Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

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That's fine. So the only sane response would be to galvanise everyone who thinks that way to make videos of them being so outraged that they shoot their beer with automatic rifles or drive over a can with a suburban tank. At least they are not triggered or anything.

They boycotted.

The company lost market share and a heap of money.

The company probably won't do it again.

The customers won.
 

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Periodic reminder:

A costume is worn for comic effect. The category of humor varies:
  • contrast or juxtaposition of the costume wearer and the subject
  • topical reference to controversy
  • surprise caused by high quality / accuracy of costume
  • irony
  • characterized playful sexualisation of a profession

Wearing a costume does not imply an endorsement of the person or thing the costume seeks to portray. Specifically, it does not imply either an endorsement of, or a flippant attitude towards any wrong doing undertaken by the portrayed person or thing.

Dressing as Jeffrey Epstein does not imply a flippant attitude to paedophilia any more than dressing as a zombie implies a flippant attitude to murder.

Any member of the media, club administration or the broader community who does not understand this should be offered counselling.

People participating in fun, end of year activities should not have their behaviour regulated by ignorant, unthinking and unsophisticated people who falsely interpret of offence.

You see… and I’ll go through this slowly… what has happened is the wider community become more aware of the stories of others. We’ve learned things.

Let’s take your Epstein example, as that’s what you raised. He’s been exposed as having facilitated the sexual abuse of minors.

While you find it funny if somebody dresses up as him - I might too - it will not be funny to those who were sexually abused by adults when they were children.

There’s a lot of those people - we know that. Statistically, it’s almost certain you know at least one person who was sexually abused as a child. You’re just not aware of it.

They’d have felt sick at the stories of Epstein. “Comic effect”… well, not for all. Even though they hide it.

So you be a bit careful as most people aren’t really in the game of hurting others and creating “comic effect” based on their trauma.

Know your crowd. If somebody doesn’t find something funny, you’ve failed. And they might even have a good reason for it.
 
You see… and I’ll go through this slowly… what has happened is the wider community become more aware of the stories of others. We’ve learned things.

Let’s take your Epstein example, as that’s what you raised. He’s been exposed as having facilitated the sexual abuse of minors.

While you find it funny if somebody dresses up as him - I might too - it will not be funny to those who were sexually abused by adults when they were children.

There’s a lot of those people - we know that. Statistically, it’s almost certain you know at least one person who was sexually abused as a child. You’re just not aware of it.

They’d have felt sick at the stories of Epstein. “Comic effect”… well, not for all. Even though they hide it.

So you be a bit careful as most people aren’t really in the game of hurting others and creating “comic effect” based on their trauma.

Know your crowd. If somebody doesn’t find something funny, you’ve failed. And they might even have a good reason for it.
This is why things like end of year office xmas parties have gone the way of the dodo. It only takes a single person to take offence, and you're cooked regardless of intentions.
 
This is why things like end of year office xmas parties have gone the way of the dodo. It only takes a single person to take offence, and you're cooked regardless of intentions.

You’re not able to have a big end of year office Xmas party without making a joke about the rape of minors?

Ok
 
So someone dressed up as Raygun and another as P Diddy

Just how soft is this.

90% of Australia has been taking the piss out of Raygun since the Olympics... Better order some extra beds for the local correctional facilities then 🙄🙄🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
 
This is why things like end of year office xmas parties have gone the way of the dodo. It only takes a single person to take offence, and you're cooked regardless of intentions.
The correct response would not be to blame the person who was offended (because you may never know their reasons) but to instead ask questions of those who were causing offence in the first place. Having said that, the main reason why office parties are not as common now is that people used to drink and drive and there were deaths - and these were traced back to company-endorsed events. This put the companies into a legal and financial minefield so they were better off just not having them. Now, does that mean that everyone drank too much and drove? Of course not, but the rare person did and ruined it for others, so we don't blame the families of those who died in car accidents, but instead we should blame the instigators of the bad behaviour in the first place.
 

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A a player only event, at this point it doesn't look like there's any footage of anything, so has one of their team mates dobbed the rest of them in and the club has panicked and self reported incase some footage does pop up.

Piss weak, back your players until you can't anymore.
If your mates are being shit, call you your mates for it, don't defend them.
 
You’re not able to have a big end of year office Xmas party without making a joke about the rape of minors?

Ok
No, you’re not allowed to have a big end of year office party because of intersecting layers of policies and regulations on safety. Some justified. Others just cases of companies and bureaucracies wanting to reduce risks
 
You see… and I’ll go through this slowly… what has happened is the wider community become more aware of the stories of others. We’ve learned things.

Let’s take your Epstein example, as that’s what you raised. He’s been exposed as having facilitated the sexual abuse of minors.

While you find it funny if somebody dresses up as him - I might too - it will not be funny to those who were sexually abused by adults when they were children.

There’s a lot of those people - we know that. Statistically, it’s almost certain you know at least one person who was sexually abused as a child. You’re just not aware of it.

They’d have felt sick at the stories of Epstein. “Comic effect”… well, not for all. Even though they hide it.

So you be a bit careful as most people aren’t really in the game of hurting others and creating “comic effect” based on their trauma.

Know your crowd. If somebody doesn’t find something funny, you’ve failed. And they might even have a good reason for it.
This is all 100% true and accurate. However, I guess in this instance who is defined as the "Crowd"?

Does the definition of "Crowd" extend to the staff of the establishment? If the door is opened by an invited patron walking into the private room and a passer by gets 10 seconds of view, do they become part of the "Crowd".
 
This is all 100% true and accurate. However, I guess in this instance who is defined as the "Crowd"?

Does the definition of "Crowd" extend to the staff of the establishment? If the door is opened by an invited patron walking into the private room and a passer by gets 10 seconds of view, do they become part of the "Crowd".

Your crowd is whoever is watching, isn’t it?
 
Geelong do Mad Monday better than most. Raygun was an obvious candidate for a piss take but not one of them went there. I wonder if they were warned off.
Do you or ANYONE ELSE know why Raygun would be a "No Go-zone" I am so out of the loop that all I know is that

1. She did a horrible performance at the Olympics; and
2. She may of done dodgy stuff to get herself to the Olympics when not appropriately qualified.
 
No, I wouldn't say that's the 'market at work'. The markets are producers and consumers. Historically speaking the free market responded to consumer demand. In the post 2000's, DEI executives and advertising execs educated in far left universities began to tell everyone that "this won't sell", "this isn't acceptable", and despite there being zero evidence in support of that group think rose and those concepts were accepted as fact. It's the same reason that modern day advertising is no longer sexualised. Because left wing academics said it was problematic and "culture" execs banned it. That is despite the fact that sex does in fact sell, as seen by platforms like Instagram where the substantial majority of the largest creators are sexualised. Now i'm not saying I need Cougar Bourbon ads back on my screen, but I certainly haven't had a Cougar Bourbon product since I was 18 years old.
That's not true.

In the post 2000s, Big Data became a thing. Businesses know what sells, and they know what people that don't buy their stuff are into it.They know where and how to sell it.

Speaking of the 'world gone mad', since when are the right wing conservatives all up for pr0n on tv, and lefties are prudes????

It's so funny listening to the twaddle regurgitated by the 'left versus right' crew these days. All it takes is their political overlords to tell them what to think, and hey presto! The left now love big pharma and the right want more sex in ads!!

Haha. You guys are priceless. So incredibly easily led.



And by the way, who do you think pays the Instagram and TikTok influencers??
 
Do you or ANYONE ELSE know why Raygun would be a "No Go-zone" I am so out of the loop that all I know is that

1. She did a horrible performance at the Olympics; and
2. She may of done dodgy stuff to get herself to the Olympics when not appropriately qualified.

I seem to be one of the minority these days that don't find anything offensive. Do your worst I say, there is literally nothing you could say or dress up as that I would be upset by.
 
Your crowd is whoever is watching, isn’t it?
But I guess if you have rented a room for a private function that those who attend are the crowd. You are not making a presentation to the staff of the venue or the public walking by who may happen to get a few seconds of access.

If we extend the crowd to any living person who is views the joke, then all privacy starts to go out the window. And since offence is taken and subjective, you may of perfectly tailored your material for the expected audience. If someone that is not part of that audience or crowd is offended then their feelings don't mean anything.

This is totally different to an event that is open to others. The players and the GWS staff would of had a basic assumption of privacy which has been broken by the venue.

I am not sure where I stand on whether or not the venue should of been able to shut the gathering down once they saw the material or jokes. I am battling between the "They own the right to do business how they please" and the "It is a private event with no reputational damage nor 'endorsement'".
 

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