Minor things that annoy you about the game

[PhatBoy]

Get rid of push in the back and bring back hands in the back. less room for error

I actually think MOSTLY this rule is policed fairly well.

for a long time we saw it in our games with Hawkins - guys not able to compete with him for strength would get in front of him, back into him and any effort he made to hold his ground was blown as a free for the opposition.
Players have to be able to hold out players who back into them as opposed to the understandably illegal action of moving forward towards the back of an opponent and shoving them under the ball

 

[Bungeye]

What do you mean goal kicking is at an all time low? Because on any definition, it is not.

Have you seen the amount of first quarter goals missed when players are still fresh?
I can't be bothered finding the stats, but if it isn't at an all time low, than I would shudder to think what it was like 40 years ago!

 

[Bungeye]

That is pretty tough for a player to do when he takes possession and there are 30 players ahead of him within a 50 metre range.

There are plenty of times when a player can run and gun with the ball from turnovers!

 

[SJ]

Have you seen the amount of first quarter goals missed when players are still fresh?
I can't be bothered finding the stats, but if it isn't at an all time low, than I would shudder to think what it was like 40 years ago!

You better start shuddering then!

 

[JoondalupJ]

Bump. Have just started to notice the SUNS in capital letters everywhere recently. Haven't been able to find out anything in regards to why this is.

Suns and Giants should not exist, we have diluted our competition standard, downwards. 16 was almost too many, and the game is being murdered by over umpiring petty touching penalties and 50 m penalties that are seriously unfair.

 

[RUNVS]

Suns and Giants should not exist, we have diluted our competition standard, downwards. 16 was almost too many, and the game is being murdered by over umpiring petty touching penalties and 50 m penalties that are seriously unfair.

How are the Suns responsible for over umpiring, petty touching penalties and 50m penalties?

 

[D-N-R]

The new rule where free kicks / marks are taken from the top of goal square.

Every single time, the defender runs to where the player has the ball and the umpire has to tell them " back to the 9", then the player pretends not to hear the umpire, so the umpire has to repeat it and the defender has succeeded in holding up play.

A game on the weekend, a player did this, the umpire came in to set him on the 9. The player with the ball squared it across goal, and the defender ran across and stood in the same position on the other side he was just instructed not to stand in. Umpire had to repeat...

It's about time the umpires started penalising players for going over the mark.

 

[CrowInFiji]

I would be in disagreement.

Well of course the concept of consistent rules would be foreign to a Geelong fan

 

[2Knights]

I’m sure it’s been said before, but the fact we are the only sport in the world that blows the whistle to stop play, and to play advantage is just beyond idiotic.

This was pointed out to the AFL when they changed the 'play advantage' rule. Of course, they refused to listen.

 

[FlyHigh18]

I'm sure it's been mentioned before... players putting their hands up and looking at the umpire for a free before the ball even goes out of bounds really really bugs me.

A couple of teams do it way more than others which tells me they're being trained to do it. I hate it

There was an instance on the weekend where the ball actually stayed in and was picked up by the opposition player. Just end up looking like a dill

 

[JoondalupJ]

How are the Suns responsible for over umpiring, petty touching penalties and 50m penalties?

Indirectly while diluting the competition the AFL have changed and changed and changed the rules
the way the game is played why ? Because the player pool is not filling the 18 clubs with enough elite footballers, so the powers that be simply have to look a t ways to make them able to cope, not all players but a lot, look at goal kicking look at handball, look at touching the arms in a marking contest, top line real football minded players wipe out the ones who may or should not have been selected as a firsts player at elite level. So the eliteness is dragged back a bit, so if they can't hold a mark the defender gets free kicked AGAINST, and a not so 1st graded player gets to make up numbers, in a first class competition, above the head penalties when a fingernail touches that spot, the game is a contact sport but the confusion about what is allowed is a nonsense for me beyond comprehension, in fact it stops contest, because even if you get a good contest you will find half the time a free is pulled out of the behind of an umpire, if you haven't witnessed this for the last ten or more years, then you don't watch football. Also 50 metre penalties for the new statue rule (that rule is a good change its opened the game up but its about the only twisting of the rules that has been good)
Bum[ing Tackling hip and shoulders are now scutinised that players hesitate or get told they have to make decisions in a split second that are impossible, then get suspended sometimes, the game has gone insane, where lots of the time your on edge waiting for that damned whistle , lots of time you have no idea what for. The 50 metre is a thing that needs serious looking at and the running through the kickers space why the hell have that when the man on the mark can't move. Really don't be blind the standard is less, the skills are less, and the player pool for super elite 1sts footballers is too small.
That is why we should have 16 clubs, manufactured set ups that take money make rule changes so badly, just to get 18 teams for more TV money, that is what Suns/giants have done in my opinion. Imagine the standard with only 16 clubs , it means you don't have to add 100 players in pool numbers to get two new teams, which is what you have to have to create two new manufactured football sides, 100 people to add to the 16 club lists, and that is why we HAVE TOO MANY CLUBS IN A SMALL POPULATION,
There are some kids that get games that probably wouldn't have ever been selected in a 16 club comp, that is what is the problem and since the AFL went hell bent for leather to change everythjing the contest contact has been eroded the game is castrated to political correctness, and I know some boys still hit like trains, fine, but some can't read football, some can't kick or handball properly the AFL has let the game become so over paced that injuries are all over the place, and when a gun team kicks two goals in a unexpected loss in the whole game, well you simply got to ask the question?
There you go pull all that apart, really?

Remember both the Suns and the Giants are not running along that well, almost failures, Giant GF 2019 was a shamozzle and an embarrasment.
BUT this is not about the 2 manufactured entities it is all about the AFL / McGlachlan money hungry spoilers.
That is who to blame.
Its been deteriorating since about 2003 to 2005 ( Demitriou in there as well) and right up to now, where umpires destroy the flow. Why? Because some players are not up to it. Then in comes the revenue raisers, the TV rights, smack bang in the middle of the game/rule fiddling. There you go ???
We nearly have 2 divisions, there goes the traditions down the toilet, and we already had the Rugby states covered, Lions and Swans, only money from TV stations brought two clubs unneeded in, now it was said last week that the AFL will have to prop up the Suns again. Football needs to be the toughest hardest most skillful game and unique on this planet, right now it is fading.
However up markety it looks its less of a game in lots of areas than it was!

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

How are the Suns responsible for over umpiring, petty touching penalties and 50m penalties?

Who cares, they are also to blame for climate change and Covid 19 IMO.

 

[Walshawk]

1. Umps calling 'touched, play on' every time a played gets close in an attempt to smother. There are 4 - 6 incorrect calls each match. This leads to the player who catches it pretending they did not here the call and a ball up. If the ump is not 100% sure it is touched off the boot, it is play on.
2. Umps not paying push in the back when a player is pushed as he kicks. It should be downfield.
3. Players not giving the ball back immediately after a free when caught HTB. They know. Should be 50 each time.
4. Free kicks in a marking contest where that team marks it anyway. Should be advantage and the mark paid.
5. Time not being reset after a bad bounce that is then thrown up. We have the technology, just wind the clock back 2 - 4 seconds.
6. Umps not calling running too far - Cripps ran 30m before kicking that goal on the weekend. Every kick-out they run 30m. Bouncing the ball is not hard. If they don't bounce it, pay the free.
7. That a kick off the side of the boot or off the ground that goes forward but out of bounds is a free for deliberate, but a player actually deliberately paddling or running the ball over the line is not.
8. Players spitting constantly. There is no need. You don't see basketballers spitting. Disgusting habit.
9. Player punching other players. Agree with Bob Murphy. A punch is a punch. No room for it in the game. Automatic suspension.
10. Player interviews post match. Generally a waste of time. ''They are a good team, we knew that they would come our firing, blah, blah, blah" Where are the personalities in the game? Don't interview Buddy or Dusty just because they are stars - they are boring. Find some players who have a personality and are prepared to be open, honest and have a laugh.

 

[2Knights]

How are the Suns responsible for over umpiring, petty touching penalties and 50m penalties?

The game hasn't been over-umpired in decades. Incorrect disposal, Push in the Back and Holding the Man are all severely under-umpired.

 

[armpit]

Just a minor thing. The umpiring. Watching games where it becomes clearer and clearer that too many results are being determined by the umpires. The gutlessness of the media men not making more of it. That the coaches put up with it because they're not allowed to mention it, because they'll get smacked by the afl. It makes you think why this is so. If it's because of the link to gambling then it really gets my goat.

And the booing of the west coast fans.

 

[mr bagcroft]

Am..Gerard Whately.

 

[JackFlash]

Minor issues in the AFL? They're all major as far as i'm concerned.

But here goes: Commentators and commentary in general ( just tell us who has the ball)
The reliance on meaningless stats. (David King goes overboard)
Socks not being pulled up at all times. (No wonder they keep missing goals from 30 metres out)
Port away strip ( It's awful)
No more white coats for Goal Umpires. ( Goal Umpires look terrible, the white coat gave them character)
Essendon clash away strip ( just reverse it like Richmond)
White away strips in general ( I have no idea who is playing sometimes)
The decline in use of the drop punt for goal ( They can't kick and have lost the art)
The lack of identifiable Collingwood away strip ( Indefensible they haven't got a proper away strip for matches against North)
Bring back the RED Ball! ( Is the yellow one the reason they kick so badly?)

 

[PhatBoy]

Indirectly while diluting the competition the AFL have changed and changed and changed the rules
the way the game is played why ? Because the player pool is not filling the 18 clubs with enough elite footballers, so the powers that be simply have to look a t ways to make them able to cope, not all players but a lot, look at goal kicking look at handball, look at touching the arms in a marking contest, top line real football minded players wipe out the ones who may or should not have been selected as a firsts player at elite level. So the eliteness is dragged back a bit, so if they can't hold a mark the defender gets free kicked AGAINST, and a not so 1st graded player gets to make up numbers, in a first class competition, above the head penalties when a fingernail touches that spot, the game is a contact sport but the confusion about what is allowed is a nonsense for me beyond comprehension, in fact it stops contest, because even if you get a good contest you will find half the time a free is pulled out of the behind of an umpire, if you haven't witnessed this for the last ten or more years, then you don't watch football. Also 50 metre penalties for the new statue rule (that rule is a good change its opened the game up but its about the only twisting of the rules that has been good)
Bum[ing Tackling hip and shoulders are now scutinised that players hesitate or get told they have to make decisions in a split second that are impossible, then get suspended sometimes, the game has gone insane, where lots of the time your on edge waiting for that damned whistle , lots of time you have no idea what for. The 50 metre is a thing that needs serious looking at and the running through the kickers space why the hell have that when the man on the mark can't move. Really don't be blind the standard is less, the skills are less, and the player pool for super elite 1sts footballers is too small.
That is why we should have 16 clubs, manufactured set ups that take money make rule changes so badly, just to get 18 teams for more TV money, that is what Suns/giants have done in my opinion. Imagine the standard with only 16 clubs , it means you don't have to add 100 players in pool numbers to get two new teams, which is what you have to have to create two new manufactured football sides, 100 people to add to the 16 club lists, and that is why we HAVE TOO MANY CLUBS IN A SMALL POPULATION,
There are some kids that get games that probably wouldn't have ever been selected in a 16 club comp, that is what is the problem and since the AFL went hell bent for leather to change everythjing the contest contact has been eroded the game is castrated to political correctness, and I know some boys still hit like trains, fine, but some can't read football, some can't kick or handball properly the AFL has let the game become so over paced that injuries are all over the place, and when a gun team kicks two goals in a unexpected loss in the whole game, well you simply got to ask the question?
There you go pull all that apart, really?

Remember both the Suns and the Giants are not running along that well, almost failures, Giant GF 2019 was a shamozzle and an embarrasment.
BUT this is not about the 2 manufactured entities it is all about the AFL / McGlachlan money hungry spoilers.
That is who to blame.
Its been deteriorating since about 2003 to 2005 ( Demitriou in there as well) and right up to now, where umpires destroy the flow. Why? Because some players are not up to it. Then in comes the revenue raisers, the TV rights, smack bang in the middle of the game/rule fiddling. There you go ???
We nearly have 2 divisions, there goes the traditions down the toilet, and we already had the Rugby states covered, Lions and Swans, only money from TV stations brought two clubs unneeded in, now it was said last week that the AFL will have to prop up the Suns again. Football needs to be the toughest hardest most skillful game and unique on this planet, right now it is fading.
However up markety it looks its less of a game in lots of areas than it was!

TL/DR

funny how for 100 years there was a VFL and two entire state leagues worth of players that could easily fill out multiple extra teams with AFL standard talent but suddenly now 80 additional AFL contracts has completely bled the entire 23 million strong Australian population of good enough players to make it to the top level.

 

[Chuckie357]

When a player marks the ball and in the same contest his team mate wins a free kick but they insist on giving the ball to the player that got the freekick and not just paying the mark.

Also goal umpires in general. Just get rid of them, there is no need for them anymore.

Who would the girls umpires be condescending towards then?

 

[Danger Zone]

I'm still annoyed about the decision to make an 18th team in the GC instead of Tasmania. Not blaming the Suns or their supporters, but we should have rewarded a footballing state first before shoehorning another team into QLD.

 

[Chuckie357]

Players not being able to hear the umpires call.

A common example would be when an umpire calls a kick "touched off the boot", a player then catches the ball and stops like it's a mark. The player then gets tackled, acts confused and the umpire gives him the benefit of the doubt and balls it up.

Umpires already wear microphones, would it be that hard to wear some sort of speaker as well?

They have a speaker already….their mouth, but most of them are too budy big noting themselves or saying other crap to use it propely - Stevic and Chamberlain are the prime examples

 

[The wily weagle]

Not manning up the 2 players that inevitably stand alone in each forward pocket after every kick in. Even in close games where the opposition needs the ball back.

Drives me crazy

 

[PhatBoy]

What is the rule regarding defenders marking the man kicking the ball in? Seems obscene that teams trailing just routinely let the kicker run 15 metres from the top of the square to clear the ball from the 50

 

[Chuckie357]

Now that you can run straight out and play on straight away from the goal square and no longer just have to kick the ball, umpires not penalizing throws when players throw it to another player who wants to take the kick, or throwing it outside of the square or hand balling outside of the square without calling play on

 

[tiger_tough]

1. 'In the backs' that had no affect on the disposal or the receiving players safety. Who cares? Play on.
2. Umpires calling play on nearly straight away after a mark when the player doesn't even take a step or move off the line. Or when they pretend to give off a handball or kick but don't move off the line. Seems to be happening more and more.