don't think it matters as if they want to sack him, they will sack him.