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More reward for finishing top
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Clearly all Melbourne Cricket Club members only signed up so they could attend the boxing day test...
The problem I see isn't so much that top isn't rewarded, but that they are disadvantaged in the preliminary final by getting the harder opponent (as a few have pointed out). The finals system doesn't have to specifically give the top team additional benefits that no other teams get, but it should never at any point disadvantage the top team over another.
Recent history shows the GF needs to be able to seat 90,000+
Unless we have stadiums in different states that can do that then no, keep it at the G.
If we want to reward the top team, maybe some sort of Financial prize for finishing top?
Unless we have stadiums in different states that can do that then no, keep it at the G.
If we want to reward the top team, maybe some sort of Financial prize for finishing top?
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The team finishing top will get a harder prelim if the team finishing second loses. It's a curious issue with the current system I think. Why should say Hawthorn get disadvantaged because Geelong lost in week 1?
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Whilst I would love having a GF in Brisbane in a stadium that could hold 90,000+, Melbourne does it best. You can't beat grand final week in Melbourne and the MCG on grand final day. I love the tradition and grandeur of it all.
Clearly all Melbourne Cricket Club members only signed up so they could attend the boxing day test...
maybe we're going to need a "Sneaking in to the Boxing Day Test" thread in December.
The fact they might want it partly or even fully for AFL patronage, doesn't make it any less of a cricket membership.Clearly all Melbourne Cricket Club members only signed up so they could attend the boxing day test...
But the fact that people want it for AFL patronage means that the argument of 'it's a cricket membership, therefore they shouldn't be allowed into the AFL grand final' is invalid.
The best stadium in the land is the MCG, so there's no bigger reward. Surely
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IIRC the other 3 are best out of a 7 game series, split 4-3 between the respective teams' home grounds, with the higher finisher getting the 4 at home. An advantage sure, but not a massive one.
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I personally don't give a shit what they signed up for, it isn't benefiting the league or the clubs who make the grand final.Clearly all Melbourne Cricket Club members only signed up so they could attend the boxing day test...
It's a cricket membership which entitles them to free football at the expense of the clubs who make it.
You could give 30000 to each competing club if it was held in Sydney.
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Can't happen until the current contract with the MCC expires.
The MCC paid for most of the stadium upgrade - pretty sure that the league has benefited from that...
Definition of free: 'without cost or payment'
Cost of MCC membership: $624 per year, plus $900 joining fee, plus $110 nomination fee, plus additional 10 year wait (or more) for access to the AFL grand final (in which membership fees must be paid yearly) after the initial 15 year waiting period. In other words, members pay around $7000+ before they are even allowed to attend an AFL grand final.
I think finishing top four should be more recognised, the top four gives you a double chance which already makes it so much easier for top four teams to excel in the finals. It is this category that should be the aim.
As for within the top four, finishing as high as possible in that category, such as 1st, gives you a bigger advantage at keeping your spot in that elusive top four - but staying 1st also gives you an advantage in keeping your spot in the top two, and thus, by finishing 1st, you not only have a home final game with an extra day break by playing on Friday, you're also playing the worst of the top four in the chance to get a week off, which is the 4th positioned team. The 2nd playing the second worst.
Whether anyone likes it or not, the premiership is the holy grail, always will be. The subsequent positions on the ladder, in their own little categories (outside the top four, inside the top four, within the top two) all present different aspects in the avenue to the said premiership.
The ladder that determines the finals standings should be seen as categories, not individual positions - and the subsequent rewards for finishing in the highest individual position is the higher liklihood of staying within that category - followed by small rewards such as extra day's break, home finals, the team you play preceding a possible avenue to the week off after the first week, historic record reasons, etc;
As for within the top four, finishing as high as possible in that category, such as 1st, gives you a bigger advantage at keeping your spot in that elusive top four - but staying 1st also gives you an advantage in keeping your spot in the top two, and thus, by finishing 1st, you not only have a home final game with an extra day break by playing on Friday, you're also playing the worst of the top four in the chance to get a week off, which is the 4th positioned team. The 2nd playing the second worst.
Whether anyone likes it or not, the premiership is the holy grail, always will be. The subsequent positions on the ladder, in their own little categories (outside the top four, inside the top four, within the top two) all present different aspects in the avenue to the said premiership.
The ladder that determines the finals standings should be seen as categories, not individual positions - and the subsequent rewards for finishing in the highest individual position is the higher liklihood of staying within that category - followed by small rewards such as extra day's break, home finals, the team you play preceding a possible avenue to the week off after the first week, historic record reasons, etc;
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Please elaborate...
The Team that wins the Premiership, should be rewarded with the No.1 Draft Pick the following year. It's about time success was rewarded, not failure!!!
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How many seats are taken up by MCC members at the GF?
I reckon the AFL could probably divy up 30,000 seats per competing club now, if they wanted to.
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The team that wins the Grand Final should be called the Premier for that year, get medals, be allowed to jump on a stage and get a shiny, big cup. For too long have we been rewarding poor performers and mediocrity. Instigate these changes immediately Mr Oakley!!!
Finishing 1st -should get rewarded -but doesnt
I think 1st should play 1 less final than 2nd 3rd or 4th
Stkilda won their 1st 20 games in 2009 - like that is an outstanding effort - you should get a clear advantage for that performance - but you dont
I think 1st should play 1 less final than 2nd 3rd or 4th
Stkilda won their 1st 20 games in 2009 - like that is an outstanding effort - you should get a clear advantage for that performance - but you dont
How about we stop trying to conform to what the other professional codes are doing. Next thing we know we will have stoppages of the game during a play and time outs every 5 seconds.
That would mean we bring back the old school 2nd Semi (1st v whoever), winner to GF and only 1 PF.
OR
1st gets two weeks off, goes straight to a PF, but no double chance if they lose.
W1
6 v 9
7 v 8
W2
2 v (7 v 8)
3 v (6 v 9)
4 v 5
W3
1 v (4 v 5)
2/7/8 v 3/6/9
W4
GF
