Moira Deeming v John Pesutto

[Gough]

I think that indemnification would work if you had somebody like Pesutto as leader. But what if you had Deeming? Indemnifying Deeming for saying silly things sounds like something which would send you broke.

From an electoral point of view, I don't think it really matters who's leading the party as long as it is so clearly divided between reasonable and unreasonable.

Or, the reasonable will consider that they can never win unless the party is united and that the unreasonable will never use such reason. So the only way to win is if the reasonable people cede to the unreasonable who take over and hope they can hide their stupidity long enough to get elected.

After failing with Family First and the resurrected DLP the nutters decided that it was easier and a lot cheaper to take over the Liberal Party.

 

[kalex6251]

this is so funny ..... held hostage by a bunch of god bothering zealots - cheered on from the sidelines by equally unhinged morons like panahi, credlin and the rest of the murdoch hyena attack squad ....... what a f*n rabble

 

[Jascave]

What would be the best case and worst case scenario for Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen in the upcoming Liberal leadership spill against Opposition Leader John Pesutto?

 

[CM86]

I feel like this should be a much larger current issue than it seems to be.



We have more media discussion and social media discussion about a set of stairs than this.

Would it be different if this was an ALP situation?

 

[The Punter]

I feel like this should be a much larger current issue than it seems to be.



We have more media discussion and social media discussion about a set of stairs than this.

Would it be different if this was an ALP situation?

The issue here is much, much too much discussion about stairs (although, to be fair, haven't seen much recently about the former Premier's fall).

When Andrews retired there was a long ALP party room meeting where Ben Carroll was essentially brow-beaten into withdrawing his nomination for leader. The story was over in two days. Once Pesutto was off the stand the story died down until the opportunists got texting to Shannon Deery and Annika Smethurst (the two journos almost certainly shared the same source) and now we are off.

Last night The Age was reporting Kim Wells was being sounded out about running for the leadership. The anti-Pesutto forces don't have a palatable candidate it would seem.

 

[kalex6251]

kim wells .... LMFAO

 

[Saint]

Allen would certainly want one of the nutter brigade to win. They'll have a hard-core support base who will be difficult to dislodge but also unelectable. They'll also have support from the National Liberal Party.

Think Trump, but with 20% less popular support. Completely incapable of Governing, but will be very hard to dislodge from the party leadership once they take over.

There's very few ALP MPs who could lose a state election to Moira Deeming. At the moment, it seems the Liberal Party room still understands that their leader needs to have popular support.

If a moderate wins (or stays), it's still a good result for Allen, because the nutters aren't quitting. The next election will undoubtedly include pre-selections of people for Liberal seats who have shady nutter-histories with statements and previous policy positions which will bleed votes. And with a moderate at the helm, the nutters are always trying to make the point (aided by Sky News) that the party isn't right-wing enough and go around saying right-wing-nutter-things which might be popular in outback Qld/NSW, but cost votes in Melbourne.

Won't be resolved until both wings of the party come to an agreement and compromise. Religious nutters are not renowned for their ability to compromise, so the moderates will probably end up compromising too far and remaining unelectable....